Personal Thoughts on Sept 24th...
I have been trying to keep up with all your comments the past few days and I am SO appreciative to have this community of believers during this time. If you are discouraged that the rapture did not take place yesterday please do not lose hope. Jesus is coming... He has promised us that. He is in control. As one of my favorite teachers likes to say... "Things aren't falling apart, they are falling into place."
I have always thought that the time from around Sept 20th until the Day of Atonement should be a very high watch period. Even if nothing major happens by the 30th, I believe from here on out we should be on high alert. This was a sign... A sign apparently of things to soon come. I am beyond convinced that the alignment in the sky yesterday was in fact what Revelation 12:1-2 was talking about. To me and many of you that is clear. The fact we are still here doesn't change that one bit. The worst thing we could do is let our guard down and step away from The Lord and be drawn back into the cares and worries of this life (1 Thes 5:7-8). The Lord led us to this point for a reason and He will take us through it.
With that thought in mind I would like to direct you back to my article I wrote last week. Please read it (if you haven't yet) and read it again if you already have. I can tell you this, If you are discouraged know that you are not alone. Story throughout story in the Bible tells of people that looked like they were going to be let down with no way out... only to find out that shortly later that God will never let His people down. We will learn that lesson as well in His timing and in His way... I hope this thought and the article blesses you, even more now with what we have learned these last few days...
God to the Rescue! (Personal Thoughts While We Wait)
Lastly, I was eager to get to church this morning, especially for the worship songs. I knew the Lord had a something in store for me that would encourage me and fill up my tank. The song below did just that and I hope it does the same for you.... Grace and peace to you all in Lord Jesus.
The Same Power - Jeremy Camp
Ok, one more thing... I have said this before and I will say it again... This sign will humble us all one way or another. Many of us have been humbled when learning the beauty and precision of it. I believe the mockers and scoffers will be humbled by their mishandling and disregard of it. Many of us who believe in it feel humbled further at this time. But make no mistake about it... when the day comes (and it will come) when we stand before The Creator of Heaven and Earth all of us will be completely nothing. None of us will boast about anything. All of us will fall flat on our faces in complete submission... and only through a faith in Christ will we be able to stand. It serves us well to get used to that feeling now.
1 Peter 5:6-7
I have always thought that the time from around Sept 20th until the Day of Atonement should be a very high watch period. Even if nothing major happens by the 30th, I believe from here on out we should be on high alert. This was a sign... A sign apparently of things to soon come. I am beyond convinced that the alignment in the sky yesterday was in fact what Revelation 12:1-2 was talking about. To me and many of you that is clear. The fact we are still here doesn't change that one bit. The worst thing we could do is let our guard down and step away from The Lord and be drawn back into the cares and worries of this life (1 Thes 5:7-8). The Lord led us to this point for a reason and He will take us through it.
With that thought in mind I would like to direct you back to my article I wrote last week. Please read it (if you haven't yet) and read it again if you already have. I can tell you this, If you are discouraged know that you are not alone. Story throughout story in the Bible tells of people that looked like they were going to be let down with no way out... only to find out that shortly later that God will never let His people down. We will learn that lesson as well in His timing and in His way... I hope this thought and the article blesses you, even more now with what we have learned these last few days...
God to the Rescue! (Personal Thoughts While We Wait)
Lastly, I was eager to get to church this morning, especially for the worship songs. I knew the Lord had a something in store for me that would encourage me and fill up my tank. The song below did just that and I hope it does the same for you.... Grace and peace to you all in Lord Jesus.
The Same Power - Jeremy Camp
Ok, one more thing... I have said this before and I will say it again... This sign will humble us all one way or another. Many of us have been humbled when learning the beauty and precision of it. I believe the mockers and scoffers will be humbled by their mishandling and disregard of it. Many of us who believe in it feel humbled further at this time. But make no mistake about it... when the day comes (and it will come) when we stand before The Creator of Heaven and Earth all of us will be completely nothing. None of us will boast about anything. All of us will fall flat on our faces in complete submission... and only through a faith in Christ will we be able to stand. It serves us well to get used to that feeling now.
1 Peter 5:6-7
So humble yourselves under the mighty power of God, and at the right time he will lift you up in honor. Give all your worries and cares to God, for he cares about you.
Amen Brad! One cannot deny the great sign or Micah 5:3.
ReplyDeleteYesterday just before sunrise I looked to the east and caught Venus and a few stars of Leo. At dusk my wife and I were on a secluded hill away from lights and saw the moon and a few stars of Virgo. While observing these a meteor flew through the space between the moon and Jupiter (maybe the dragon taking a shot lol). We are excited that we have experienced the appearance of one of the great signs of Revelation. We were not expecting to fly yesterday but were ready just in case. I feel there is a great harvest that will occur first before we are taken out of this earth. This sign along with everything else going on now keeps us looking up!
ReplyDeleteEven though the next Feast Day to be fulfilled is the Feast of Trumpets, someone on a YouTube channel made a plausible point that with respect to the coming of our Savior to meet us in the air, all the parables Jesus used, made it clear that He was going to be late for this appointment: The 10 virgins, the servants, etc... also, after a woman gives birth, she is unclean for 7 days, etc... my perspective is that our Creator will indeed thread the needle on this appointment, so that ALL scripture is correct. Seeing that man is imperfect, we can't expect that the watchmen would have accounted for every biblical perspective in coming to a September 23 rapture date. Only after the fact, will all verses be accounted for to come to the proper date.
ReplyDeleteIf the rapture does not occur this year, then given the many convergences for this year, one plausible conclusion is that we have incorrect calendars and dates or even that Stellarium is incorrect.
Finally, our Creator is sovereign, just and merciful. We do not know the number of prayers requesting a delay in the rapture, the number of people who have repented, or any number of additional factors. All we can do is praise God that we have another day to witness, to give testimony and to share the Gospel. Even as we watch for our blessed hope, it should not ultimately matter to Christians when we are raptured because we are already saved. It seriously matters to unbelievers and the unsaved. One more day represents how many saved? Thus, we need to keep any delay (if there even is a delay) in proper perspective.
No matter what, we can know that as a result of our good watchmen, many of us have been awakened from our slumber, have repented from worldly involvements and have turned again to our first love! This has been a most beautiful revival! Keep your FAITH!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtcSm1IetfY
DeletePlease watch this. Especially the 6:50 min. mark and the 17 min. mark.
You don't know me, so I'm sorry to do this here. I woke up this morning not wanting to wake up. I wanted to stay in my dreams, because in that world, there is a clear delineation bt right and wrong, good and evil. I woke up PISSED OFF at God.
ReplyDeletePedophile rings, wars, murder, LIES...and what are WE able to do about it? Evil is just ALLOWED to run amok, and we sit as spectators, with our hope and our fear and the pain of good people everywhere. I may not deserve answers, but I was made to seek them. And the One who made us seems content to allow evil to reign while we suffer. Where is the JUSTICE?! Bring me a BATTLE I have any hope of fighting justly. Bring some HOPE, for Christ's sake!
Where is the love? Is He just tired of us?! Has He abandoned us? I'm reaching the end of my rope, here. I'm tired of hurting. How can I even enjoy my fleeting moments of blue skies when I know a LARGE part of humanity is tortured, screaming out for God to save them to no avail?
I just want it to end. All of it. There seems to be no point to this failed experiment.
BUT... finding your post helped me. Thank you for being strong when so many of us are weak.
I hear you! I have become disillusioned with this world! I'm not so much mad at God but just ready for the end! I know that when I start feeling these things, I need to find a lost person to love. But even then I find myself saying that people just don't care about God anymore! So I feel your struggle but may we continue to run the race and fight the good fight! May we be the salt of the earth while it is still around. Jesus is just waiting for people to come to Him. he doesn't want to see any perish!
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DeleteI know what you mean, JellyKid. This world has lost it's shine for me. It has come to feel like a once-beautiful mansion that has fallen into disrepair and infested with rats and cockroaches. I was really ready to be done with it. But I guess there's still work to do here.
DeleteI'm glad that today was Sunday. It was good to meet together with my church family (and no one gave me a hard time ;) ) and I really got the feeling that God hasn't abandoned us. He is still totally with us. I just want to be *with Him!*. But what can you do? Keep watching, keep waiting. He IS coming!
I pretty much have been feeling the same way. Wrung out. I mean you have these ingrate NFL players, riots, acid attacks, Christian persecution, full scale looting and unfettered hatefulness, especially in our youth. (Gosh, that makes me feel so very old when I say that!)
DeleteOf course we have some good, happening in a world, yet it seems the bad outweighs the good, today.
On a personal level, my children are all suffering, along with my grandchildren, especially my Autistic grandson, the child that owns my heart. Because of my son and his wife doing Meth, things became crazy, their marriage wrecked, full scale War of the Roses, frothing at the mouth loathing; it is brewing, about to boil over. My son has cracked, never to be the same and even worse, now, this grandchild, I basically have raised, has been taken from me by his angry, "I'll fix you all" mother! He is now living in conditions, unfavorable but she has CPS on her side, because of who she'd known and worked with, before this falling out. In other words, she keeps her job, can still act like a whore, smoke meth, wear dog collars, symbolizing how she likes to be choked during sex, allow her home to be in disarray, etc. All the while, my grandson must suffer for her passions, for she has become Satan's folly.
I could keep going on but will not drain the life out this, except to say, there's no one that needs this Rapture more. Or at the very least, it's how I feel. My world is upside down but I kept hearing "My Grace is Sufficient" and quite honestly, I'd never given that passage any thought, not once. I mean, I had to look it up and read and reread the context for which it was written and then given, to me.
Things are so bad, now mind you, I've lived a hard life; in the Ghetto, so to speak, little money, disabled for much of my life but then, these last few years, it just kept getting worse and worse. Life has literally become unbearable! And then BAM, it hit me that things are not normal nor will they be until we are Raptured.
It is reminiscent, the very Post-It Note of my life; we were told that it would be like this and The Father has instructed me to have faith and trust in Him. Faith, total, unfathomable faith. You know, the kind where you're hanging by your fingernails about to fall into a Sinkhole? Complete trust. Yea, that kind of faith...insurmountable but unquestioned!
Yet...I sure hope I can keep from giggling, when all these NFL players are in His presence? Will they "take a knee" then? Romans 14
Hey, don't give up, Aunt B! My husband and I were able to get full physical and legal custody of his son, even in CA which tends to favor the mother. Might be worth the fight!
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Aunt B I am praying for you and most of all your grandson and family too.
DeleteYou guys, that is beyond cool that you've taken the time to read, (I know you did) my comment and to respond. It is, sometimes, the hardest thing in the world to be the Matriarch and keep it together when really inside, I want to lash out. You know the ol', "I'll show em who's boss here, their too big for their britches," mentality, on my behalf. It is the final test, I do believe and your prayers are quite meaningful to me. I have COPD and Pulmonary Edema so I do not have much breath to waste, lol. Thus, I do not misspend what little is left on Lip Service. Thank you both for your comments and in turn, I will pray for you!!
DeleteI understand your frustration Jellykid. We're all gonna take a few days, stabilize our thinking with the doctrine we already know and move forward with Gods plan for our lives.
DeleteTo All Brothers and Sisters included Scott Clarke, last night, God strongly stirred my heart to search and found one of emails messages in my Gmail box.... here is directly message to you all from God Himself:
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“Things that Do Not Matter”
By Glynda Lomax on Sep 14, 2017 12:30 am
You desire to know when, and how, the end will come. You desire to know the next judgment to fall in your world, but I tell you this – when and how are not important.
What is important is if you are ready for these things. Are you ready, My children? Are you ready to see the hundreds of thousands of people that will perish when My judgments occur? Could you bear to hear the screams in hell of those who die then without Me? Why do you toil over things that do not matter when souls are at stake? When those you love do not know Me?
Spend your hours in intercession, that I may save them. Spend your hours on your face before Me, that thousands of souls may enter My Kingdom before it is too late. Do you not know that many souls who do not know Me will enter hell this day? Have compassion on those who do not have the peace you have and lay up treasures in heaven while there is yet time for you to do so. When and how the end will come to be are unimportant.
In this way, I can bless you while you are on earth and also when you come home to Me.
Matthew 6:33-34
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
Colossians 4:5-6
5 Walk in wisdom toward them that are without, redeeming the time.
6 Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man.
2 Peter 3:8-10
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Amos 5:18-20 NKJV
Delete18 Woe to you who desire the day of the Lord!
For what good is the day of the Lord to you?
It will be darkness, and not light.
19 It will be as though a man fled from a lion,
And a bear met him!
Or as though he went into the house,
Leaned his hand on the wall,
And a serpent bit him!
20 Is not the day of the Lord darkness, and not light?
Is it not very dark, with no brightness in it?
Amen brother Brad, hold fast! Rev3:3
ReplyDeleteI am a recent follower of yours and I have searched hard to find the right site that aims for the truth of God and not to puff up information. I have watched your videos and read your post. Thank you for the information that you give and I will continue to come to your site for the truth and your dedication in finding the truth. God Bless you!
ReplyDeleteOne thing that has come from all of this is a big shake up.
ReplyDeleteStarts first in the house of the Lord doesn't it? And it should.
I have had that nagging thought about the Unity of the Body for a while, and today it was heavy on my waking mind. We have not seen it yet... The 5 wise with their extra oil of faith to make it through this time, not just up to it. And we can not sell it, lest there be not enough for any...
As a friend said, "The termites came out of the wood work to chew on the believers", and so the scoffing and ridicule begins.
This reveals the heart of a man/woman with their actions and their hurtful words.
It reminds me of the Wicked Servant who says "His master delays His coming, and proceeds to beat the fellow servants, both male and female (fellow Christians), and to eat and drink (commune with) with drunkards (worldly oriented). He or she, short of repenting and getting back to the Father's will, before He comes back, will be given their portion with the hypocrites (unbelievers).
We should all not forget Christ's warning about placing stumbling blocks in front of our fellow brothers and sisters, especially the littlest ones (weakest in faith).
"It would be better for them that a millstone was placed about their neck and thrown into the sea."
7 things the Lord hates, and the 7th one is those who sow discord among the brethren.
We are seeing the beginning of a harvest here, and I look forward to the winnowing of the barley in short order. Stand firm in your faith, stand up for your fellow servants, encourage them, and comfort them. It's almost here.
Rev 3:11
Behold I come quickly. Hold fast to that which you have, so that no one may steal your crown (reward).
Not your salvation, and not His promise!
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I will love the Lord God with all my heart and mind and soul but I will not look to a specific date ever again . He will come in his own time. Maranatha!
Delete"I believe the mockers and scoffers will be humbled by their mishandling and disregard of it". Agree Brad - we can come here and agree to disagree on a number of points, but we don't have room for people who want to pour scorn on the comments that are made by people with a genuine longing for the return of the Lord. Lord have mercy on them (and us)!
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Events in sequence: First Psalm 83 and Isaiah 17, then Rapture and then Ezekiel 38 begins the Great Tribulation.
ReplyDeleteSo now that Revelation 12 has happened, follow the news about Damascus, because Israel is going to attack due threat of Iran and Hezbollah. It can happen any minute, literally!
Forget North Korea. The Bible's world is the Middle East. That simple.
Read study articles about all this from beloved late brother Jack Kelley at gracethrufaith.com. You also can download free books and ebooks about several issues, including one called "Understanding Revelation". Read it first !
Ezekiel 38 is the Gog and Magog invasion at the end of the Millennium "After the thousand Years" in Rev 20:7-8
DeleteA friend of mine recently found this blog and suggested it to me. I've been writing on the September 23rd Alignment since 2014, and I've always said that this was not the date of the Rapture. I made, and posted a very short video to quickly explain my position. Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA_nPcL8nuU&t=2s
ReplyDeleteYou lost me at the very beginning of your video. Not one person that believes in the Rev. 12 Sign, along with the hopefuls left wondering and waiting patiently for the Rapture EVER SAID, that Sept. 23 meant the end of the world. I didn't even bother to finish because if you are going to preface your video, in such a manner, it's no better, no worse than the Fake News!!
DeleteOh my soul! He lifts you above the Frey
ReplyDeleteComforting always, never far away
He hears your cries in the still lonely days
His peace settles softly in the night where you lay
Oh my spirit, don’t stop singing His praise!
Yeshua’s joy fills your heart simply always
Look up to the skies and take note of the times
Soon He is coming and you’ll share in His wine
Yeshua Ha Mashiach, My King and My God
I’ve nothing to fear from your iron rod
Like a daughter, a sister, your beloved one
I’ll rule by your side when the battle is done
Until then I wait for that precious last blast
That signals my time to join you at last!
Oh My friend, My Savior my King
That day is so near I can feel my ears ring
As if they can hear the trumpets sounding
Alarms going off all directions around me
Perhaps in the heavens it’s already begun
And the song of your coming has already been sung
And now you are standing there admiring your work
As you anxiously wait to go fetch your church
And keep us always close by your side
Dear glorious King! Please come for your bride!
Oh yes!!!!!
DeleteWell articulated, Brad! At the end of the day we will all be leveled at the foot of the cross - even the 'religious VIP's' who seem to think that they have plunged the depths of God's wisdom and understand all.... I'm so grateful for your tender, humble and God honoring response - and have learned much from you about being silent and receiving with kindness the mocking voices ... However and whenever things play out according to God's perfect time table, HE will receive ALL the glory - and we will be reminded that we are but dust. I'm grateful to be learning those lessons, at least in part.., now. Keep up the great work!! You have been a tremendous help and encouragement in my learning and faith walk- but I'm most grateful for your example of gentle humility. May God bless you with great joy as you seek to honor Him and build up His body in preparation for His soon return. May we be found watching, waiting and awake.....
ReplyDelete"...even the 'religious VIP's' who seem to think that they have plunged the depths of God's wisdom and understand all...." What a fitting description! Sadly true.
DeleteI woke up this morning confused, and for that matter still confused. We have all seen the Great Revelation 12 sign.......It says that the great red dragon went to devour her, yet she was caught up to heaven.....Everyone says its all in God's timing. I understand that but, what was birthed? Weren't we supposed to be birth, this sign clearly referenced that the tribulation would be starting, and yet here we sit...Was it he SIGN? If it wasn't then what was it, I don't know what to think, do we go thru tribulation, I have never believed that, yet here we are. What is going on??
ReplyDeleteIt is my humble opinion that it was the Church which was birthed. It's inception was 2000 ago at Pentecost. One piece of hope is the fact that in Lev. 12:2 which is all Jewish Law, and applies, even to this, "Say to the Israelites: 'A woman who becomes pregnant and gives birth to a son will be ceremonially unclean for seven days, just as she is unclean during her monthly period." And she would never set foot in the Temple until this time had passed. Then, on the 8th day, the male child is circumcised. Should we have a circumcised heart? I believe we must!
DeleteWhat if the reason for God drawing this community to the Rev12 sign and the hope for the rapture - was just that?! It was meant to be an awakening tool?... It certainly has done that for me over the past few months, and for that I am SO grateful! The result of studying and diving deeper into God's word has been tremendous - not only in my personal faith walk and intimacy with Jesus, but it's really propelled me into 'get ready' mode, and consequently has brought me to do things that I've been putting off for years... Such as getting up regularly at 4:30 for quiet time. Writing letters for friends who may be left behind. Prepared our home for those people and neighbors - with cash, emergency food, water, books, articles and roadmap tools for what's happened and what comes next... Pursued my brother in letters and sent him books that I had been putting off - and as a result saw him become a Christian. A real, living, on fire Christian!! Goodness, I've even started an instagram account (and I don't care much for social media....!!) just to have a platform to reach the unbelievers (and sleeping believers ...) in my circle (present and past...) with the power and light of God's Word. My children, in seeing my own wholehearted conviction that time is short - are in God's word daily (even my college age boy) and desire to live their young lives in a manner worthy of the Savior they confess. In short - I have been awakened, my faith has been revitalized and I now LIVE in the realm of the reality that Jesus could return ANY day. And whether He comes today or many days from now .... I wouldn't change any of that for anything!!! I pray He will keep me right here - waiting and occupying - until .... ~Grateful.
ReplyDeleteThat may be your experience, but my Bible says that something was birthed, and then he pursued Israel where she fled to the wilderness where she was protected. Is there a gap here that I am missing? I'm not understanding this and am confused as what to make of it.
DeleteI believe it was a very real and present sign! (Somebody has likened it to a freeway exit sign, which is a helpful picture - once you see the exit signs you know the end of the journey is near, and you would start getting ready accordingly - certainly wouldn't be the time to take a nap.... ) It is a sign that has come to fruition in the heavens - and God will bring it to fulfillment in reality by rapturing the church... very soon. God bless :)
DeletePraise the Lord Christ Jesus.
ReplyDeleteDon't lose your faith or stumble. The Sign was real... the SIGNS are real and as with the Revelation 12 sign and the hurricanes and earthquakes and wars and divisions amongst man.. they are all signs.
Keep your eyes on the Lord.. He is coming, let him decide when!
These alarm clocks have gone off... and we are now awake... so praise Jesus. But don't go back to sleep.. get ready and watch because he is on his way.
Keep your lamps lit and your eyes on Christ
Amen!! :)
DeleteLet's say you had to assemble something you purchased from the store. But when you think you have it complete, it does not work. So what do you do? You go back and read the manual. We need to see what instruction we glossed over in our desire to be raptured. What did we miss?
ReplyDeleteWe followed step 1. A woman clothed in the sun.... That is fulfilled.
But there are other steps:
Step 2. Another sign of the dragon... Where is it?
Step 3. The woman cries out... Has Israel cried out in pain after Step 1?. Not yet.
Step 4. The woman gives birth.
Step 5. The dragon attacks the child.
Step 6. The child is harpazo.
So we were hoping for the results of Step 6, when we have only completed Step 1.
Shalom.
I AGREE because nothing in the Revelation 12:1-5 passage necessarily REQUIRES instantaneous fulfillment of all the aspects mentioned in that passage, as we Westerners with "instant coffee," and "fast food" are culturally influenced to think. Let's just look at what the Revelation 12:1-5 is saying and not saying:
DeleteRevelation 12:1 "And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." LOOKS VERY MUCH LIKE THIS WAS INDEED FULFILLED ON September 23/24.
Revelation 12:2 "She was pregnant and was crying out in birth pains and the agony of giving birth."
Labor often occurs over several days--SO SCRIPTURE IS NOT NECESSARILY STATING THAT LABOR IS ALL ACCOMPLISHED ON THE SAME DAY OF THE GREAT SIGN.
Revelation 12:3 "And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on his heads seven diadems."
Yet another event: SCRIPTURE IS NOT STATING THAT THIS OCCURS THE SAME DAY OF THE "GREAT SIGN." But the encouraging fact is that this sequence of events is now started.
Revelation 12:4 "His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she bore her child he might devour it."
It is very possible that this event could take more than one day, or occurs on a subsequent day sequentially, SCRIPTURE IS NOT STATING THAT THE DRAGON'S TAIL SWEEPS A THIRD OF STARS ON THE SAME DAY OF THE "GREAT SIGN," though it is next in the sequence of events!
Revelation 12:5 "She gave birth to a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne,"
Theology Professor Michael Svigel is correct in his Biblical exegesis of this passage as a rapture passage, in that the second word for "child" (original Greek: teknon) refers to the collective Body of Christ because teknon is not applied to Jesus Christ (except once in Scripture by his mother when he was a little child) but teknon IS the Greek word that Apostle John used for believers in 1 John. But SCRIPTURE IS NOT NECESSARILY STATING THAT THE WOMAN GAVE BIRTH ON THE SAME DAY OF THE "GREAT SIGN."
So the very text of Revelation 12:1-5 could be like a highway sign that our home town is "5 miles ahead." We're getting VERY CLOSE. God never promised that the Great Sign and subsequent events are all going to happen the SAME DAY, but that the sign signals that this sequence of events has been triggered.
It is NOT a "fudge factor" (as some think) to consider the possibility, for example, that "as in the days of Noah" that Noah entered the ark 7 days BEFORE RAIN, or that Leviticus 25:8-9 may appropriately tell us that the Apostle Paul's "last trump" teaching for the rapture is going to be on the Day of Atonement (even though we don't know exactly if this is a Jubilee year, but God would certainly know). Both the Noah model and the Leviticus 25:8-9 model would anticipate that the "Great Sign" was a 7 day advanced notice.
SO, let's carefully separate [1] what Scripture ABSOLUTELY INFALLIBLY states from [2] our imposed added hypotheses or presuppositions or theological theories that are not part of Scripture. If we do make this careful distinction, and if the astronomy software users are correct that the alignment uniquely occurred on September 23/24 (NOTE: the "great sign" was apparently on 2-days itself--not just one day), then the great news is that the Revelation 12:1-5 sequence of events is NOW triggered, so the sequential events are absolutely going to happen over a Biblically-undefined number of days.
Professor Al, Ph.D., Th.D.
Bible professor on an undisclosed unreached mission field
I just stumbled onto this obscure video tonight by Pastor Steve Anderson which he gave almost 3 years ago in 2014 and I'm blown away by how he connects the Jubilee with the rapture. It might be the missing link to all this. This particular video clip is the 2-minute version but the full sermon (linked there) is excellent. His message was about the jubilee and its significance in practice to the Jewish people but then I thought he did an amazing job connecting it to the rapture and how the trumpet blown during the Jubilee is the rapture of the church. See for yourself, watch the 2-minute clip, and make your own judgment.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuXmWHXix8o
Oh and I should add that what blew my mind was how during the jubilee, people get back their inheritance and at the rapture, we get our freedom from bondage and get our own inheritance. WOW.
Deletehttp://www.pcahistory.org/documents/jubilee.pdf
DeleteI agree with Mr. Anderson. I've been searching out the Jubilee possibility and this pdf is well worth the read. Blessings brothers and sisters. Susanne
A prophecy straight out of the book of Revelation is now fulfilled. No need to look any further for this prophecy, it's done. I really didn't expect nothing to happen, though. When the red dragon comes along (and it will) I'm going to be a little less anxious.
ReplyDeleteGood video from JD Farag
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Stephen's speech got him stoned (Acts 7:54-60)
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51 “You stiff-necked people, uncircumcised in heart and ears, you always resist the Holy Spirit. As your fathers did, so do you. 52 Which of the prophets did your fathers not persecute? And they killed those who announced beforehand the coming of the Righteous One, whom you have now betrayed and murdered; 53 who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it .
- Acts 7:51-53
Though the absence of anything happening on 9/23 will be a faith-tester and a trigger for many to ridicule (even for self-ridicule) that doesn't mean that the constellation and planetary configuration--dubbed the Rev 12 Sign--was not still a harbinger. However it does indicate that whatever does follow in the days, weeks, or months to come won't be so obviously linked to Rev 12 that it doesn't require faith that the subsequent events aren't mere coincidence but reasons to believe. In contrast, if something big had happened on 9/23, it would have been pretty tough to explain away.
ReplyDeleteSo, once again, Belief rewuires faith rather than a sure thing.
I think the Rev 12 predictors could apologize for perhaps being overly zealous re the Sign's connection to a relatively immediate rapture, but they need not apologize (yet) for publicizing the sign as a signifier.
A similar example would be the star over Bethlehem. Was it obvious to everybody as a sign? No. It still required knowledge and faith such as what compelled the Magi to make the journey.
And, How long after Jesus' birth under the Star, did the Holy family flee to Egypt to escape Herod's wrath? Not immediately, but presumably not until some time after Jesus' circumcision, which occurred 8 days after his birth.
And how long after the sign of the Star was he acknowled as King? You could say that the Magi are still waiting.
PS probably just a coincidence but the time netween The Star of Bethlehem and Jesus' circumcision and "dedication" was 8 days and the extent of time including the Rev 12 Sign on 9/23 and the end of Yom Kippur on 9/30 is also 8 days,
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ReplyDeleteThe only thing i want to comment now is that it's amazing to see all kind of "revelations from the holy spirit" and personal never thought before scriptural explanations coming up in all kind of youtube video's form all kinds of personal channels.....it's overwelming!
I see womans who seemingly have amazing amounts of time to put forward all kinds of bible study on there youtube canal...other people who have there own youtube broadcasting too.
I'm a male form the Netherlands, europe and it amazes me that the most i see is USA people who have all kinds of explanations, first everyone was on board for 23 September, now it looks like it will be 30 September.
I will not mock of treat disrespectfull people here, but it looks like everybody now has some dreams of interpretation what must be put on the internet as soon as posible. Some people look look like they are realy into personal attention when i see there youtube channels.
I just give some examples who looks realy strange (in behaviour, appearance, articulate, expression and definately over 100 procent sure of there own understanding)
Some text i stumble over "Jazzy siebert" (the so easely using of the Holy Spirit...."Hi! I just did a little study on the Jubilee rapture theory and the Lord pointed out some amazing stuff! "....Yeah of course, you do some study and "whoop" the Holy spirit made it sure it came from Him, so you can say that....I wonder were the caution is and respect of the use of the Truth...be carefull when you make claims like that)
And then there is suddenly a person who nichnames himself "Professor Dr."suggesting what?? That he is what he claimes he is, please people....get serious!!
Then we have Dana Ashlie....numerous video's and all kind of "study's"...pfffff, to much. Please humble yourself and stop putting all kind of personal truths on the net....the same for Ahava Sarah, or Wisdom Calls.....maybe it is that we in europe are more down to earth but when i see the almost hypernervous talking of Wisdom Calls and the claims people like that do....I don't think the truth is served with that all.
The last is: Midnight Hour Oil.....all the same, for me it looks like those poeple are just loooking for attention, they are pretanting to know a lot, to know and understand the word. Use a lot of scripture, etc, etc.... But my advise is better stop making fools of yourself and stay humble..... Don't put yourself again and again in frontplace attention.
I recommend humbleness, maybe some should better stop broadcasting or just say: Oke, i'm wrong...i better quit and will be still prepare myself instead of put another video (exposing myself!) on the already overfilled internet wagon.
I think i will quit looking those (sometimes 40 minutes plus!!) studys wich in truth bring nothing then again another personal truth. I better spend time praying and stiil and patiently waiting and preparing)
Sincerely,
Patrick
As much as I agree that some people just want the attention, I sense that most of the people you mentioned just want to share what they're discovering. I'd rather they do that because then I can see for myself whether it makes sense to me or not. We're not robots or parrots here. Sure, there is a lot. But I believe God gives us discernment and it's been so much fun for me to discover all these little nuggets and puzzle pieces coming together with the help of my brothers and sisters who are digging into God's Word.
DeleteIn one of the groups I am in on FB, a friend said even though nothing happened in the physical on Sept 23, things happened in the spiritual. I had to immediately comment that indeed things DID happen in the physical...the Great Sign! I knew the Rapture would not occur because I am one of those that believes in the transformation of the remnant Bride first, then a harvest period of 40 days. So for me, the Rapture would not be until at least Nov at this point. But the transformation in the blink of an eye, may very well be in October!
ReplyDeleteWe are to keep our eyes on Israel first and foremost, and even now Trump is preparing a peace proposal to be brought to the table "in a few weeks". Once this occurs, the USA will split because Trump will have agreed to split Israel. Then shortly after that is the transformation!
I'm so greatful for the solar eclipse, then this Great Sign from Rev 12. As Pastor Paul would say, "Something Biblical is going on!!" 😀 🙏
It's obvious that "we" have not yet fully understood the meaning of the Sign, and we are still waiting to see how it will play out. However, when all is said and done, we believers will all appear before Jesus at the Bema Seat. If the subject of the Sign comes up then at all, I think the issues will be the heart attitudes that we displayed in response to the controversy we have just come through , not who was right or wrong or who guessed the truth first. I would like to commend Brad on this site and also Gary, Jeff and others on Unsealed and other sites, as well as many of their correspondents for their grace and humility. Some of the posts and comments I have read on these and other sites have reeked of a very different spirit, and this has not all been on the part of the Sign's detractors.
ReplyDeleteI wonder, has anyone such as Brad, Scottie Clark or Adam of the Parable of the Vineyard reported actual visual sighting of the Rev12 sign at dusk on the 23rd or at the 24th dawn? One of Scottie's videos implied (if I understood or recall correctly) that such should have been possible (but perhaps from Jerusalem??). Otherwise the original Greek word ὤφθη translated "appeared" in Revelation 12:1 ("And a great sign APPEARED in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars") would have to be understood in the secondary sense of ὤφθη meaning "to see with the mind, to perceive, know or to see, i.e. become acquainted with by experience, to experience" (in this case via astronomy software) instead of its primary meaning of "to see with the eyes." Either meaning of "appeared" would be valid translations, even though some skeptics falsely dismiss the Revelation 12:1 sign by claiming that the "great sign" could not be visually observed during the day. However the original Greek would allow "appeared" to be translated "perceived" as was done through astronomy software.
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I assume you mean the morning and evening of 9-23. The weather on the 23rd was clear all day in my area. I was up before dawn but saw only Leo and two of the planets in the "crown" before they became invisible at daybreak. In the evening I saw the crescent moon. Nobody would be able to see the whole physical Sign above the horizon at once because of the glare of the sun, so if this combination was the Sign of Rev 12:1, the secondary meaning of "appeared" seems more likely. I have to say, if I hadn't been aware of its significance, none of what I actually saw would have been very impressive - nothing like the eclipse, which I did see.
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