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When I started this site just over 6 months ago I was unaware of how this Rev 12 saga would play out. All I knew was the Rev12 Sign was a big deal, people like myself were hungry for more information, and the amount of hungry people would certainly increase leading up to September 23rd. All those things came true but the real reason I started this site was because I felt called to do it... I felt like I would have been disobeying God by not doing so. Basically I felt this was a task God had placed before me to walk into. I had the necessary experience, connections and margin to do it...and after enough nudges I moved forward in relative obedience.... He took it from there. My Plan My original plan was much more simple than what this site ended up being. I was planning to just share links to articles and videos that others wrote or produced. I reasoned that this would not take very much time once ...
The Lord is good. Here is another FANTASTIC article that put's things in perspective during this amazing time in Bible Prophecy. Pete has long standing relationships with many of the top prophecy teachers who came out against the Rev12 Sign. He was thus able to see clearly what was going on regarding their dismissive attitude regarding the celestial signs. This is an enlightening and ultra informative piece that needs to be read by everyone in the Bible Prophecy community. Here is an extra long excerpt: Concerning the September 23rd/Revelation 12 proponents, a predictable kneejerk-reaction came from the traditional talking heads (many of whom are respected prophecy experts). While I am appreciative of their past and even present contributions to our shrinking community, I was somewhat put-off by their apparent lack of scholarship in ‘earnestly contending’ for the truth. It’s easy to simply label someone a date-setter and move on, but becomes a little more cha...
One of the most common critiques that has been raised about the legitimacy of the Rev12 Sign is this idea that Leo has more than 9 stars. This argument is used to claim that the Rev12 Sign is false because the math is wrong and the crown of 12 stars is not accurately formed on 9-23-17. This idea has been mostly perpetrated by a very disingenuous article by Answers in Genesis in which they leave the realm of scientific apologetics and jump into the midst of eschatology (not even following the scientific method in the process, go figure). Their article has been spread far and wide across the world and even planted seeds of doubt in my friends and family. Even though it is late, I felt called to look into this claim further and address it for them, you, and even myself. What I found follows... Their biggest point is that Leo might have more than 9 stars.... what do we see when we look into that claim further? What I found even bl...
Scott Clarke just released a new video... In it he addresses all the horrible reporting being done by the "news media"... Sadly many Christian websites and organizations fell into this same trap. This is obviously a very timely video you need to check out. Description: The mainstream fake news is trying to make Christians look stupid again because of possible upcoming signs in the heavens. Here is what you should know - Christian researchers agree, the world is NOT going to end in 2017. More below! Learn about the difference between the Star of Bethlehem and the Revelation 12 Sign as they are NOT the same. Learn why no one has adequately debunked the Revelation 12 sign of September 2017. Learn why this date is so massively popular. And for the 500th time (to the haters), I am not setting a rapture date with my research. Make the distinction between the astronomy software and the Scriptures, but also realize the link between the scriptures and the alignment. It ...
Here is another spunky and informative article from our sisters at "But That's Just Me". It's called Hurricanes and High Watch and I encourage you to check it out. It's a great mix of personal thoughts, info, reason, videos, common sense , and most importantly... SCRIPTURE! Excerpt: "The end of the world is not coming on September 23rd 2017 but an alignment written about hundreds and hundreds of years ago in the book of Revelation IS going to occur in the Heavens and just like other alignments God put there that herald things of his plans such as the star of Bethlehem that the Magi followed to see the prophesied birth of the Messiah (Jesus). It is STILL a sign regardless of if you want to see it or not. A word of caution would be to make sure you are sure before you mock this sign because you may be mocking God. Being unsure of what will happen in the following days or months or years on the heels of it is understandable but mocking that this is not a si...
This one is fantastic.... amazing connections and information! Gary, Jeff and Greg have done so much for all of us. I can't thank you enough guys! From the bottom of my heart THANK YOU you for all that you have done! Here is the link to their latest: The Second Nativity | Latest from Unsealed.org Here is an excerpt from Gary's article: The mocking/scoffing frenzy, which is currently ongoing shouldn't surprise anyone. The scoffers twist what you say and put words in your mouth (just as a number of news articles are doing this week). All we've ever said is that a prophetic sign of major importance is going to occur this Saturday. To me and others it seems to point to the nearness of the rapture, but none of us have set dates, which makes the incessant "end of the world on 9/23"-talk all the more ridiculous. And when the rapture does happen, the world will definitely not end , but the scoffing inhabitants of the earth will be ...
The scoffers keep telling us to get our head out of the clouds and STUDY THE BIBLE... Ok then, here you go people, read up! (Of course if you have been following this thing for any amount of time you know we have been studying the word intensely the whole time... bet they don't let the facts get in the way of a good chance to mock and belittle.) Man-Child vs Child: A Word Study of Rev. 12:5 (Rev 12:5 KJV) "And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne." The translation "man-child" in Rev 12:5 is from the Greek "arsen huios" while the word "child" in the same verse has been translated from "teknon." Thus we have two different Greek words that have both been translated as "child." man-child = arsen huois child = teknon Why did John use two different words for "child" in this verse? A look at how the bible d...
Gary from Unsealed just released THE ARTICLE that needed to be written. Many people are waking up to the possibilities this sign presents and there is a lot of craziness going around. His article spells it out for you. Confirmations are given. Questions are answered. This one is absolutely critical for supporter and detractor alike. Read. This. Article. Here the link: The Big Picture & Questions Answered - Unsealed Here are some excerpts: Honestly, it is hard waiting, not knowing exactly how or when things are going to unfold. We have to trust the LORD with the timing. As I've said before, I am now convinced that the literal fulfillment of Revelation 12:1-2 occurs next week and to be honest, the connection of Revelation 12 to the rapture seems to be pretty clear at this point. That said, I refuse to set dates. I know exactly when this sign occurs, but I don't know exactly when we go home. and.... The second ...
I posted the following directly on our Facebook Page yesterday. Many of you have probably seen it already, but I am putting it up here for all those who don't use that platform. Thank you to everyone who left such wonderful comments below that post... it warmed my heart greatly but I can take no credit.... That was all Him. : ) A few people have asked why our brothers and sisters get upset when some prophecy professionals disparage this sign without even taking the time to look at it closely... Here is an analogy that may help you understand. Imagine that your one true love is an amazing artist. Your Love paints you a beautiful picture with layer upon layer of meaning. It is the most beautiful painting you have ever seen and it moves you to tears just thinking about the effort and planning and care that was put into creating this painting for you. Then just as you seem to fall deeper and deeper in love with The One who painted this picture, a very prestigi...
I know many of you are following the discussion going on after Jan Markell, Jack Hibbs and Billy Crone once again tried to pop the supposed Rev12 Sign bubble... They failed miserably and there has been a huge outpouring of amazingly insightful comments on those two posts which you need to catch up on.... But the purpose of this post is to also make you aware of two videos by a couple of very dear watchmen discussing this topic. These men will greatly encourage you and increase your resolve that these signs are not to be dismissed. Listen to these men of God... you are not alone in your angst, but take heart, this too is a part of God's magnificent plan! If you missed the previous articles, catch up here: Jan Markell and Jack Hibbs Address Revelation 12 (51 Comments) Personal Thoughts On Jan Markell's Program Yesterday (58 Comments) 1. Barry Scarbrough (33 Minutes) Key Bible Verse: 1 Corinthians 1:27 "But God chose what is foo...
I was responding to a comment by Lance in the previous post and it started getting way too long... so this post will be my general thoughts regarding WHY I think Jan Markell and Pastors Crone and now Hibbs are against this sign. Many of my other thoughts are in the comments section of that previous post . My view of why these prophecy leaders are against the Rev 12 Sign... In their minds they are trying to PROTECT people and the reputation of Bible prophecy. If I had to guess, the first moment they heard about this sign they made up their mind that it was bogus (likely without ever really looking at it). They failed the Proverbs 18:13 test. As soon as they saw a date...any date... they made up their mind then and there that there was no way this "sign" had merit. Once it became such a huge thing Jan scrambled to put together a segment that would put the fire out. Surely she figured she must protect us from this "date setting" fad. I had been in communica...
I am big fans of Jan Markell and Jack Hibbs... both of them have drawn me closer to the Lord through their ministries and I was blessed to meet each of them and have extended conversations with both. So I was saddened to hear that this morning they put out a show together (with Billy Crone) indicating that that they are still not on board with the Rev12 Sign. This video has very few views so far, but keep in mind Jan's show is on 700 stations across the country ...so this message will definitely get out there. Please listen to what they say and compare it with all that we have learned. Do they add any new arguments, or is it the same old thing? Are they able to convince you that we are off... or does this increase your resolve all the more? FYI: I have not listened to this fully yet and will likely add more thoughts when I am able to complete it later today. UPDATE AFTER LISTENING TO FIRST HALF: 12:30 - They play clip a from Steve Ciccolanti partially explaining Rev 12...
The Unsealed guys have been working overtime lately. We are now less than a month away from the Revelation 12 Sign and now is no time to let off the throttle. With great urgency and drive they published two more fantastic articles yesterday. You definitely need to check them both out if you haven't already.... both topics always seem to come up when discussing this sign and you would do well to absorb all of the wisdom shared in the links below so that it is at your disposal when needed. Here are excepts and links for both: 1. No One Knows The Day Or Hour Mockers inside and outside the Church are using just a handful of Scriptures at the expense of all others. They are choosing to be willfully ignorant. They are also leveling two false accusations, which tells me that their reasoning is not coming from the Holy Spirit, but from a much darker place. Link for Article 1 http://www.unsealed.org/2017/08/no-one-knows-day-or-hour....
I have often times referred people who claim that the Revelation 12 Sign is not unique to item #7 in the Celestial C Section article by Unsealed. That article is full of information, but I have wondered if this critical point about uniqueness often got missed since it was buried so far into the article. Well today Unsealed has released a new post highlighting this point! This will be a great resource...and much easier to share. Here is a excerpt and a link: At the heart of many attempts to disprove or belittle the significance of the Revelation 12 Sign is the argument that this alignment is really not anything special. This is where I feel that Richardson, Crone, McHyde, Faulkner, and others are missing the mark. The uniqueness and precision of the September alignment is its greatest strength. It's not enough that the moon and sun are near Virgo once a year. It's not enough that Jupiter passes through Virgo's womb every 11 or 12 years. Every condition in R...
If you felt like you needed to laugh (or cry) after the recent Kiononia House debunking, well this link is for you! Here is an excerpt and a link: Let those of us who long and look with childlike excitement and wonder at our Jesus’ return for us by seeking his signs do it and expound about it in peace. Don’t attack us and the sign and try to shut us down. Instead, let’s have civil conversations with each other. We will return the favor and allow those who don’t enjoy the watching for his signs to stay on that more rigid path. http://www.but-thatsjustme.com/oh-nein-diese-wieder-oh-no/
Yesterdays video posted by Koinonia House regarding the Revelation 12 Sign has generated quite the buzz! As of the writing of this, their YouTube page had 656 comments on the subject and Facebook post had 272 comments. Our posts here on this website and FB combined for another 121 comments as well! I am sure there are many many more discussions going on around the internet. The good news is that Koinonia House has responded and will be interviewing Scottie Clarke on the matter in the near future. This is excellent news! I was quite let down by the poor nature of their video which left out much information and extremely relevant scripture passages, but the fact that they are willing to bring Scott on and allow him to respond in person shows great humility. I am looking forward to this event and according to Scott they will be doing a video interview tomorrow and Ron assured him that he would give Scott "run of the floor" without ...
I have added a new page to this site. You can access the link on the home page , resources page , or directly via this link here . This new page is basically a running list of links to debunking attempts and links to the responses to those attempts. As most of you know the attempts to debunk the Revelation 12 Sign to date have been extremely superficial and very easy to disprove. Words like astrology are tossed around often... as well as comparing this sign to other signs in the past which didn't have nearly the scriptural depth nor consensus of opinion from varied researchers. Those who say the sign isn't unique are most obviously mistaken as uniqueness is one of this signs greatest strengths. Check out the new page and let me know what links I am missing. As always please let me know if you have any suggestions as my goal is to make this site as responsive and user friendly as possible. Thank you! Here is the link: https://rev12dail...