A Couple Videos To Chew On...
Here are a couple videos with information to chew on... On this day believers from across the world are lifting each other up in prayer, seeking the truth, and eagerly waiting for Christ's return together... That is a beautiful thing.
God Bless You All.
Video 1: Scott Clarke
September 24, 2017 - A More PERFECT Alignment for Revelation 12? (9 minutes)
Video 2: The Watchman's Watchman
The 8th Moedim - A Jubilee Rapture (13 minutes)
God Bless You All.
Video 1: Scott Clarke
September 24, 2017 - A More PERFECT Alignment for Revelation 12? (9 minutes)
Video 2: The Watchman's Watchman
The 8th Moedim - A Jubilee Rapture (13 minutes)
I posted this as well on Scottie's video. I'm also ThisLambWatches. I really want to hear people's thoughts on a thought I had.
ReplyDeleteI have a question. Would the taking of the bride be labeled as "work" to Elohim? Elohim doesn't permit work on the Sabbath day (today) so what if it is the next day? Him being delayed/parable of the 10 virgins. The feast of trumpets this year so happens to be on the Sabbath day, so maybe that's why He is delayed? because He doesn't work on the Sabbath? This is only of course if the taking of the bride is considered work to Him. Curious thought I just had. I would LOVE your feedback Scottie and brothers and sisters in Christ! :D
Damn good point Nadia! I didn't think about that! GOD obeys His Law for He is Perfect. For if God raptured us on a Sabbath Day that would be work according to His Law. Hmmmmm something to chew on and give hope.
DeleteI'm not sure about that one... Jesus said that He is Lord over the Sabbath too. He healed the sick on Sabbath days several times, just to get this point through to the Pharisees. Even so, (as I mentioned earlier) the rapture could happen any time now, that's my gut feeling.
Deletevery interesting! ^_^ I think that now to September 31 is a high watch time!
Delete@Nadia: look at Matthew 12:12 (compare Revelation 12:12!) / Mark 3:4 / Luke 6:9 to save lives and do good is never forbidden at any time. The pharisees never got the godly idea of Sabbath right, they just used it to burden the people (Matthew 23:4 / Luke 11:46). God works 24/7 anyway (Psalm 121:3-4). It would be fatal for our whole universe if he wouldn't... ;-)
DeleteWe have to remember he also criticized the religious leaders who said they wouldn't pull their sheep out of the well on the Sabbath. Harpazoing us means yanking us out of danger just the same!
DeleteThanks everyone for your replies. It has given me knowledge and corrected my thought i had earlier. What about the "8th moed"? i have been hearing that (if i'm correct in saying, still learning it) there is another feast day that only happens on jubilee years. i'm not sure if my information is correct or not, but i think that is what they're saying. they also speak of a trumpet being blown as well. as I've said before, i'm not 100% correct on my info as i am just now learning about it. Do you guys have any idea what I'm talking about? what are your thoughts? thanks guys! ^_^
DeleteJust saw a yt video about Leviticus 25 saying blow the last trumpet on 10th day of 7th month which falls on 9/30 - Atonement. 40 days like Jonah after eclipse. 21 days like Daniel since the 9/9 "birth" and 7 like Noah since the sign.
DeleteFrom John 5
DeleteVerses 8-12
Jesus saith unto him, Rise, take up thy bed, and walk. And immediately the man was made whole, and took up his bed, and walked: and on the same day was the sabbath.
The Jews therefore said unto him that was cured, It is the sabbath day: it is not lawful for thee to carry thy bed. He answered them, He that made me whole, the same said unto me, Take up thy bed, and walk. Then asked they him, What man is that which said unto thee, Take up thy bed, and walk?
Verses 17-18
But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
The answer is no, God would not delay the rapture from the 23rd to the 24th...
Definitive passages that settle the divide on the issue of Law vs. Grace:
John1:17
Romans 5:20
Romans 6:15
Galatians 2:21
Galatians 5:4
Nadia, you really have something! Jesus rested in the tomb the Sabbath day, He only resurrected when the first day of the week began! Glory to YHWH. Daniel
DeleteI fully agree with the watchman. In his video he correctly predicts the Sept 30th date instead of 23rd. This video has new insights, especially the next 7 days after FoT. Also, the Rev 1-2 is basically a signal or sign, leading to the rapture, which is verse 5. But interestingly, the rapture does not happen until the dragon attacks the man child (church).....or so i think. Could we be hopelessly expecting the rapture in verse 2 while God indicates clearly that its in verse 5? May be this is why the next 7 days are very important. I think we need to be constantly watching the position of Jupiter during these next few days. As it leaves virgo, the dragon (planet x???) will attack and in a moment the rapture will take place. Again, only God has the perfect timing.
DeleteNadia, there is no September 31
DeleteMay it be so! But this is really going to suck if we are wrong again......Dear GOD I so want the Rapture to happen! I want to put on Immortality and Incorruption. I want to be in Heaven, free of this world. I want freedom that no man born on Earth has every experienced here on Earth. There are so many reasons I want to leave and let me tell you guys. This afternoon after 1pm EST I lost it! Anger through the roof and sorrow through the floor. I did ask myself why the hell would Almighty God put this Great Sign in the stars and not fulfill it? While I am convinced the Great Sign is about the Rapture of the Church, it really doesn't tell us the timing. This is the real bummer....
ReplyDeleteMaybe this is a test. How many of us will continue to watch as Jesus commanded us to. Just my thoughts.
DeleteBlitz Kreig, thank you for your post. I was so raging angry and totally devastated today. I lashed out at God to the point where I really think He may be mad enough not to take me now if it did happen. I just want to know why He would display this sign so perfectly, knowing that I would hope, only to leave me here in utter despair. No human has ever hurt me like I am hurt tonight. Others are happily shrugging their shoulders, saying oh well just keep waiting. I can't wave my pain off so easily. I asked God if I am the only one who is this angry. It is somehow comforting to know I'm not.
DeleteI too was so ready to go today that I put out left behind notes around the house and even wore a shirt with a gospel verse on it so that my left behind clothes would even be a witnessing testimony after I was gone. As the hours continued on during the day I removed the notes and changed my shirt while choking back tears. I prayed asking the Lord why He didn't come today, I was immediately reminded that tomorrow is Sunday - The Lord's Day! Rev. 1:10. Then in 1 Corinthians 15:23 Paul gives the order of the resurrections as Christ the firstfruit then us at His coming, and since Christ was risen on Sunday (the Lord's Day), I have to wonder if we will be made alive with Him on the same day of the week!
DeleteI was then led to Rev. 3:10-11, where the Lord gives the church the command to persevere, and to not let anyone take our crowns!
And here we are again, Sunday afternoon, and more disappointment. More hurt. Now the new false date is next Saturday. How many people's faith will be ruined before you will STOP? We are human. Faith and hope only go so far. Surely God knows that! I had faith and hope on Saturday and now I have only anger and bitterness. I thought I was part of something bigger than me as I shared the Revelation 12 sign with as many as I could. I thought I was doing good. In reality, I was spreading falsehood and leading people away from God in their despair when He didn't SHOW UP. I have never been so angry. God set us all up for the biggest letdown of them all. He can sit up there and laugh while we are left with broken hearts. He KNEW we would look. He KNEW we would hope. If the goal was to destroy those with little faith, He did the job well. If the rapture does happen soon, I can now be counted among the sleeping because I'm done watching for this nonsense. It hurts too much.
DeleteAmen Beth! Order out of Chaos is what Scottie Clark, David Ray and the Sept 23 False Teachers spew. Why not read the bible instead? 7th Trumpet is the final Trumpet Warning and 3rd Woe! We are not there yet. www.Theresnothingnew.org/
DeleteBeth, I think the reason so many are hurt is the fact that even though everyone was trying not to "set dates" I think we all pinned our hopes to the fact that the harpazo would coincide with the Rev12 sign. So many things added up to that date, but the sign itself stands alone. Prophecy was fulfilled! Dont blame God for something that He did not say. It was the speculation of man, and it could still be soon!
DeleteDaniel Matson posted this on his Facebook page:
ReplyDelete“Happy Revelation 12 Sign Day. I know there have been some last minute positioning and changes as we all try to put the Sign in proper perspective. All of the items in the books and articles pointed to the Feast of Trumpets and the Sign of 2017 and other dates in 2024 and I still believe they are sound. I am currently thinking on what is next and will present that case when I am ready, not rushing to conclusions.”
Also another poster said:
“I have no doubts that we will be gone before Sunday morning in Jerusalem. Just like Yeshua. Same pattern.”
:)
What do you guys think of Steve's last video? I have always thoufht his timwline was spot on with its counts, but couldn't come to grips with it not being on the day of the last trump... Per what he is saying about a feast of trumpets being considered one big day, maybe it actually was all along!
ReplyDeletehttps://youtu.be/DUiWRObM8pA
They are currently still blowing trumpets and celebrating in jerusalem at this very moment. I am watching on kotel cam online - The shofar sounds really stir my Spirit and i had a nice moment with Jesus. I am still hopeful. I was sad and miserable when i realised the expected time had ‘passed’ but Jesus came to comfort me and i have been refreshed and strengthened!
Deletehttps://www.earthcam.com/world/israel/jerusalem/?cam=jerusalem It is 1:40 in Jerusalem and many people are at the wall singing, clapping and blowing a shofar
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Titus 2:13
I see them! why are they all there at nearly 2am in the morning?!? what's going on??
DeleteNadia, I do not know but they have been singing, clapping and blowing the shofar.
DeleteDays of awe? I don't really know. The weekly Sabbath is over for them, maybe?
Wow! Still a lot of action even now at...4 am? Is it always like this? I don't know.
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Hey guys- I was wondering if any of you teachers out there might chew on this thought that keeps coming to me- please tell me if in any way this would be OUT of line with scripture! When it says I Need Thess that the dead in Christ will rise first no THEN we who are still alive will be caught up to meet them in the air, has the idea been explored in the scripture that maybe that first part of things we don't SEE it all as it's happening (dead rise first). Could that be happening for the past coup,e of days already, even- and it's not quite our turn yet? I'd love to read or see you guys break that down and teach on that!
ReplyDeleteI've wondered the same thing. Why mention that something is first if we don't know or see it to recognize we're second? If dead were seen walking the streets of Jerusalem when Christ died on the cross couldn't something like that happen today?
DeleteAnnie, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 doesn't give a time span between the dead and alive rising.
DeleteI always thought it would be almost instantly after the dead was caught up but I have to wonder if all the current earthquakes have anything to do with the dead rising. Matthew 27:52-54 and Matthew 28:2
Nana
Titus 2:13
Matthew 27:51 should have been included in the post I did above
DeleteQuakes happening then and now.
Nana
Titus 2:13
May I share with you what I just viewed/ learned this morning with regard to Annie B's post?
DeleteJust after the 19 minute mark, Dr. Youssef explains. "They will come with Christ in a glorified body for they are already with him . . . but to us who are alive, they will be resurrected from the dead."
For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will GOD BRING WITH HIM. 1 Thess 4:14.
http://www.ltw.org/watch/teaching/series/until-christ-returns-living-confidently-in-turbulent-times/part-5#.WcedCH0nXN0.facebook
Would like to know what you think.
Tammy
ALSO- the western wall is BUSY right now and it's like 2 in the morning on the 24th there- trumpets blowing like crazy- is that because of the start of the Days of Awe?
ReplyDeleteHey Annie!
DeleteThat's a very good thought. I couldn't say myself if that could align with scripture or not. I'm mostly just a student of the word than a teacher. I have the live cam up right now in Jerusalem and am wondering the same thing. Why are there lots of people there at 2am?? and shofars blowing? It could be because the the days of awe, but I don't know.
A few thoughts on Watchman’s Watchman’s take on a possible Yom Kippur rapture in this Jubilee year… Perhaps 2 weeks ago Melissa of *Midnight Hour Oil* has uploaded a video about one of her dreams. In her dream her friend Rachel (representing Israel) was one week over-due in her pregnancy! She asked the brothers and sisters to help interpret this dream. That’s when I’ve heard the first time about Yom Kippur/Day of Atonement being special in every Jubilee Year, how the *last trumpet* that signals the freedom of the captives is blown on that day! Melissa made 2 other (follow-up) videos on this topic. I’m saying this with caution but it seems to me that Melissa’s dream and Watchman Watchman’s take on the exact same subject might be a confirmation(?)…
ReplyDeleteHere’s Melissa’s channel, if anyone is interested (I like her vids):
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheMNSayre/videos
(Watchman’s Watchman made a follow up video too on this topic.)
I saw that too- it is possible and I think God has some surprises in store for the world- so glad we are all continuing to look up and edifying one another all the more because our King IS coming for us soon!!!
DeleteI am so grateful for those continuing to share their thoughts/observations here. I saw Melissa's video also & it agrees with the Jubilee Year explanation. I needed that hope tonight. I am tired. Thank you all.
ReplyDeleteSomething I have been thinking today, waiting for the sound of a shofar. I may nit be going in the rapture, I was remembering of when I first started reading the bible seven years ago I was led by the Holy Spirit to start with the book of Revelation, then He sent me to Daniel before going on to Genesis.
ReplyDeleteWhen I got past the mid-trib, and realized what the wrath of Yah was going to be like, I found myself volunteering in prayer to stay behind to help the tribulation saints. Now who does that, especially a believer just finding out he has a ticket of this demon infested rock.
The 8th Moedim - A Jubilee Rapture Part II
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrH6lbYg7Rg
Nana
Titus 2:13
Jubilee
ReplyDeletehttps://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=H3104&t=KJV
nana
Titus 2:13
I am curious, did Jesus' birth fulfill a feast day? Seems important enough that it would no? I can't remember which video or articles talked about how he was born on the feast of trumpets? Wouldn't FoT be fulfilled then? Maybe I'm wrong about that but I do think the day of atonement makes more sense with it being 40 days after the eclipse. Also, the women (Virgo) could be interpreted as still with child (like the sign says/shows). In Rev 12:1-2 it says she was about to give birth, not that she was currently giving birth. When does Jupiter actually leave Virgo? Looking ahead in my SkyView app it looks like it might be the 30. Maybe this is when she gives birth? Can others please look? It also makes sense since Jesus said I will be like in the days of Noah, could we have our sign 7 days ahead to be prepared?
ReplyDeleteI feel like Scottie Clarke said in one of his videos that He was born of FoT (so of course His body would have the same birthday as the Head)
DeleteStacy
Also, weren't the spring feasts all fulfilled consecutively in the SAME calendar year? Wouldn't the fall feasts be the same? This 8th feast shown in the video above makes sense...
ReplyDeleteDear Stephanus, fulfilling the fall feasts in a row in one single year is IMO not possible because of the 7 years of tribulation that lie in between. You could have had all feasts being fulfilled in one year if there hadn't been the stoning of Stephanus (after whom you are named?) and the whole church age of 2,000 years now. All I know is that they have to be fulfilled in ORDER (one at a time and not switch). Much blessings to you! :)
DeleteJesus rose from the dead on a Sunday!! In the morning in Jerusalem, the moon is under her feet! A new day, a new beginning!
ReplyDeleteThe rapture look like it is going to occur in 2 hours at sunrise in Jerusalem. Everything look perfect in stellarium. The sun is truly under her feet, the crown rises in the east, Jesus the bright and morning star is shining!!
ReplyDeleteLove and blessings to all of our watchmen. I have a question that had never occurred to me before this night. When Jesus was asked about when the end would come and he responded that no man knows the day or hour etc . . . (the basis for FOT), then how can we look to the FOT for a rapture? He was not asked when the rapture would happen but when the end would come. The end of heaven and earth etc . . .
ReplyDeleteSomeone can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think that passage, the Olivet Discourse, has to do with the rapture at all. (As I was just informing my husband -_-) The disciples were asking about the distruction of the temple (that Jesus had just casually mentioned) and the end of the world. Those are the things he was talking about. Everyone uses that verse as a reason to not think too hard about the rapture but you're right - if you look at the context, it's not talking about that!
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"The end" that Jesus spoke of in the Olivet discourse, Matthew 24, is the "the day of the Lord", the last days, the time of Jacob's troubles, the seven years of Tribulation. Jesus says that "Heaven and Earth will pass away but His words will not pass away" (this occurs at the close of the Millennium period). Jesus uses this expressing not in reference to the judgement and destruction of His teaching at that time but as general statement of fact. The understanding of the watchman of Jesus is that the rapture of the Church will occur "before" the "day of the Lord". This year the Great Sign of Revelation 12 appears in the sky and aligns with the Feast of Trumpets (FOT) which speak of the Rapture of the Church. "Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors." - Proverbs 8:34
DeleteOne other point of interest is that the Luke account of the Olivet discourse focuses on the destruction of the Temple "before" the Day of the Lord in 70 AD, while the Matthew account focus on the destruction of the Temple which occurs at the Abomination of Desolation, at the mid-way point of the Tribulation. http://die2live.worthyofpraise.org/no-one-knows-the-day-or-the-hour-really/ Blessings
DeleteI really don't know how people can teach (or believe the teaching) that Matthew 24 does not deal with rapture. Did then nobody (neither teacher nor scholar) read verses 40-41 and what could be the reason to what they are referring to? (shaking my head...) There has been so much mistreatment been to Matth24 now, I think we should stop here. Much love!
DeleteI agree Annabel that Jesus spoke of the Rapture of the Church in Matthew 24. I have an article on my Web site die2live with the details.
DeleteFrom a poster on another site:
ReplyDelete“Add Patmos, Greece to Stellarium, (Coordinates are N 37 degrees, 18' 46.80" and E 26 degrees 32' 48.84" at 12 meters altitude for the cliffs where John likely was) set it to 9/24/2017 at 12 noon and look due east.
She's standing directly over the moon while it's in Libra. Leo the king, Virgo the woman, and Libra the judgement/throne of God all tied together in this alignment..”
Dear peacewithin, John was in the Spirit and in HEAVEN when GOD showed him all this. He didn't have to see "natural" constellations in the sky but he describes what he saw when GOD showed him all this so that it could be compared with kind of Stellarium later and discovered.
DeleteMaybe something did happen in the spiritual realm today that we don't know if? I was a little disappointed when nothing happened so I went to have a nap. Just when I was about to wake up, I had a vision and I was so freaked out that I woke up with a start and sat right up in bed. All I saw in the vision was what looked like a solar eclipse. There was a sliver of bright light all around, but instead of a white or yellowish light, it was an intense green. It looked really freaky with a horror movie feel to it. I have no idea what it means though.
ReplyDeleteI had dreams and other confirmations before that lead me to believe the Rev 12:1-2 sign today is the real deal and it is related to the rapture.
There is no rapture before tribulation... We will enter Great Tribulation through 6th Seal which you saw vision it’s there. Read this verses in Chapter 6 of Revelation.... then next to Chapter 7, God will gather us up to His Home (it is similar to rapture). Remember 1st Seal through 5th Seal are fulfilled and conituned to present... Soon, 6th Seal will begin, that will fulfilled your vision.
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DeleteYou are right that the rapture is the 6th seal. 1-5 are already open.
Recently Holy Spirit stirred my heart to search scritpure and found one.... it is what you need to know (Especially you, Scotte Clarke):
Delete“The Coming of the Son of Man”
Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
(It is directly linking to Revelation 6:12-14, It is SIXTH SEAL!)
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
(This verse 30 is directly linking to Revelation 6:15-17, its perfect Matched! Again!)
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
(This verse 31 directily linking to whole chapter 7 of Revelation. Also.)
God said we cannot escape from His Wrath shaking Heaven and Earth same time... not after August 21 and other Hurriances and Earthquakes in very small and few places.... But This Sixth Seal will go to WHOLE EARTH with Great Heavenquake and Earthquake everywhere and ALL of us will witness of His Great Wrath, while He will protect faithful and obedience believers who do not focus at raptures, focusing at end of time more than praying and witnessing to win many souls!
Forgive me, but I write you Truth.... Ask Him about this. I warn you all that There will be 3 Day Darkness whole earth that will fulfilled in Rev 6:12 and Mat 24:29 It is what God revealed me I never thought of 3 days darkness, but He said searching in scripture... I found one in Exodus 10:21-22, I NEVER thought nor remembered like that (I have short term memory) I was trembled what He revealed me, I was in Fear Him of His Wrath over earth soon!
Liz, it will fulfilled your vision. Be strong and courage with your seeking Him while ministering to people around you at hometown and where God will lead you to pray and heal them, not focus at Rapture. You dont know what day and time of Jesus’s Coming. Except His Signs through Virgo/Leo with Sun, Moon, and Planets, it is beginning, its on the way toward 6th Seal.
All of you, Readers, Study in scripture and Ask God for confirmation, not people/Scott or me. Only God Himself will answer you directly if you have child like faith not wiser with opinions nor compromises with another (without double checking with Holy Spirit who is Excellent Teacher First!).
I am praying for you all to look to God with inquiring for confirmation, etc between you and Him not through people. I bless you all with my all heart in Him.
Dude, you can scream that we're all going through the Great Tribulation until you're blue in the face but we all read the same Bible and there is enough evidence for me to believe that it's not true. But please, if you want to go through it, then expect to be disappointed. But you shouldn't be going around trying to squish everyone's hope of escaping God's wrath because it's not going to convince those of us who believe that God has not appointed us unto wrath.
DeleteOur current times and state of the world is dire but it is nothing, truly nothing compared to the unprecedented horrors of the tribulation period described in the Book of Revelation!
DeleteDear Andrew, I'm asking respectfully have you EVER thought of the biblical principle and pattern of Romans 1:16 (Jews first, Gentiles second) when reading through Matthew 24? I suppose nobody did but me?? There is so much confusion about it I cannot understand even with dear bible teacher brethren like Robert Breaker and many others.
DeleteLook, if you apply this pattern on Matth24 you will have no problem to fix pre-trib rapture in it. Because the (real) chronology is switched. Jews are adressed FIRST until verse 31 (second coming at Armageddon) but then SECOND the Gentile church is adressed from verse 32 on describing (our) endtimes scenario. The events do NOT happen in order here but the biblical pattern is considered. Much blessings to you, may the LORD open up your heart to change your view!
Last night it finally clicked that the vision has to do with a dream I had back in July. In that dream, there was a pregnant woman screaming in pain, the number 23, the time 12:02, and the word 'dark,' so I think the creepy solar eclipse vision probably points to something spiritually dark that happened behind the scenes on Sept 23. Rhonda Empson also dreamt of a date (Sept 18) that turned out to be about something that happened behind the scenes before.
DeleteAndrew, thank you for your interpretation. You might be interested why I think the Rev 12:1-2 sign has to do with the rapture. I had a few dreams and 'coincidences' after I fasted and prayed for confirmation. Last month I received a text message in a dream. It says '[The] spiritual ark is about to take off.' Not sure if the word 'the' was there. I had never heard of the term spiritual ark before so it cannot be something I dreamed up myself. In another dream, I saw a flat card-like boat which I understood was taking people to safety, and it had a pattern made out of lines on it. The boat moved diagonally to the bottom right hand corner of a board game to sit outside the border line. When I woke up, I recognize the pattern on the boat to be the Rev 12:1-2 sign. My interpretation is that the Rev 12:1-2 sign is related to the rapture because we skip over the endgame of the world and land on a safe spot outside the game. This dream was like watching a video with the camera zooming out twice to show me the big picture. Normal dreams don't do that.
Oh, I missed out one part of the pregnant woman dream. She was around the street corner so I didn't see her. It seemed that no one was around to help her, and so when screamed a second time, I went around the corner to ho help her, but instead of a woman I saw men only. They seemed related but a lot of them were standing far off and it was apparent that most of them don't know each other. These men probably represent Jews around the world today. So the spiritually dark thing behind the scenes could be related to Jews and the nation of Israel today. Let's pray for them!
DeleteAnother dream that I'm not sure is related or not is about Satan and DNA. In the dream, I saw a long thin ribbon drifting down in the air, being carried about in the breeze. Somehow I expected it to be Satan and was surprised it wasn't an angry, voracious dragon. Then as if in a video, the word DNA appeared in large font in the middle of the screen, then I woke up.
Andrew Winfield -
DeleteThe coming of the Son of Man is a separate and distinct event from the Rapture. Please examine again Matthew 24 from a Jewish perspective to include (1) the Jews being hated by all nations. All one needs to do is look at the voting bloc of the United Nations. (2) The Jews will encounter false prophets and messiahs. Old Testament prophets weren't given to the NT Church. The NT Church, while some do, most do not call Jesus the Messiah. We call Him our LORD and Saviour or Jesus Christ. One need only read the NT epistles to know this. I don't recall the Apostle Paul or any of the NT writers referring to Jesus with the title of Messiah. Both titles "false prophets" and "false messiahs" will be correctly understood by the Jews. (3) His Jewish disciples came unto Him "privately". Jesus did not share this information with a mixed Jewish/ Gentile audience.
Please let me interject: YES, we are hearing of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. Yes, nation is rising against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and yes, there are now famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. Yes, all these are the beginning of sorrows.
In concluding:
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
When the Son of Man comes in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory, He sends His angels with a great SOUND OF A TRUMPET and the ANGELS GATHER together His elect from the four winds (remnant who have been scattered due to affliction and the escaping the fury of the dragon).
When Christ comes in the air for His own (the rapture) the Lord HIMSELF DESCENDS from heaven with a shout, with the VOICE OF THE ARCHANGEL, and WITH THE TRUMP OF GOD . . . and we are CAUGHT UP to meet the Lord IN THE AIR.
I love Scottie Clark's jingle about eliminating problems with things are kept in their proper context. In fact, I love Scottie Clark.
Tammy
Restating from previous post: "I don't recall the Apostle Paul or any of the NT writers referring to Jesus with the title of Messiah".
DeleteHebrew, which is one of the country's two official languages, is the primary language of Israel, and almost the entire population speaks it either as native speakers or proficiently as a second language. Its standard form, known as Modern Hebrew, is the main language used for communication.
The Jewish people will understand YAHUSHA HAMASHIACH, YAHUAH, Son of ELOHIYM, etc. In other words, Matt 24 is primarily for the Jewish people who will guard the commandments of YAHUAH, and have the testimony of YAHUSHA HAMASHIACH (Rev12:17).
In closing, again, Matt 24:12 - And because the transgression of the Torah shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
Once, again, The Torah, the Temple, the Tribulation - the Jewish Remnant, the Jewish Remnant, the Jewish Remnant.
I think we are in the beginning of sorrows too.
DeleteAndrew, I used to believe in a pre-wrath rapture but changed to pre-trib last year after getting a better understanding of the Bible, types and patterns, and Jewish customs and idioms.
Yes, there will be believers during the tribulation, but these are people who come to faith after the rapture. The great majority of them will have to prove they are faithful unto death by being martyred. If all faithful believers today will have to go through that, then where is the blessed hope? Also, Noah and Lot were taken to safety before judgment came. Wouldn't you expect the same for true believers today whose sins have already been washed by the precious blood of Christ?
Please take the time to consider the pre-trib arguments and see if they make sense to you. There are a number of videos on YouTube. Can anyone suggest one or two for Andrew?
We have stated all along that our faith was in Christ, not our ability to interpret the scriptures and the stars. We should all use this as an opportunity to surrender to our savior one more time. In the days, weeks, months and years(GOD I hope not) ahead we should reexamine the scriptures and not grow weary. We have oil for our lamps, we will be ready to hear our Saviors call.
ReplyDeleteRemember how the sheep were scattered; we graze in the pasture of grace. GOD is still on his throne and will fulfill his word in his timing. I do not regret a moment of search his word or anticipating HIS arrival. I count it all joy. I am proud of you all.
If I this was Facebook I would like your post :). In reexamining the scriptures, I realized that the sign of the dragon also needs to appear before the birth of the child. Rev 12:4 says the dragon stood in FRONT of the woman ready to devour the child the moment he was born. Indicating the dragon is there before the birth. Keep your eye on the sky people for whatever this dragon sign could be, possibly a comet or Meteor? Either way it will be in front of Virgo, your guess is as good as mine which direction is in front though.
DeleteStephanie,
DeleteIt is the constellation Darco that is already at the feet of Virgo, in the right position. (After this Sunday, the sign will start to "disintegrate" and it won't be like that again!)
Ferdinand, I guess many have studied the scriptures right along this Rev12-sign so much in-depth like they never did before... So in fact discovering the sign helped more to wake up and strenghten the Body of Christ such as even to help to save more souls than "ordinary" pulpit preaching would have done now. Gods preaching is ever the best in due season! HALLELUJAH!
DeleteI don’t know how true it is but on youtube this morning insaw that there was an unexpected meteor shower yesterday
DeleteThere goes sabbath dawn...
ReplyDeleteTo All Brothers and Sisters, God strongly stirred my heart to search and found one of emails messages in my Gmail box.... here is directly message from God Himself:
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“Things that Do Not Matter”
By Glynda Lomax on Sep 14, 2017 12:30 am
You desire to know when, and how, the end will come. You desire to know the next judgment to fall in your world, but I tell you this – when and how are not important.
What is important is if you are ready for these things. Are you ready, My children? Are you ready to see the hundreds of thousands of people that will perish when My judgments occur? Could you bear to hear the screams in hell of those who die then without Me? Why do you toil over things that do not matter when souls are at stake? When those you love do not know Me?
Spend your hours in intercession, that I may save them. Spend your hours on your face before Me, that thousands of souls may enter My Kingdom before it is too late. Do you not know that many souls who do not know Me will enter hell this day? Have compassion on those who do not have the peace you have and lay up treasures in heaven while there is yet time for you to do so. When and how the end will come to be are unimportant.
In this way, I can bless you while you are on earth and also when you come home to Me.
Matthew 6:33-34
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
Colossians 4:5-6
5 Walk in wisdom toward them that are without, redeeming the time.
6 Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man.
2 Peter 3:8-10
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
All that the Father has given to the Son WILL come. We are detrimentally apprehensive to understand and embrace the following: It is GOD the Holy Spirit's responsibility to draw men/ women unto the Father. We are to be the mouthpieces of the message. If the Spirit of GOD does not draw a person unto GOD the Father for salvation, that person will not come to GOD regardless. We cannot make dead men/ women live.
DeleteHave we considered that the remainder of the "pre-rapture time", especially in light of the Total Solar Eclipse is 1 Thessalonians 2:16, “To fill up their sins alway; for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.”
GOD will ensure that those who are His will be saved, both now (pre-rapture) and then (post-rapture) until the time of Matt 24:14 which corresponds with Rev 14:6-7.
Just BE! Be led by the Spirit. Speak when led to speak. Do when and what we are led to do. Trust GOD with the results.
It concerns me when I read Do, Do, Do when our LORD and Saviour has done all. It concerns me when I hear those insistent upon enduring to the end of the tribulation period, whether one-half or the whole enchilada. It is concerning because I question whether that person has entered into the rest of GOD, Hebrews 4:10. Has there been an entering in or does one continue to "work" in order to earn?
2 Peter 3:9 is absolutely correct: The LORD is NOT WILLING and because it IS NOT HIS WILL, those who are to come to repentance will believe and will not perish. Those who do not believe will perish.
Luke 13:3 To this He replied, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans, because they suffered this fate? No, I tell you. But unless you repent, you too will all perish or those eighteen who were killed when the tower of Siloam collapsed on them: Do you think that they were more sinful than all the others living in Jerusalem?…
The best "thing" we can do during this time as we continue to hold fast to our profession of faith is to pray that our faith and the faith of our brothers and sisters FAILS NOT. How are we instructed to ensure that our faith fails not?: - Hebrews 12:12-15. "Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of GOD; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled (v15).
Another thing to consider if we look at 2017 The Feast of Trumpets as being Joel 2:15-16. That little P67 comet next to the moon, has "gates" on it that are named after scientist that worked on the Rosetta project and died of cancer. It was discovered 9/20/69, but carries a 1967 date(P67). I have not figured that one out yet. It also has O2 on it which is atomic number 8 and a bit strange for a comet without green trees to produce it. Perhaps we should begin to work on a 9/30 day of Yom Kippur perspective. The order has always bothered me about that date. Seems out of order, but maybe we can find something.
ReplyDeleteA word of encouragement from Scripture:
ReplyDelete"And now the prize awaits me--the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will give me on the day of his return. And the prize is not just for me but for all who eagerly look forward to his appearing." 2 Timothy 4:8
Don't give up brothers and sisters, we're getting close...
Amen!
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ReplyDeleteCan someone please explain the second sign of revelations 12 verse three about the dragon? If that is also a sign in heaven...should we not also be able to "see" it? What is it?
The dragon was never a part of this September 'prophesy' which is why many (rightly) disregarded this whole thing. The other reason this was never a true prophesy is because rev 12 takes place mid-tribulation, which has not even started yet. The whole notion of us being born into heaven (as Scott Clarke boldly said God revealed this to him) is wrong. Jesus said we must be born again while still on this earth, John baptized with water, Jesus baptizes with Spirit and fire, this happens while on earth, our old man passes away and we become a new creature upon salvation.
DeleteYou may want to re-think this. The dragon on two levels is the causation for the current increase of weather phenomenon which have been described as "unprecedented, Biblical, apocalyptic, never-before-seen." It will also be the causation for the then unprecedented natural disasters during the tribulation period.
DeleteYou may want to re-visit Scottie's teaching with the intent to better understand just what it was that he said. The Holy Spirit is the deposit/ down payment/ earnest money of that which is to come, which we will inherit when we are united with the Head of the Body.
While here, it is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. When there, our faith will become sight.
Dear Andrea please just check out YouTube channel "Expitaly" and your question might already be answered... MARANATHA!
DeleteThe sign was never going to happen on the FOT - the moon would need to be much closer to the sun for that the happen (not under the woman's feet while the sun is at her shoulder). The angles of reflection from the sun to moon to earth just don't permit a new moon to occur with that particular alignment. As we indeed saw - the sign occurred on the third day of the lunar cycle. This was just a sign that the rapture will indeed happen but not until the Jubilee (Sept 30th 2017). This means we have seven days between the sign and the event - just like Noah had to wait inside the ark for seven days before the rain started - we have to wait seven days until the rapture. Leviticus 25:8-12 describes the jubilee and it should be celebrated this year as it's fifty years since Jerusalem was liberated. Jubilee celebrations took place last year in Israel but they were a year early in their celebrations according the instructions given in Leviticus 25:8-12. Forty-nine full years (using the religious Hebrew calender - From Nissan to Adar) have elapsed since 1967 and we are now in Tishrei the seventh month. The Jubilee should be celebrated on the tenth day of this month - which also happens to be the day of atonement. Lev 29:5 "Then sound loud blasts on the ram’s horn on the tenth day of the seventh month, the Day of Atonement." This means Jubilee trumpet blasts will be heard this year on 30th Sept - if not from earth then certainly from heaven! 1 Cor 15:52b "The dead shall be raised imperishable and we shall be changed." This doesn't mean anyone was wrong about the 23rd Sept date - it was the sign - now we just save as many as we can in this last week and remain steadfast. God bless.
ReplyDeleteSorry, I wanted to add add a little more - the FOT will still be fulfilled - but by the second coming of Jesus, not the rapture. See Joel 2:1 "Blow the trumpet in Zion, And sound an alarm in My holy mountain! Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble; For the day of the Lord is coming, For it is at hand..." This sounds more like the second coming than the rapture. I believe the three fall feasts will all be fulfilled in a single month at the second coming of Christ - much like the first three spring feasts were fulfilled in a single month at his first coming. A Jubilee rapture also makes more sense when you consider 30th Sept will be 40 days from the 21st Aug eclipse (think of 40 days and Ninevah will be destroyed - a wicked generation will be given no sign except the sign of Jonah - and there was an Assyrian total solar eclipse just before Ninevah repented). Also 30th Sept is 21 days after Jupiter exited the womb of Virgo (9th Sept.) This corresponds to the 21 days Michael fought with the Prince of Persia in Daniel - Look at constellation below Virgo which depicts a man (Ophiuchus- 'serpent bearer') wrestling with a snake (serpens) just like Michael wrestling with satan - this depicts the great war in heaven that is mentioned in Rev 12:7. The snake is even wearing a crown with seven stars - the constellation of Corona Borealis - which is literally a crown of seven stars - just like the red dragon of revelation 12. Saturn is also in Ophiuchus right now - at the feet of the woman - waiting to devour her child. Saturn is the name of a Roman God which corresponds to the Greek god Cronus (the two cultures have similar mythology) - Cronus was the ancient god that devoured babies! Saturn like the rest of the planets moves around the ecliptic and so is only in Ophiuchus for a very short period. It is amazing how God has written this story in the stars! So in summary - there are 8 moedim, not seven - the eighth is Jubilee and also falls on the day of atonement but only once every fifty years - there has been no reason to celebrate it for the last 2000 years since Jerusalem was inhabited by the gentiles - but now there is a very significant reason to celebrate it - with the rapture!
DeleteJust to reiterate that I absolutely still believe the Sept 23 sign was legit and is pointing us to the rapture happening at Jubilee on 30 Sept 2017. Here's a link to a video I made to explain what I wrote about above. Hope you find it encouraging. God bless everyone. Look up!
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXYs5N9IZcY
Awesome Daniel! Ill take a look at ur vid. Also, I made a little study of the Jubilee rapture theory and I was floored by what i found. Please take a look and let me know what you think. https://youtu.be/As8UlQ9xSUc
DeleteDaniel yes yes and more yes call me 989-750-5005
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ReplyDeleteGuys!! This was my biblegateway daily verse for today!!
ReplyDelete“Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward. For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.”
Hebrews 10:35-36 KJV
The sign on the 23rd was legit in my opinion. A male child was born according to the sign. Now scripture tells the male child is unclean for seven days. On the eighth day the child would be brought to the temple and circumcised. Stay watching, stay strong, and stay focused on the Lord. See you all in the air. Shalom
ReplyDeleteIsn’t it the woman that is unclean 7 days rather than the child?
Deletepatat7,
DeleteYes, the woman is the unclean one. To me it seems a more fitting intrepretation that the 7 years of Tribulation represents the "uncleaness" in the case of Israel.
As others mentioned, perhaps these 7 days leading up to the 30th of September parallels the 7 days waiting period of Noah and his family in the ark.
DeleteYes, the woman is unclean. I meant to say woman and I apologize. Leviticus 12:2.
DeleteI slept hard last night, so weary from last few days but I awoke with the question of "what was going on in the upper room?" They all continued in one accord in prayer and supplication waiting for something miraculous they knew would occur not many days hence. And it certainly did occur. And just a side note... in Matt. 24:31, when the angels are sent out to gather the elect, they are gathered from one end of HEAVEN to the other, not from one end of earth to the other. Kind of leads me to think it's because that's where we are gonna be. I truly believe the great eclipse, the great sign are preparations for the rapture not many days hence. I also feel the tares/hypocrites will be revealing themselves. Love to all the Body as we watch, wait and pray in one accord. Maranatha!
ReplyDeleteConsider this dear brothers and sisters: Rapture & Resurrection on Sunday, Third Day, Same as Christ… – The Lord Is With Us
ReplyDeletehttps://thelordiswithus.com/2017/09/23/rapture-resurrection-on-sunday-same-as-christ/
Unbelievable. The sign comes and goes and all the False Prophets do is alter their interpretation. Read the bible folks, 7th Trumpet (1 Cor 15:52; 1 Thess 4:17) is the last Trumpet Warning; the 3rd and final Woe ! in Scripture which corresponds with Rev 18:19KJV. www.Theresnothingnew.org/
ReplyDeleteMaranatha!
DeleteThank you so much for all of your research and time. In my opinion, only revelation 12 Verse 1 has been fulfilled. The rest of the verses 2-5 are yet future. We do not know which day they will occur.
DeleteGood video from JD Farag
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gIA2GIs6KQ&t=2s