September 24th - A More Perfect Alignment?

The picture above is the view from Jerusalem on the morning of September 24th.  This was first shown on Unsealed.org in a post which you can see here. Notice the crown of 12 stars.  Notice the familular position of the Sun and Jupiter.  All the elements of the Rev 12 Sign are still in place, essentially just as they were a day earlier on the 23rd.  The only element that noticeably moved is the Moon.  It has moved away from her feet...but now, when it rises above the horizon, it is truly UNDER the feet of the woman,  just as described in Rev 12:1.  Again, on the 23rd the Moon is under her feet from our perspective, but it happens when she is laying down on her side as we see in most of the images of the alignment.  But as shown above, she is now standing from our perspective, with the moon under the bottoms of her feet!  This is more literal as we generally think of something being under our feet when we are in a vertical position.   The September 23rd alignment surely fits, but this one seems like it could be even more literal! 

Also, we know the woman is in labor.  So think about this.... When a woman is in labor, she is laying on her back or side... much like the familiar position of Virgo on the 23rd when the moon comes closest to her feet.  But we see here on the 24th, that just after sunrise the moon is now truly under the bottoms of her feet!  So with that in mind, let me tell you what first came to mind when I saw this...

I have been at my wife's side for the births of all our children.  I know the drill pretty well as those were some of the greatest days of my life.  I distinctly remember that after the births she was told to walk... especially soon when she didn't have any anesthesia in her system.  She was hungry...  She needed to move...  She was told to STAND UP! 

So just as the woman in this sign was laying down on the 23rd with the Moon below her feet, could it be that on the 24th, potentially after giving birth to the male child, she stands up, now with the moon literally under the bottom of her feet?  Could this actually be the day Rev 12:1-2 is pointing to?

Here is another thought that occurred to me which would be good to remember if the Rapture does not occur on or before the 23rd.  The alignment above is just after sunrise on a Sunday. Maybe this is the day when the SON (male child/ body of Christ) will RISE to our eternal home?  Could this truly be SON day??   Maybe that amazing moment will happen early enough so that all those left behind could flood into extra seats at church made vacant by the rapture... perhaps even in time for the 10:30 am service! : )

I find this info very interesting.  Again, all credit for this find goes to my friend Gary at Unsealed.org.  He first made me aware of this potentially more perfect alignment and here is the link to his article which you must check out:
http://www.unsealed.org/2017/08/could-we-have-wrong-day.html

September 23rd
In closing, it is true the moon is closer to the feet of  the woman on the 23rd, so in no way am I dismissing that day as the fulfillment.  It would obviously be much closer to the Feast of Trumpets and the potential "Last Trump" at that time.  But the 24th looks valid to me as well due to the location of the feet and position of the woman as seen in the sky from Jerusalem on that Sunday morning.  It would not be my number one choice, but it is worth being aware of.  Even if the rapture is directly linked to this sign we are still in a position when we don't know the exact day... which leads me to the following question...
We may not know the day nor hour, but could we know the weekend??
Perhaps all those mockers saying , "Let's wait until the 24th to talk"  are actually onto something.  Could God be using their mocking words to point to His amazing purposes similar to how God used Caiaphas in John 11:50-52? 

Keep in mind that from my point of view the Revelation 12 Sign is fulfilled even if the rapture doesn't happen when many of us think it will.  This is a SIGN after all.  Quite often signs are located right at the location of the action (like a Stop Sign), sometimes they are before the action (like an Exit 1 Mile Ahead Sign). This is just another example of how God's ways are above our ways (Isaiah 55:8-9) so we should not be 1000% dogmatic about this before it's ultimate fulfillment.  Hoping this encourages you all today... Again, great find Gary!!

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  1. I have always been in hopes that I could be in church when it happens. I don't want my car flying down the road and kill someone.

    God has really gifted you and Gary with insight! Good Job Gary!

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    1. Thanks Matthew. I will take any day.... Friday, Saturday, Sunday... well you know what I mean. : ) I can see what you are saying, during a worship song at church would be a little extra amazing!!

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    2. Dear Matthew your concern is probably the reason why God commanded Feast of Trumpets to be a day off work. ;-) Leviticus 23:25 Stay blessed!

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    3. What about when your sitting on the crapper mid poo!

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    4. James, Just be glad that it will be left behind! Err not your behind.

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    5. Annabel, thank you for reminding me about that, I think I will just take vacation the 21-24th! Only 2 days paid time off.

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    6. I think you will have enough time to at least park your car---Jesus was on earth in his resurrected body for 40 days; our new bodies will be similar-- 'we will be like him because we will see him as he is.'

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    7. Oh wow...that's a interesting thought. We could be changed in a twinkling of an eye into our incorruptible glorified bodies and stick around awhile before we are caught up.

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  2. Jesus hates Nicolaitane Doctrine (Rev 2:6;15) because Churches elevate a Clergy above the Laity (Nico-Conquer + Laity). An example of Church Lies is Good Friday at Even until First Light Sunday in no way fills the requirement for Jesus to rise 3 days after being placed in the Sephulchre. Constantine the Great placed Easter on a Sunday; Jesus however was Crucified on Passover Eve (Abib 14), placed in the Sephuchre on Feast of Unleavened Bread (Abib 15) and rose on Feast of First Fruits (Abib 17)

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  3. Dear Brad my beloved brother, the true date for the sign itself is not really relevant. Please always consider 1 Corinthians 15:52 tied to 1st resurrection and rapture date - it MUST be happening on a Feast of Trumpets exactly. Not on Rev12-sign fulfillment. Rev12 only marks the YEAR which obviously is 2017 then. FoT marks the exact DAY (and day time, always Jerusalem time on sunset - no Western time zone) so it will be around 21st September this year. No matter when the heavenly sign is in full completion, be it Sunday or not. Not relevant here. Its all about a HEBREW calendar which is Gods only. MARANATHA! 50 days and counting... :)

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    1. Annabel, thank you for your comments as always! Yes.... perhaps the Rapture will be prior to the sign!! I would not rule that out one bit!! Many link Isaiah 66:7 to this view. Perhaps the 1 Corinthians 15:52 is fulfilled on a Thursday, then the Rev 12 Sign comes into full alignment a few days later.... we shall see. I do not know the timing, I only trust that what is in the Scriptures to be 100% true and it will be fulfilled just as it says. Our interpretations will vary slightly, but I believe if we work together like the Body of Christ says we be the most awake and watchful for these things.....whether the rapture happens before, during, or after 9-23-17. After all... we are not in darkness (1 Thes 5:4) and God has brought us here to work together as His BODY!!

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    2. Amen, working together as His Body on a unverse sized puzzle is so fun!

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    3. Annabel, with all due respect, maybe we should turn down the dogma-meter a degree or two. I have become convinced from my own study of Scripture and of history that the case for the Rapture occurring on Rosh Hashanah is not quite the lock many seem to think.

      Sure, we all hope this Raptashanah idea turns out to be right--I know I sure do. But the cold, hard truth is that 1 Corinthians 15:52 doesn't necessarily mean exactly what many think it means.

      Just my two shekels.

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    4. Brad - I think you've noticed something. I have seen others notice it as well; there are places in the Bible where signs follow events. Matthew 2:1 (AFTER Jesus was born...Magi from the East came to Jerusalem). Possibly by a fairly large number of days. I don't think we can even guess within 30-60 days.

      Annabel - The trumpet does not have to be Man's to blow. In fact, I believe it is God's to blow this time. He may blow a trumpet whensoever He deems fit.

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    5. Thanks Zach. Matthew 2:1-2 is a great precedent for what we are doing. The thing is this... The Magi saw a series of signs leading up to that point. Remember, they were in Babylon (I think) just looking up and studying Daniel until on of them... perhaps the great great great great......... grandpa of Lu or Scottie looked up and noticed the sign. It so convinced them that this was it that they set out across the desert for months. So the sign did not follow the event. I believe it likely started on the day He was born, then continued guiding them until the day they found him....perhaps up to a year later or so. Point is, in that instance, the sign was seen likely on the event itself, which is why they were arrived to worship an infant rather than the a newborn baby (like all the nativity scenes show). Assuming you have seen The Bethlehem Star info by Rick Larson, but if not he has a good website and video on this....some of his comments on Rev 12 are off, but still well worth watching.

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    6. As for signs and their proximity to events...that thought has been bouncing around my mind for quite a few weeks. Are most signs located AT the thing they are pointing to, or BEFORE the thing they are pointing to. Drive down any road, look at each sign you see and ask yourself the question. I did a 100 sign sample on a recent road trip and arrived at 75 AT's, 25 BEFORE's.

      Not a biblical study, but a few people I respect lean heavily toward the idea that this is just a sign of things to come. Pointing ahead at a soon coming event. Makes sense, and the first road signs that pop into my head are like Omaha - 25 miles, or Exit 1/2 Mile. But as I drove it was clear that most signs are placed right at the point they are relevant. The edge of a city limits, most Speed Limits signs, Street Signs, etc. Check it out for yourself and report back... would like more input before doing a post on such a subjective topic!

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    7. Wondering if what it is pointing to is the time of Jacobs trouble. Remember the half hour of silence of seal 7? I'm wondering if that represents the days of awe between fot and yk. I see all 7 seals opening the day we go, with perhaps trumpet 1 on Yom Kippur? Giving a 7 day warning. In the days of awe tradition, those saved on Feast of trumpets were saved, the unsaved were unsaved but there was this group of undecideds that were given a chance to repent. I wonder if the 144,000 Hebrews will be sealed in that timeframe?
      www.redmoonrapture.wordpress.com

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    8. @Greg L. dear brother so what is your "hard could truth" about 1 Corinthians 15:52 then if Paul even confirms it in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 and right away some verses later in 1 Thessalonians 5:1 because everybody KNEW? For my part I do believe God ALWAYS means what He says. I'm not dogmatic if He isn't. But if He is plain-talking we should believe it.

      @Zach dear brother I know that the FoT isn't celebrated anymore by men but it's nevertheless part of Gods eternal calendar yet. If the trumpets are not blown by men like it was in ancient Israel the godly clock works "AS IF" they were. Or what else could e.g. the American eclipse mean just prophetically representing the exact 'month of Elul' 30 days pointing to 9/21? I am very convinced of this because these were the traditions around the ancient FoT celebrations. Why else should Paul REVEAL this to all of us in the NT? Certainly not to just GUESS around. ;-)

      The "gathering" and the "shouting" is definitely tied to FoT in the bible and not to the Rev12-sign fulfilled (which I do understand as a marker for the beginning of tribulation denomination). Why not believe what God says about it?

      @Prairie Girl dear sister there's NO "second chance believer" going into tribulation because of 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 please consider. These are the 'foolish virgins' from the church age who will NOT enter the wedding but NEVER will after it has started. We may not mix church believers with tribulation saints, these are 2 different groups. The TS will hear another gospel of judgement please note Revelation 14:6-7 here. You may be right about the 144,000 here until Yom Kippur 10 days after but this is when we will be already gone then.

      Much love and blessings to all of you!

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    9. @Annabel , how would you differentiate between the foolish virgins and the wise virgins? I ask this because at times I feel as if I may be one of the foolish virgins.

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    10. On a Jubilee Year, the New Year is moved to Yom Kippur as stated in Lev. 25:8

      And thou shalt count seven sabbaths of years, seven times seven years; so that the days of the seven sabbaths of years be unto thee forty-nine years.

      9 Then shalt thou cause the loud sound of the trumpet to go forth in the seventh month, on the tenth of the month; on the day of atonement shall ye cause the trumpet to go forth throughout your land.

      10 And ye shall hallow the year of the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty in the land unto all the inhabitants thereof; a [year of] jubilee shall it be unto you, and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family;

      11 a year of jubilee shall that fiftieth year be unto you: ye shall not sow, neither reap its aftergrowth, nor gather [the fruit of] its undressed vines.

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    11. Scripture interprets scripture. Virgins are Israel- As seen in Rev 14: 3,4. So @Steve - I'd venture to say- you're no virgin.....

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  4. Thanks for posting this brother. You added some great insight!

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  5. So no wonder we won't know the day or the time....

    Three Dates at the Same Time
    Every day between 10:00 and 11:59 UTC, three different dates on the calendar are in use at the same time on Earth. For example, our Time Zone Converter shows:

    At 10:30 UTC on May 2, it is
    23:30 (11.30 pm) on May 1 in American Samoa (UTC−11),
    06:30 (6:30 am) on May 2 in New York (UTC-5), and
    00:30 (0:30 am) on May 3 in Kiritimati (UTC+14).

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    1. Dear friend such as Rev12-sign date is calculated only from JERUSALEM location and view in Stellarium we must consider Gods clockwork always counting from JERUSALEM time. At FoT sunset 'twinkling of an eye' 1 Corinthians 15:52 seen from JERUSALEM the clock is ticking. That's why the event is described in a day and night scene in Luke 17:34-36 because it's happening GLOBALLY but the clue to the clockwork is always JERUSALEM. Much blessings to you!

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  6. Remember in the old days when there was delivery problems, the woman would stand up while giving birth and the midwife catches the baby before it hits the ground.

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    1. there's a bible verse about that... let me see if I can find it...

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    2. Hosea 13:13!!! Contrast that with Isaiah 66:9!

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    3. Dear Brad, great insight with Hosea 13:13 thank you!!! Ephraim always is a picture for the unbelieving nations too but he is the "unwise son" of Israel in first place of course. Please note verse 12: "his iniquity IS BOUND UP" reminds me of 'binding and loosing' promise in Matthew 16:19 and Matthew 18:18 what God didn't loose until then (= forgive sin during church age, come to Christ as a believer) that will be bound and stored up until tribulation period and judgement.

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    4. Ephraim...is this not Edom? Did they not become Rome/Vatican? Have they not manipulated, conspired against Israel/world ever sense?

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    5. Edom is Rome after it fled to Egypt, then to Turkey, then to Rome. Esau was Edom.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edom

      Ephraim never lived in Edom.
      Ephraim is the Tribe of Joseph, he gave his tribe to Ephraim. That tribe was in Syria. They were part of the lost sheep. Jesus even command them to go preach to the Jews in Damascus.

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    6. So my point is, when they say that they are killing Christians in Syria, that really means, they are killing of Jewish Christians from the tribe of Ephraim.

      [Isa 17:3 KJV] 3 The fortress also shall cease from Ephraim, and the kingdom from Damascus, and the remnant of Syria: they shall be as the glory of the children of Israel, saith the LORD of hosts.

      Ephraim is the "Glory" of Israel. They are "Saved". Why else would they be in Glory?

      Then it goes up to the blood line:
      [Isa 17:4 KJV] 4 And in that day it shall come to pass, [that] the glory of Jacob shall be made thin, and the fatness of his flesh shall wax lean.

      Ephraim is the "Glory" of Jacob/Israel, and they be made thin (Killed Off).

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  7. I really appreciate your effort and the 24th could very well be significant... However I think the woman lying prone with the moon under her feet is the more accurate rendition. I had considered it as a sort of pillow to keep her feet elevated, which does not apply in the new (24th) interpretation. Also let's not forget the mockery/subliminal messaging of 'Beyonce' on the chair, tilted to become prone, with the 'moon goddess' taking up the position at her feet. Also, I swear I came across an explanation somewhere that it can also be translated as 'moon AT her feet"... So when I research certain aspects in astronomy software I sometimes examine the exact moment that the moon aligns perfectly with the 2 low 'feet' stars. Much the same way as the planets are perfectly aligned and spaced out.

    With the moon purportedly representing 'sin' in the 'occult', I'm sure you ladies and gents could come up with some supporting facts regarding the woman standing on our sins but that's not really my department. Also, a message given at Fatima (at least I believe it was Fatima, or another questionable and possibly deceptive apparition) indicated that "the last normal day will be a Friday".

    On that note, my end bracket for a few very specific events is October 13th. If nothing of note has happened by then, I will be convinced of the following: The Sept 23 date was merely a time marker or bookend (the left bookend) for a specific time period. Same could be said for the solar eclipses 7 years apart. This time period I am referring to is NOT ONLY the tribulation period but more accurately, a sign of the time period containing a COUNTERFEIT time of tribulation, orchestrated by "Satan"/Antichrist/earthly workers of Lucifer, having had time to plan and put into action further and more devastating deceptive events, soon to unfold.

    I find it possible that there might be a 3.5 year counterfeit tribulation (minimum) and then a 3.5 year Great Tribulation period. However, if the entire 7 years is the counterfeit, then the real one would occur afterwards. They will likely even go so far as so produce a counterfeit Antichrist figure (to be later removed/killed), an impostor Beast and False Prophet, etc...(TO address someone elses comment, possibly from the previous articles, they want you to think the Pope is on of those 3 people and same with certain presidents)... I'm sure you also know that they can easily stage a very convincing and pre-emptive 'alien' arrival show in the sky, complete with phony sound effects to freak everyone out into falling for their narratives.

    Lastly it's no coincidence that Cassini will crash into (I believe) Saturn and that Juno will (I believe) crash into Jupiter. These 'probes' contain radioactive material, or as some would say: nukes.

    I came across a document which indicated that when they try to convince us that something has just happened to that effect, it would be at that same time that a few planned earthquakes would be deliberately triggered on Earth to coincide with the 'sky explosions', "in regions of the world where people have been led to believe that arcane mysteries are buried"...

    Then would begin some pertinent 'archaeological discoveries' providing us with 'new information' ,which has also been planned all along.

    Just my two cents.

    -B

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    1. G5270 is "Under"
      https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G5270&t=KJV

      G1715 is "At"
      https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G1715&t=KJV

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    2. Thanks for that but just so we're clear I am also stating that when she is prone on the 23rd the moon is 'under' her feet, like a pillow. And I still tend to examine the sign precisely when the celestial sign markers appear to align perfectly.

      If we are expecting the moon to be in Libra (and since things are sometimes presented cryptically, requiring deciphering and discernment) wouldn't we expect it to say something like "...the moon in judgement...", then we could say 'yea okay sure, exactly... because the moon went to Libra, the scales of judgement'...etc... But since the sign takes place with Sun and Moon in Virgo (much like the Miracle of the Sun date), I think the 23rd fits better for the sign. Not trying to say important events of parts/prolonging of the sign wont take place on the 24th. Especially considering it could be seen as 8pm 23rd-8pm 24th or 12noon 23rd-12noon 24th. And so on.

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    3. Wow... Just your two cents- that's quite a bargain of speculation for 2 cents- quite creative too - and possible. Not probable- Satan & his minions are dufus maximus and I would never give them that much credit

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  8. I could see rapture anytime within the timeframe of the FoT; the scriptural language mirroring this particular feast with biblical pictures of rapture seem far too coincidental. Plus, the Bible is full of patterns and symmetry and all other significant events regarding Jesus were fulfilled on feasts. Whether it's this year or a future year, I firmly think rapture will happen during FoT (Biblical/Israel time zone).
    One thing I'd like to point out regarding Rev 12 and the "birth position" of the woman discussion is that lying down (prone) during birth is a recent phenomena. If you look at old pictures of birthing chairs being used, women were standing/squatting during birth. Gravity helps the birthing process; I have 5 blessings so some experience there. I speculate that the more recent practice of lying down occurs because of modern practices: a) checking cervix/ dilation requires lying down; b) medical people feel they can control the birth easier/ and won't accidentally drop the baby; c)!its easier to use all the monitors/machinery on a prone woman, etc.
    All this being said, IF this alignment Sep 23 or 24 is a sign, it's not for us (born again believers) because we will be raptured PRIOR to Rev 12 (raptured by Rev 4, "after this...")

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  9. I would like to link this recent Steve Cioccolanti video on the great American eclipse on 8/21/17 in addition to show the IDEA of traditional Hebrew mindset when talking about "signs" that is so much different from our 'Greek' = Gentile mindset. "Signs" always referred to celestial events! He refers to Matthew 12:39 and Matthew 16:4 . Surely, the "sign of Jonah" is connected with the picture of resurrection but when it happened, the heathen Ninivites were already prepared to Jonahs sermon by the means of some celestial harbinger which was a solar eclipse.

    So Rev12-sign is not the ONLY sign in the heavens to notice for Christians in connection to rapture but a sort of CLIMAX exit sign directly at the highway off-ramp.

    I do certainly not always agree about everything Cioccolanti teaches but some of his ideas are worth thinking over. Nor am I from the extreme Hebrew roots movement of today but this doesn't mean that (western) Christians shouldn't get back to learn more about where their beliefs come from and how Jewish Feast days were traditionally celebrated at the time when Paul spoke to the Thessalonians and Corinthians (both understood biblical language very well!) = John 4:22 and Romans 11:18 Much love and MARANATHA!

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  10. The problem is that you all are using the Greek/Western imagery. The Mazzaroth came to us thru the Sumerians not the Greeks who introduced many corruptions. The Jews who came from ur of the Chaldees would have used the Sumerian imagery which is represented in the Arabic form. Remember that one of the pointed elements is that this year the feast of trumpets falls on a Saturday. The Sabbath. lets not take the splendor of all that lines up out of the mix. If you use the Arabic/Babylonian imagery the woman has her veil pulled back ( they are not wings ) ready to receive her wedding crown ( as was the Jewish custom of the Jews for the bride ) and she is pulling up her dress preparing to give birth. In the Middle east woman stood to give birth. They were assisted by handmaids to do so and allow gravity to do some of the work. If you use the Babylonian imagery, then from the perspective of Israel the moon is moving into the position under her feet just at the very hour the evening sacrifice could be offered of which sacrifice the priest must be prepared to perform when the chief priest comes to knock on the door.

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  11. Since the Church was conceived on the festival of Pentecost - the last fulfilled festival - it makes a lot of sense to me the Church would be born on the festival of Trumpets. After all, if the conception of the Church was worthy of a festival on the divine calendar, how much more the moment when the dead are raised and the Church is made incorruptible and immortal! So to me a rapture on 9/21 makes the most sense.

    I think we may be making an error in assuming that the 9/23 sign is for the Church. The Bible tells us that the Greeks seek after wisdom; it is the Jews who want signs. I think this sign is for Israel, and is telling them that the Tribulation is about to begin. The birth has happened and they missed it. 9/23 does preceed the event - and the event is the tribulation period. This sign is not for us; it is for Israel.

    But we'll see when the day comes. I do think that the tribulation will begin in October, in order to hit all the right festival dates, so one way or another I suspect we will be gone by then. I'm content to wait and see how it all plays out. (Fortunately, I don't have to know the exact date in order to be included in the rapture!)

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    1. I agree that this verse gives perspective:
      [1Co 1:22 KJV] For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:

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      [Gal 3:28 KJV] There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

      So we the Body do not seek Sign or Wisdom, we walk by Faith and Belief, so.... I put forth the question, "Will we even see the 'Great Sign'?"

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    2. I think Steve @ HeavenlySign2017 has that tied up. All of us watchers have ALREADY 'seen' the sign in our hearts. Faith is the EVIDENCE of things NOT SEEN (with the eyes), the SUBSTANCE of things hoped for. Thus, the planets and stars and orchestration are the material manifestation of the will of our Father in action but the 'SIGN' has been seen by all of us looking up and using the lenses or the intellect (Stellarium) to authenticate what the Spirit has unveiled before our witness.

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    3. Exactly, Jimboni!! You nailed it! :-D Malachi 3:16 (please also read v. 17-18 = "in THAT day... I will SPARE them") MARANATHA!

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    4. Annabel, thank you, amen; The Book of Remembrance, wow. In light of the likelihood that many, incredible things will happen all at once, as the enemy seeks to deceive those left behind, by springing huge events the moment the catching away has happened (NK war/nuke, $ collapse, Aliens arriving, etc.) , the upcoming eclipse mirrored in 7 years, and so on, and the possibility of the Lord using the Rapture, itself, as a sign to His People, with the Rev 12 sign being part of that, verse 18 stood out especially:

      "Then once more you shall see the DISTINCTION BETWEEN the righteous and the wicked, between one who serves God and one who does not serve him" (Mal 3:18, ESV, emphasis mine).

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    5. Wow!!!! The Book of Remembrance, sounds like the book of life!
      Feast of Trumpets is the day of Remembrance/Memorial.

      Interesting that Malachi 3:16 harmonizes with John 3:16.....

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  12. Great FIND and insights!! It looks to me that Israel (the Woman) is getting up and ready to flee into the Wilderness [Rev 12:6] MARANATHA \o/ :)

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  13. WOW...yes WOW, so much information, so little time, so much to try and understand...that is fine. COME QUICKLY LORD JESUS!

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  14. Question? In Rev. 12, it states, Revelation 12:14 (NKJV)
    14 But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent. " That is 3 1/2 years, can you explain that part to me? I am not sure what it means.

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  15. Some say that the interpretation of "No man knows the day or the hour" has been misinterpreted. They say that the disciples understood the meaning of "The Day or The Hour" as well as the "Twinkling Of An Eye"

    No man knows the day or the hour Explained:

    The Feast Of Trumpets is marked by one of two days.
    http://www.shepherdministries.net/home/rosh_hashanah_countdown

    The Feast of Trumpets is the ONLY Feast of The Lord in which the arrival is dependent upon the confirmed sighting of the new moon before it can officially begin. For that reason, there are always two days allotted and considered to be "one long day".

    This countdown timer is timed for sundown (Jerusalem Time) of the evening preceding the first day. However, this feast may not officially begin until the following day or evening.
    *Holidays begin at sundown on the evening of the previous day*

    Two Jews are sent out and watch for the moon at sunset. If they cannot see the moon (usually because the sun is too bright to see the moon) then the Feast Of Trumpets is on the next night.
    If the two witnesses do see the moon, they report back to the High Priest and thus begins the feast day.

    The twinkling of the eye explained:
    http://www.torahcalendar.com/SUNSET.asp

    In Hebraic thought, evening twilight is understood as a transitional period between day and night. It is currently understood that it is evening twilight as long as two stars of medium magnitude are visible, but it is night upon the appearance of a third star of medium magnitude. In ancient times, some understood that night begins in a moment in time which is impossible to determine called the twinkling of an eye. This is interesting, as Paul prophesied that the righteous would be resurrected in the twinkling of an eye.

    Thus, no man knows ahead of time, the day or the hour. But it is on one, of two consecutive days, marking the feast day, and/or the New day (or Sabbath), thus, only the Father knows the day or the hour ahead of time.

    Scotties Main Site:
    https://www.youtube.com/user/eternalrhythmflow/videos

    Suggested Video from the above site:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbS50oi3sII

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    When will it be?

    Look for twilight in Jerusalem. Calculate the hour where you live. On the east coast it will be about 7 hours ahead. So, 8pm Jerusalem time will be about 2pm my time, (in the afternoon). See my post above talking about "No man knows the day or the hour explained". (I have no idea of when nightfall happens in Jerusalem in September.)

    6:34PM Jerusalem, Israel = 10:34am (7 Hours Ahead), East Coast, USA
    https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/israel/jerusalem?month=9
    OR
    It could be put off for 24 hours.

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  16. Searching the scriptures throughout the sleepless night and this verse came up. I don't know if it has anything to do with anything but here it is:

    20 The word of the LORD came a second time to Haggai on the twenty-fourth day of the month,
    21 “Speak to Zerubbabel, governor of Judah, saying, I am about to shake the heavens and the earth,
    22 and to overthrow the throne of kingdoms. I am about to destroy the strength of the kingdoms of the nations, and overthrow the chariots and their riders. And the horses and their riders shall go down, every one by the sword of his brother.
    23 On that day, declares the LORD of hosts, I will take you, O Zerubbabel my servant, the son of Shealtiel, declares the LORD , and make you like a signet ring, for I have chosen you, declares the LORD of hosts.” - Haggai 2:18-23
    By Glo

    Godspeed.

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    1. Peter Goodgame believes one of the two witnesses may be Zerubabbel because of this passage. Free ebook here, skip to the chapter on the 2 Witnesses!
      http://www.redmoonrising.com/RMRbook/contents.htm

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    2. Wow. Thank you for that. Amazing how the Word comes alive when its unsealed!

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    3. Excellent... @fitethefoodfite Excellent... I put on my Bible app - Every time I hear the name Shealtiel... I always say it over and over and over... Love that name... Now .. I know why

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    4. errr @fitethegoodfite please see my reply to you sent to mispelled handle... sorry

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  17. Hi Brad, I have not read through every comment and don't know if I am repeating what someone else has mentioned already, however thanks for this study and perspective. Would you have a look at Habakkuk 2:3 and try to put it into context as it might relate to us 'waiting' for our King to speak from His position. Be cool brother, lets hang in there, He is coming for sure...

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  18. The number 29 means DEPARTURE. YOM KIPPUR is on the 29th! Keep looking to the LORD. He is our salvation!

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    1. That's a lot better than the 23 that means "death".

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  20. Been reading your comments... I can't believe it goes all the way to rapture eve & I finally find this band of saints... Smart people's site... Very cool niche

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  21. Hi All, I'm new to all this although I've loved Bible prophecy for years. Anyway this all seems serious enough to motivate me to finally talk to my daughter and we prayed for her salvation and I even gave her the world's worst baptism in the bath tub. Love to all, Kris

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  22. Hey I heard one thing . I have question about, it is that when a women gives birth to a Male child she is unclean for seven days then she is clean and can go before the lord again could this also mean us since we are a male birth? a mother is not going to send a baby boy to church with the dad it will remain with her and also the child will not be named for 8 days. we will received a new name in heaven correct that would be 7 days unclean and 1 for the new name. Just a thought Love to all

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