Ancient Pre Christ Depiction of Revelation 12?
I found this quite interesting... first leaned of it on Daniel Matson's page. It's hard to imagine that these ancient civilizations understood what we are seeing today, but the evidence is compelling. Check this out for yourself and share your thoughts below.
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Did the ancient world have a Pre-Christ depiction of the astronomical events of Revelation 12. Important note. The Greek inscriptions appear to be a later corruption. They run right over the top of the stars. This is particularly true of the top right star. Had I known this I would have noted it in the video. It appears to be an attempt at corrupting the intent and hiding the date.
Here is the video (5 Minutes)
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Did the ancient world have a Pre-Christ depiction of the astronomical events of Revelation 12. Important note. The Greek inscriptions appear to be a later corruption. They run right over the top of the stars. This is particularly true of the top right star. Had I known this I would have noted it in the video. It appears to be an attempt at corrupting the intent and hiding the date.
Here is the video (5 Minutes)
In the video I mention that researchers have postulated a date for July 7 62 B.C. Since posting I have been made aware of yet another date proposed. 7/14/109 ( 108 Stellarium ) B.C.. From left to right researchers have Mars, Mercury, Jupiter in a crooked alignment. With that configuration there would be no convergences of Mars or Mercury as depicted in the reliefs due to Jupiter being behind both. In addition the lion relief has the new moon placed between the stars Regulus and 31 Leo . The proposed date of 7/14/109 B.C. places the moon about 5 degrees south of 31 Leo.
ReplyDeleteIt is very clear to see that some time after the making of the Lion relief, rather then destroy the relief, some one thought it better to insert a date for a past fulfilment long after the relief was made. Despite the alteration being a clear corruption even the attempt at altering the date tells us of the importance of what was being depicted. The event of 8/21/17-1/7/18 are a perfect fit.
Hey Brad, thanks for sharing. Very interesting! Why do you think the Lion relief is on the left? The other reliefs follow a timeline from right to left; as such the Lion should logically be on the right.
Delete"For the invisible things of him FROM (since) THE CREATION of the world are CLEARLY seen, being UNDERSTOOD by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse..." (Rom 1:20, KJV, emphasis mine).
ReplyDelete1The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands.
2Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they reveal knowledge.
3They have no speech, they use no words; no sound is heard from them.
4Yet their voice goes out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world. (Ps 19:1-4, NIV)
Daniel, at informedchristians YTC has done such a wonderful job of enlarging our understanding of the Rev 12 sign as a process of signs, not a single event, and how this was the context of our Lord's teachings to the Apostles and their understanding of that context and much of what was NOT directly stated which we now strive to intuit. That is the same teaching we see here, in stone, crafted by a peoples outside the Hebrew context, factually affirming Rom 1:20, above.
Like unto a "two witnesses" dynamic, add this to the alignment within the GP of Giza which occurred 9/21/17, as I recall, and which had been crafted into the stone to do that, on THAT DATE, NOW, thousands of years ago. In the larger context established by the verses above, none of this is surprising to those of us with Eyes and Ears although those without such insight will be in perplexity and assign explanations elsewhere (Dan 12; esp: Dan 12:3; Dan 12:10). You gotta' love it (Luke 12:56) ! Maranatha!
One extra thought: I cannot see this clearly n the video but is it such that the meeting with Mars is the last depiction where Jupiter appears? If Jupiter is absent thereafter and the next glyph, the Lion, shows a shift back to the Lord and His People, with Jupiter, "the Body" absent, hmmm, just sayin' Maranatha!
DeleteVery interesting Brad Hurst. It's really exciting to be alive and to try and envision what the Lord has planned for us. Amazing that the best attempts at hiding and deception did not manage to mask what God intended us to see. I'm very excited to hear your answer to Jim's question about the absence of Jupiter. Blessings - Sherry
ReplyDeleteHi Sherry. In total agreement. These discoveries are so awesome and to Brad, thank you for sharing this. So encouraging and Jimboni's breakdowns are always like icing on the cake. Blessings!
DeleteI'm not too knowledgeable about this, so please forgive me. I understand the Rev 12:1-2 sign, and I can see the significance the Jupiter-Venus conjunction. But can someone explain to me (or point me to a good link) the meaning of the Jupiter-Mercury conjunction that happened on Oct 18th? What did that represent? Who is Mercury? Doesn't Mercury typically represent a messenger?
ReplyDeleteThanks for the help!!
Blessings on you all for sharing so much good info! I'm beginning to rely on this site more and more!
Dennis, that's a rather narrow search window you ask us to unpack. Let me give some general guidance to serve anyone in the same spot. The Sign, aka Rev12, turns out to actually be a series of signs spanning a bit over 2 years. These 'Signs' are each, themselves, significant in the language of the Mazzaroth, though, of course, The Great Wonder, spoken of by John The Revelator, was a specific configuration occurring 9/23/17, alone.
DeleteMercury is commonly thought to be akin to Gabriel, the Messenger. Hence, in the choreography of The Sign, this moment is, among other things, seen as a possible Birth Announcement of the Woman's Travail the month prior. I do great injustice to the cornucopia of great studies online so I encourage you (all) to just do broad word searches on your favorite search engine and add Revelation 12 to the search and its a great start. Informedchristians YTC, HeavenlySign2016 YTC, Unsealed.com, are great places to start but are very deep waters if you want to go there. Lastly a good start where the 10/18/16 Moment within The Sign is touched upon, I believe, is http://www.dailycrow.com/daily-update-archives/revelation-12-2017/ Maranatha!
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ReplyDeleteVery interesting and encouraging with regards to the highly expected rapture, so LATEST?? in January 2018?! I'm not sure why the inscriptions might depict a date in 109 BC that lies before the whole monument was built in 69-34 BC? Perhaps I got sth wrong, sorry. Nevertheless, NEMRUT DAGI means translated "Nimrod Mountain" so it clearly refers to the first 'world leader' on earth after the flood Genesis 10:8-9 / 1 Chronicles 1:10 The name of NIMROD only appears again in Micah 5:6 (the whole chapter deals with the Messianic salvation of Israel during the day of the LORD!). Come LORD Jesus, we're waiting!!
ReplyDeletePlease click on the "NEMRUT DAGI" link (blue) above to find more information from UNESCO website. It says archaeologists think the constellation depicted relates to the time of monument building. Anyway I'm not sure about these connections. Again, this is not some "Giza pyramid" (pre-flood?) monument but rather a very late one. Why would it depict 2017 constellations with regards to harbingers of the rapture?
DeleteAnnabel, that's a great question. In prayerful conversation, the Spirit clearly showed me, side by side, the 2 pictures in my previous post of the GP alongside this one. I was asked to compare/contrast and a myriad of questions and discontinuities clamored out of Pandora's box!
DeleteHow, indeed, would such a later-era item point so clearly forward to the same time marker? The Spirit will remind you of ALL things? Can not the Holy Spirit speak to peoples of old and not the enemy alone? Do not the Shamayim do this to His Glory? How long has the enemy KNOWN the duration of his remaining time? Seems The Sign would be knowable to anyone with a good planetarium and sound, deep understanding of The Word and both would be within the tools of the enemy's intellect long ago, no? Well, I'm not ready to get Von Daniken's input on this one but, in addition to a Shakespearean perspective it also seems that "The Game is afoot, Watson!" I look forward to everyone's ideas on THIS question, surely! Maranatha!
Jimboni my brother, TY for kindly responding, good points! In the UNESCO explanation it also says that there were rocks of some 9 tons weights to be moved (which is indeed incredible like with the GP Blocks). So in fact I'm not a Däniken supporter (this guy wasn't Christian) but yet there says a question if there must have been some "angelic knowledge" and perhaps some physical help from the watchers to builder all this? Never mind, we'll know about this soon I guess... Anyway TY for more helpful thoughts on these serious questions, family! :)
Deletevery interesting, lines up somewhat perfectly, but what i wonder is what provoked these ancient people to make such a thing, even before Christ and the prophecies yet to be told.
ReplyDeletePlease forgive me for some skepticism. To me it all seems a little strange. Gavin - a good question, thank you. We all know that Rev 12 shows the Woman, Dragon, Michael. Jupiter was in the belly of Virgin for 42 months. Three planets were in Leo, then they moved to the constellation Virgo into certain places, and meet with each other at the certain times. Why is in the Pantheon depicted only the Lion? And where is Virgo? This is in Virgo a Biblical story. And by the way, why is on the cover of the magazine Economist only a constellation of Leo, and even with six stars instead of nine? And here again, underlines the Lion! Each event should be confirmed by the Bible, and it is not clear what and how the ancient idolaters learned from. Please let no one be offended with me. I have a lot of questions, but I need to get exact answers. I'm trying to consider the combinations of planets from Dan's website. Info is very good indeed! Thank you very much! Blesssins! Come quickly, Lord!
ReplyDeleteI have invited you to contact me directly in the past and you never did. So why bother.
DeleteHey Brad Hurst - Sweeten up a little! I think Alla D lives in Germany. I'm sure there are a few time zones between Germany and California. Maybe it's not convenient for her to call or maybe she'd rather not make an international call. Maybe she'd prefer not to call a guy she doesn't personally know. Perhaps there's a language barrier when speaking. Or, whatever.
DeleteAnyway, I appreciate your comments (as well as Alla's) ... lets just take it a little easier on each other. We're all on the same team and we're going to spend eternity together!
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Thank you Dannis very much! This is all truh. And Brad Hurst thank you also. Your video is very good for me, I have difficulties understanding by ear, you can find here my explanation for this. I am here alone in Bible study, with two Sisters together, this is our church. And I saw here so many false teachers in my path with the Lord. I found here real mature Brothers and Sisters. This is the hand of the Lord! Blessings! Maranatha!
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DeleteI agree with the points Dennis made. Many of us live on another continent, speak another language than English as their native one and might not be so comfortable with making phone calls because of previously mentioned reasons -among other things- which can be understood and accepted. (Alla has mentioned it a few times that she lives in Germany.)
DeleteDear Alla my sister, please do always consider that "ancient idolators" in fact derived from Adam and Eve (and after the flood from Noahs sons) living in / around Mesopotamia after the Fall for almost 2,000 years. We have always to keep in mind that they all kept and handed down the same knowledge about God and angels etc. to their children until Nimrod made them build the tower of Babel. After being scattered by God confusing their tongues all over the globe even then there remained much of "common ancient knowledge". The nation of Israel was in fact created MUCH LATER! So please don't abolish these people as "ancient idolators" as we all have a common offspring ( Acts 17:26-28 ) and the same 'basic knowledge' about the creation events and plans of God in the beginning. An example: the modern Chinese language (letters) still contains much of pre-flood knowledge about Noah, check it out! Much live and blessings to you! :)
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