Last Days Confusion - JD Farag
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Colossians 3:2-4
Set your minds on things that are above, not on things that are on earth. For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ who is your life appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.
1 Peter 2:9
But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.
Philippians 3:20-21
But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power that enables him even to subject all things to himself.
God's Perfect Timing
ReplyDelete9-25-23 → → → 108 days → → → 1-11-24 ← ← ← 108 days ← ← ← 4-26/27-24
Yom Kippur → → 3.5 months → → YHVH ← ← 3.5 months ← ← Appointed Day
Day of Atonement → mid week → Crucifixion ← ← midweek ← ← Passover
Repentance → → Sabbath → → Resurrection ← ← Sabbath ← ← Rapture
In case you didn't notice, the midpoint or 1-11-24 is primarily focused on Jesus. Thus the following verse from the Bible seems very appropriate:
Delete"And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." (Mark 1:11 KJV)
Matthew 26
Delete27 Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. 28 This is my blood of the new covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. 29 I tell you, I will not drink from this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.
Passover is connected to Wine and the New Covenant.
Did Jesus give us a clue that he will drink wine with us during Passover after the Rapture?
From the 1. Blood Moon on Passover April 14/15, 2014 - Nisan 17, 2024 (April 25) = 10 years and 10 days (another 10/10 or 1/1 connection)
DeleteNice detective work, Stephan! So many clues in the Bible, just a matter of connecting the dots and having a little faith. Salud!!!
DeleteFour Cups of Wine 🍷 🍷 🍷 🍷 = PASSOVER
Bob, another 'symmetry':
DeletePsalm 117 (Resurrection Code, Nisan 17) is exactly in the middle of all the chapters in the Bible!
Another potential clue connecting the midpoint of January 11th to a Passover Rapture:
Delete"Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven." (Acts 1:11 KJV)
Yes, Bob! That's cool!
DeleteAnd the Book of Relevation has 22 chapters. 11-11.
Bob, we have to find a term for our Passover Rapture Date.
DeleteLu has his WWW (White Wheat Wedding).
Maybe PPP : Pink (Moon) Passover Proposal.
Lol ;))
I like your idea, Stephan.
DeleteLu's: WWW '723'
Our's: PPP '425', '426' or '427' (I'll let you choose!)
All: WFS '777'
Please keep those 1/11 clues coming. I'm sure there's many more!
Hey Stephan...just finished watching New York Prepper and he reminded everyone to remember the 3 P's..."Prepare, Practice + Persevere." Not quite the same theme as yours, but thought I'd share that with you. Prepper/Watchman Bob
DeleteThank you Bob!
DeleteFor us it should be:
Pray, Preach and Praise!
Since we are soon entering the Promised Land, PPP=
Pink Passover Promise
PRAISE the PRINCE of PEACE
DeleteStephan + Ozzie...both of you are really good at coming up with words for those 3 P's. Are either one of you an English teacher or Christian? Lol!
DeleteSo Stephan, are the final words for PPP = Pink Passover Promise? As opposed to Proposal? We'll need to get our story straight when we're debating Lu in the next couple of months.
Ozzie...love that "PRAISE the PRINCE of PEACE". My favorite painting in the house!
\!/ Shalom!
Metoo, Ozzie. Bob, I have that painting as the home screen on my large desktop monitor. For some reason when it pulls up it's zoomed in so all you see is His face, up close and personal. Whoa. I always say, "Good morning, beautiful Lord." I don't think He minds . . .
DeleteSo Bob,
DeleteGanging-Up on me already, eh? ‘PPP’?
How about …
-Parsimonious
-Perspicacious
-Prognostications
With Love,
Lu :0
Lu...I had to look up the definitions for all 3 of your P words. Clearly you're a college professor! So us penny-pinching, shrewd, prophecy forecasters are going to gang up against you, eh? So what else is new amongst your fellow watchmen and friends! Lol!
DeleteIt's all about one's Perspective about Passover and Pentecost, huh!
Judi...I agree, that P of P painting is so beautiful and inspirational.
Bob, that was very funny.
DeleteI think we should label our Date Pink Passover Promise.
Or Pre-Pentecost-Party? Lol...
Stephan...I think the "Pink Passover Promise" is an excellent choice. And that Pre-Pentecost Party is really funny, but are you trying to give Lu a 'Panic' attack with all your P's? Lol!
DeleteThe idea of a Pink Passover Rapture is Preposterous! I'm sticking with my "are there not 4 months until the WWW '723' harvest!" LuLu
DeleteSorry Lu, I couldn't resist! All in fun, bro!
lolololololol,. laughing my head off, esp. when Lu hollered out about being Ganged up on him!!!!!!!! :) hilarious'er than heck!
DeleteOzzie...I thought that was pretty funny too. Classic LuLu speak! However, while we "gang up" on him and "tease" him about a Passover vs Pentecost Rapture, I'll give him credit for a splendidly written Article #860. His best so far on the WWW 723 subject matter. No matter who wins this debate, it's all about fellowship and learning more about the ministry of Yeshua..ah..ah. And ofc, figuring out this most perplexing Biblical mystery!
DeleteMore 3 P's....☮️ ☮️ ☮️
You Bros are a bunch of 'Pinko Passover Commies!'
DeleteBut with much Love from the 'Mean Essene'
Lu :)
The Return of the King
ReplyDeleteMassive Celestial Convergence in the Constellations of the Rapture! 28.16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l5f7EE5LF8
Thank you, Carole, for this link💖His video will help with the new article I'm working on!
DeleteRE: The 120 Day Rapture Theory?
ReplyDeleteOK, this will be a ‘Deep Dive’ Study. Perhaps it will be 1 of my most Profound and Important Research to Date, attempting to ascertain the Rapture Window Timing. As one has gotten Time to work on the various Timelines for this Year, 2014, and what is coming-up in the few Years, one is more convinced of how that 723 ‘Open Vision’ Number or Code, one had back in 2020 and shared…is factoring in, how it is connected to the Revelation 12 Sign, Leo, Summer Harvest and particularly a July 23rdd Date. How so?
After further Research, one just wanted to share all that with you of one’s latest Findings and Evidence for a July 23 Significance pertaining to the Possible Rapture Date. One cannot say that Day, precisely will be the Day of the Rapture, but as you read and study the following Article, see if it makes sense. As usual, it is a bit longer than usual, 10 Pages. And you will probably have to re-read a few times. So carve out a Study Time. One realizes that others are sharing their Calculations, Day Counts and Suppositions too. No Problem. One is not Dogmatic about one’s Assertions.
As one says often, Time will Tell the Truth, and one’s Theories are included in that Mix. But here is what one believes is what one has called the ‘120 Day Rapture Theory’. It is really a Countdown to the Last Day of the Summer Wheat Harvest. It is amazingly connected to the Sign of Leo, which makes sense and an End and Beginning of a Season or Cycle of Time and of a Harvest that Jesus referred to as the Church Age Typology.
One just then juxtaposes this 120 Rapture Theory, to the Acts 2 Pentecost New Wine Event to be the possible Timing Scenario of when the Church Age will end, as it began. And again, based on Astronomy and the Sign of Leo, the Sign of the Summer Wheat Harvest, and LORD of the Harvest, etc. It is to see if it could be plausible. You will all be the Judge. Here below is an Excerpt from the Article. There are also 2 Charts linked to get an appreciation of what one is seeing and trying to convey.
Keep the Watch,
Lu
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Article
#860: WHY THE ACTS 2 PENTECOST NEW WINE IS BASED ON JESUS’ 120 DAY CLUE
FROM THE SPRING EQUINOX COUNT
When a July 23rd Day starts the Summer Wheat Harvest, Astronomically
https://www.postscripts.org/ps-news-860.html
Excerpt from Article
DeleteIn Summary, the Greatest Rapture Timing Clue was given by Jesus Himself. This pertains to the Statement, ‘Are there not 4 Months and then comes the Harvest?’ One argues that the 1st Century Israelites and the Ancient World recognized that Jesus was alluding to the 120 Day Count from the Spring Equinox of the Wheat Harvest. And that in turn, correlated to the July 23 Day that one surmises was the Acts 2 Pentecost Event. Wheat planted on the Spring Equinox has a 120 Day Cycle.
Chart 1
Why Pentecost is in the 4th Months
https://nebula.wsimg.com/ed0924a421496da9594f7713d0ec871d?AccessKeyId=D40106E1331C24ABD7C3&disposition=0&alloworigin=1
Excerpt from Article
DeleteThus, one presents the 120 Day Rapture Theory. Note that for 2024, the Western Calendar will have 2 New Year Solar Eclipses in Nisan and Tishrei. Then the July 23 Summer Wheat Harvest is in Phi Ratio to these 2 New Year Eclipses. Coincidence? No. The last Time 2 Jewish New Year Eclipses occurred in the same Western Year was in 2015 that concluded the 2014-15 Blood Moon Tetrad. Will the Rapture occur on that ‘Last Day’ of the Wheat Harvest, Astronomically that also corresponds to the Sign of the King, Leo? The Sign has the Sickle Motif as Jesus is the LORD of the Harvest and He alluded that the Church Age would be about a Wheat Harvest, of Souls, etc.
Chart 2
Lion of Judah – LORD of the Harvest
https://nebula.wsimg.com/b4c2043ce9d0f833250c661da15f2278?AccessKeyId=D40106E1331C24ABD7C3&disposition=0&alloworigin=1
Lu Vega
Lu, i just finished reading # 860 postscript over at your site. it sent chills up n down my spine!!! Then i came over here to rev. 12 daily and see these above comments from you all and wow, what can i say,? ~ ~ ~" I'm already gone "~ Onward n Upward, Forward march! Thank You, that was so very exciting! I love your sharp set of skills, truly. Shalom! *
DeleteLU~I'm looking forward to digging into #860!
DeleteAlso, I wanted to share what may be the best explanation for:
Say not ye, There are yet four months, and [then] cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest. - John 4:35 KJV
"I want you to notice that Jesus said that “…they are white already to harvest.” Jesus was not referring to the unripe wheat fields, but to the people who were coming to see Him. One scholar has noted that workers in small villages were known to wear white workers’ garments. This village of workers was so affected by the Samaritan woman’s testimony that they dropped what they were doing and immediately went to see Jesus, still dressed in their white workers’ garments. When the Lord saw a crowd of people coming toward Him dressed in white, He didn’t see white garments; He saw a harvest that was white and ready to be reaped among the Samaritans." https://renner.org/article/the-fields-are-white-unto-harvest/
Thanks Ozark and Lyn,
DeleteI like that Literal Personification of how People are like the Wheat turning 'White'. It reinforces, at least in one's Mind how out of all the 7 Major Prophetic Feasts of YHVH, it is the Pentecost New Wine one that is a specific Allegory of a Harvest, a Type of Wheat correlated to actual People.
One can sense, how from Jesus' Perspective, knowing the 'End' from the 'Beginning', He saw down the Halls of History of the End of the Church Age. And from that 1st Day of the Acts 2 Pentecost, the Harvest of Wheat was truly ready to be 'Harvesting' in each Generation until that last Grain or the 153rd Fish will be 'Caught', etc. This is aside how we know and realize that each Feast is just a Facet of the Work and Plan of Jesus Himself. He has Exclusivity in all of the and yet to be Prophetically fulfilled, at leas the last 3 in actual History, etc.
Lu
Lu, once again your research amazes me. Well reasoned and though you say some is conjecture, it is conjecture based on solid reasoning. I have tended to agree with you all along on the July 23 Pentecost possibility, and still do. While I suppose the Rapture could occur on any day, I don't really think so. While it is unique to the "Feast Cycle" having no identified day of its own, it still must be an appointed day (not merely "appointed" after the fact, because any day God chooses would be a divine appointment). I agree that the Church Age will end when the last lamb (or baby conceived) occurs. Is the Rapture "waiting" for that day, thus imminent, or is the appointed day the cutoff. No more chances, we're outta here. I suppose the answer to that question (tho I have wondered it over the years) is moot, because it will be when God says it is regardless of what I think.
DeleteBTW is there a typo in this sentence: "Realize that for 2024, the Year has 2 ‘New Years’ occurring on the Solar Eclipses. April 8, 2028 is the Religious New Year in the Jewish Calendar."
Should 2028 be 2024?
Again thank you, Lu, for sharing so freely (no pun intended) with us. Lyn I love the metaphor of the white garments: on so many levels, the imagery of what Jesus saw, our white robes of righteous as He gathers us in, the parallel to the agrarian theme Lu so thoroughly lays out for us.
Thanks Judi!
DeleteGot that typo fixes. :) It is always a 'Work in Progress'.
One admits though, that the 120 Day Rapture Theory is not a Full-Proof, thus a Theory.
There are things still unanswered or that I do not grasp fully, but the Learning Curve with this respect just moved a bit. So that was exciting on my part. Just about 6Months to prove for this Year. ;0
Lu
WOW!
ReplyDeleteJust listened to "Argentina President Javier Milei slams elites at Davos: 'the state is the problem'" --worth 22 minutes of your time!!!
Excerpts:
4:36 the empirical evidence is unquestionable. . . free enterprise capitalism is superior.
5:44 Social justice is not just. . .
15:28 having fallen in love with a failed model you are opening up the doors to socialism and condemning people to poverty.
15:45 the solution to be proposed by collectivists is not greater freedom but rather greater regulation. . . and the life of all of us depends on a bureaucrat sitting in a luxury office. . .
16:46 the cornerstone of our creed says all people are created equal that we all have the same unalienable rights granted by the Creator
21:37 In concluding. . . Long live freedom dammit
I PRAYED FOR THIS MAN! MAY GOD PROTECT HIM!
https://youtu.be/8DYQQf1KjYo?si=DIdGtTCcLt2tTNns
Suffice it to say, .. now we are cooking w/ fire! . . . also, Lev.26:40-42 seems valuable w/ respect to the war in Israel in that . . . there's more to the picture, than meets the eye ? it seems to appear or appears to appear, or seems to seem as things are coming apart at the seams! I was held in fascination the other day as I came across this verse in something that Stephen Jones posted over at GKM ( gods kingdom ministries ). his 1/16/24 blogpost. https://godskingdom.org/blog/2024/01/the-dominion-is-being-transfered
DeleteMy husband dreamed that there were bears swarming all over a town. They were really everywhere. Daniel does not listen to rapture videos or read blogs or messages from Christian brothers. He reads his Bible and listens to television. He didn't know that the bear symbol could represent Russia. I don't talk to him much about what I read or listen to online because he doesn't really trust it. And he doesn't like to be unmotivated when I talk about war or anything, he doesn't like that. I don't know if this dream is from God or not. So, to be continued....
ReplyDeleteWOW, What a dream! When a bear comes by, well, hey! but when a swarm of Bears show up, i'm thinking about the gogs of magog!!! Daniel sure has a GREAT name, prophetically speaking! I am praying . . . for more understanding asking Our Lord God for increase on this dream. Grace n Peace Carole n thanks for sharing this as well as the video you posted!
Deletetoday 1/22 over at unsealed, "Timeout" posted about what may cause the Gog / Magog invasion to begin! Interesting!!
DeleteDo you not say, ‘There are yet 4 Months, and then comes the Harvest?' Behold, I say unto you, lift up your Eyes, and look on the Fields; for they are White already to Harvest. John 4:35
ReplyDeleteLu, thank you for your Article #860! I really like your excitement for a 723 Rapture Date and I don't want to question that Date. I just want to share my thoughts, that's all.
In this Verse there is a discrepancy between 'you say‘ and 'I say‘.
You say there are still 4 months, I say 'the harvest is immediately‘. To me, it almost sounds if Jesus is rebuking 'them‘ for saying 'there are still 4 months'. So I am not sure if one can deduce a New Wine Rapture Date from this Verse. Maybe I am wrong.
But to me, ‘There are yet 4 Months, and then comes the Harvest' sounds more like a jewish idiom.
Again, maybe I’m completely wrong, but these are my thoughts.
Blessings!
Stephan,
ReplyDeleteThanks for the Feedback. All good. That is why one presents the Research, only as ‘Evidence’, not as Proofs. What you all said is correct. It perhaps was an Idiom and as Lyn inferred, Jesus was indeed not contradicting them but wanted to expand their Perception in terms of Timing and Souls now being ready to Harvest. You can look at it this way also.
Since Jesus knows the End from the Beginning. He saw and sees the End of the Harvest, down into the Church Age that was to be initiated at the Acts 2 Pentecost Event. And from His Vantage Point, the Souls of Humanity were and are as good as ripe, all the same.
As to deducing the Pentecost of Acts 2 New Wine Event because of it? One is only attributing it to the Astronomical and Agricultural Synchronicity that does point both, to a July 23 Date. And that is Amazing. Now will that correlate to the Rapture Timing? That is when Conjecture comes into play, but in one’s Estimation, it is very compelling. However, that is as much as one can claim or suggest.
Blessings,
Lu
Thank you Lu. Of course it is amazing that your 723 Date is 4 months after the Spring Equinox! I don't want to question this ;)
DeleteBlessings
ReplyDelete@ God's Roadmap to the End YTC 13:20
The End Is Here And The Rapture is Soon!
Shalom
ty Jimboni ! grace n peace Brother !! ~ also, BOB, LYN and all, my friend Jimmer counted and says there are 222 days btwn the wedding ring of ? Oct 14 sign in the heavens and - the may 23 star and that 222 is THE voice of GOD !
ReplyDeleteInteresting graphic with the X eclipse pattern over the US on Bro Keegs Telegram just now:
ReplyDeleteGeneration X
Planet X
Musk's Space X
Tesla X
Twitter X
Disease X
Sure praying we are outta here soon. Keep up the good work, guys, with all the correlations and connections you're finding! Blessings, fam. Keeping the watch with you.
Hey Carole, I tried to look up Keegans Telegram and couldn't find it. Can you post the link? It doesn't have to be a hyperlink.
DeleteLyn, it's not me but Judi!
DeleteHey Lyn, I tried to find a "link" on his channel for you. I just joined Telegram then did a search for those I was interested in. Then clicked on join channel. Hope that helps. Good sources there as Telegram doesn't censor. Amir Tsarfati is being censored everywhere now, but Telegram is still good.
DeleteEyes Open YTC, 4 mins: Two Moons Seen Worldwide!!!
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfIJ50O-iiU
Hello, this video is no longer available. Where else can I watch this. I had a dream about two moons last night and this comment caught me off guard, because I didn't think my dream meant much
DeleteHello Andrea, I can't find it this morning either. Maybe it's as Carole mentioned, Jupiter and the moon rather than 2 moons. A number of people have also apparently had dreams of seeing two moons, however.🤷♀️
DeleteOk, thank you 😊
DeleteMost likely, imo, what you are seeing are 2 of Nibiru's planetoids peeking 'through the lattice' (Song of Solomon 2:9) of technology up there to hide such things. McGaha's Dragon slips into view. Strong alignment with the 'two moons' phenom agreed. Even if not meant to be seen, it still pushes a desired narrative to be used shortly, it would seem. @ iheart.com 01:27 nested in article
DeleteTwo Moons Appear In Sky Over Dubai
Or, alternatively, a test of Bluebeam (dramatic music)
Delete
DeleteJimboni--That video is from 2021--
https://www.space.com/uae-hope-mars-moons-projection
According to space.com:
The two moons of Mars were projected above the skies of Dubai to celebrate the first Emirati mission to the Red Planet.
The United Arab Emirates (UAE) did the campaign, hoping it would go viral, to generate excitement about the Hope mission to investigate the mysterious atmosphere of Mars.
Mr. Jimboni, i cain't help but think that the 'song of Solomon' says it all w/ respect to our rapture
DeleteThank you dear sister! I saw it in the sky too and I looked with my phone which has the planet app, and it said it was Jupiter. But maybe it was something other than Jupiter after all. This would be great since many have dreamed of seeing 2 moons before the rapture.
ReplyDeleteI always thought until my dream in 2020, that when we were transformed and ascended into the clouds, it would be in the blink of an eye, a transformation and being in the clouds with our Lord. A wink for both stages simultaneously. Disappear in plain sight, like in Christian films. After the dream, I didn't know if it was immediate or not. But here's another slightly different perspective from Brother Mondo of the Prophecy Watchers website. It could be too. 12.01
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGHIpGDvvRE
Thanks, Carole! Interesting and plausible. So many of our preconceived ideas of how a certain thing will play out, are not actually based on Scripture. Lyn, this may lend support to yours and others' visions of the Church witnessing for a "time" here on earth after the transformation and before the "catching up." Exciting times no matter how it transpires!
DeleteVery weird! New evidence has surfaced and it shows this Miami Mall event has already occurred in 2023….the same incident exactly 1 year ago! MrMBB333 11.29
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkxQj7sqgeg
Almost insane but certainly bewildering, Babylonian confusion! What's next??
DeleteHave you already seen the cover of the 'Economist 2024'?
ReplyDeleteThe main theme is the Eclipse in April.
There are two rows depicting the different phases of the Eclipse.
There are 17 circles in each row.
If each circle is one day, it could point to Nisan 17...
And 17 sustainable development goals...
DeleteOr, PPP! But only if you're a 'commie' and have a vivid sense of imagination. Lol! Thinking of your last post, Lu (aka the 'Mean Essene').
DeleteBob you wrote: We'll need to get our story straight when we're debating Lu in the next couple of months.
ReplyDeleteAs we only have 77 days till Nisan 1, we should start to discuss PPP versus WWW.
I want to start the Debate with a quote of Page 90 of Lu's Book ‘Circumstantial Evidence why the Crucifixion was in 32 AD’:
One Contends that the More Accurate Day of the Proclamation by Artaxerxes II …would have followed the tradition of Ancient Decree to occur in tandem with the Astronomical Time Markers, such as the Equinoxes and Solstices. Consider the following suppositions. One postulates that the actual Decree occured on the Spring Solstice, March 20, -445 BC.
With this Speculated Reference Point, the Day Count of the 173,880 Days would result then, in April 10 32 AD. This would Amazingly Correspond to the exact Day Jesus rode on the Donkey through the Golden Gate of Jerusalem. This was the 'Day of the Visitation'…
Jesus Prophetically Fulfilled the Typology of needing to have the Passover Sacrificial Lamb be Endeared with the People in their Homes and then be examined by the High Priest for a Duration of 4 Days.
Lu, didn’t you 'inadvertently‘ confirm that weeks of years begin and end in Nisan? Which event in Israel's history regarding Messiah the Prince occurred on Nisan 10, thereby putting an end to 69 weeks of years? The events of the Triumphal Entry!
I am not sure if Dispensations begin and end on Pentecost. Rather on Passover. There is a reason the first 69 Week of years ended on Nisan 10, at Jesus’s Triumphal Entry. Couldn't the beginning of Daniel's 70th Week begin in Nisan (Nisan 10?) ? Will the selection of the ,anti-lamb' or ‚anti-Christ' by Israel happen again in Nisan?
Stephan...nice way to start the PPP vs WWW debate. As we previously established the meaning of PPP (Pink Passover Promise) and WWW (White Wheat Wedding), I say "Let the Games Begin"! Lol!
DeleteSince all quotes and questions appear to be directed at Luis B. Vega, the debate panel gives him 10 minutes or 1000 words (as in Nisan 10!) to respond.
Your "neutral" debate moderator!
RE: When do Dispensations Change?
Delete‘Rocky Balboa’ Stephan!
Bring it! Lol. So, you want to ‘Rumble in the Jungle’, eh? I see Bob, our ‘Un-Bias Moderator’ put you up to this? OK, on this ‘Corner’ you have the PPP’s vs. Lu’s WWW. My Reply?
‘I Must Break You’. ;0
As usual, as one started to write the Rebuttal, but it got too long to Post on the Blog. I have it as an Article to review in the Link Below. It is just ‘Iron Sharpening Iron’ and one is only offering one’s Point of View on the Matter.
Lu,
The Mean Essene, AKA, ‘Ivan Drago’
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#861: WHEN DO DISPENSATIONS CHANGE?
AN ARGUMENT FOR APENTECOSTAL TIME-FRAME
Based on the Astronomical ‘Leo New Year’
https://www.postscripts.org/ps-news-861.html
'Ivan Drago‘ Lu!
DeleteThank you for your 'Rebuttal‘ and the Debate!
Aries versus Leo!
Upon which specific day do all Hebrew weeks of years begin?
Leviticus 25:1
And the LORD spake unto Moses in Mount Sinai, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye come into the land which I give you, then shall the land keep a sabbath unto the LORD.
Moses was instructed by God at Mount Sinai to have Israel establish sabbaths, or periods of seven, for the land upon entering it. For six years, they would work the land, and in the 7.year, they would let the land rest.
When did Israel enter the land and establish the sabbaths in accordance with God's command?
Joshua 4:19
And the people came up out of Jordan on the 10. day of the first month
The children of Israel left the wilderness and crossed the Jordan on the 10. day of the 1.month. The beginning of months was reassigned to correlate to the month in which the lamb was selected and sacrificed for Passover. The day upon which land sabbaths begin is the 10. day of the 1. month.
Or in other words: the day upon which weeks of years begin, including each of Daniel's 70 Weeks of years, is Nisan 10.
Thus, the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem would naturally have been given in the month of Nisan. Nehemiah 2 shows this to be the case. Prophetically speaking, there would have been no other option.
Bob, what is the score? Lol.
Lu and Stephan...as your "unbiased + neutral" debate moderator I commend you both for putting forth excellent arguments for and against a Nisan 10 "Change of Dispensation" or more broadly speaking, when the Rapture will most likely occur. In other words, kudos to you both for digging deep into the Word and into the Stars as it greatly benefits us all. Now as to who won the debate or "What is the score?" asked by Stephan, that is not for the debate moderator to decide but it is for the audience or reader to make that decision. But I should remind everyone, we're around the "midway" point in the debate process and you have at least 76 more days before Passover to make up your mind. So carefully consider all points presented, ponder the seriousness of the matter and its ramifications, then "choose wisely" as your salvation/redemption depends on it! Just kidding!!!
DeleteFinally, I must point out that Lu's rebuttal exceeded the 1000 word limit so 3 points will be deducted from his score. Rules are rules, no? Lol!
. . . hey its not a Felony! its only a (mister- Mean'er) as in the "Mean' Essene"! Folks, this man is like my dogs say, 'ruff'! and, he bites! Keep at a safe distance if you dare to challenge him!!! Mister Meaner Lu,.. IS KNOT Who,.. you may think! You have been for- warned. :) Howdy Lu, of course, I am referring to yer Outlaw days of old, back when you were runnin' round with Pancho n Lefty n them. So glad you've been fully rehillbillytated! and welcomed back into the human race, Bravo! and hey, don't worry nun about them 3 points. ITS ALL GOOD! and besides that we still got us a couple a dem 3 pointed pitchforks out in the barn if'n our moderator needs some pointers !!! /// Anywho, allthat aside, ima pick the Full Moon of Pentecost this here year'n of 2024 at the onset of ''Summer" ! for our Great Escape, however' as some of you might know (and agree) that i'm already gone * esp. after reading your 860 postscript! ^ SHALOM good people ~
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DeleteYes, you cannot ‘Win’ around here. It is a Set-Up! Lol. I am already -3 Points Behind! But true, for this 2024 Year, the Full Moon in July will be on the Sunday, the 20th. Then on the 3rd Day after that, being Tuesday, will be the 23rd (723)…that ‘Leo New Year’.
One likes to think that the Pattern will follow the 3 Days Jesus was in the Grave and then He Arose…Perhaps that will be like the Rapture Scenario will play-out or could.
Blessings,
Lu
Say, btw does anyone know where i may be able to grab hold of some nuthin' burgers, i'm plumb out! BOB, Bobber ole boy, do you read me here, . . on this?, dang it, im gittin' n hungrie!
DeleteHalelujah \./ LuMan!* TY for that recalibration!!! WOW WEE, this is truly INCREDIBLE ! Man oh Man, by crackie! Like Ty Green says, "Going Vertical" ! i guess that's his way a sayin' what we call, "Hot diggity, 'clods a dirt" ~ this here's Pay Dirt!* Blessings all ~
DeleteI meant to say 3 points or 3 P's will be deducted from Lu's score! Your "neutral" debate moderator! Lol!
DeleteOzzie...so it looks like you and Judi have joined the "dark side" with LuLu, huh? Guess I'd better watch out now for those 3 pointed pitchforks coming my way! You're so funny! Let the Hunger Games begin! Lucky for me, I've got plenty of Sagitta arrows in my quiver and Stephan is a skilled impalement artist! Lol!
Bob, i love you man ~`at first, i thought you were a figment of my imagination, then i realized what the Fig meant * \!/ thanks for the fun man :) Praise GOD, ... Why who'd of ever believed it!!!, watch n pray broman and watchout fer the flyin' pitchforks. There's no gettin' over you my friend *
DeleteGreetings family! Watch this video from 5.33 minutes. It's strange! Does anyone know what this is exactly?
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaUpY0r4q_s
It's a little after the middle of the video.
DeleteCarole, i watched it in fascination,. . . and then i read the comments below the video and I laid it to rest. its OK to do so, but I'll never forget or regret seeing that, ty! grace n peace ~
DeleteLuMan, i was referring to the Pentecost on June's Full Moon this year, 50 days after the end of Passover week ending on Apr. 30th
DeleteIm thinking, Song of Solomon, the Husband returns on the full moon! Maybe i have my wires crossed? on some of this causing a bit of misunderstanding. I hope you see this comment ~
DeleteHey my beloved Rev12Fam--
ReplyDeleteFirst, thank you all who have answered my questions above.
Next, I would very much appreciate prayers for Tom and I as we will be traveling soon in "lovely" weather to visit my brother whose health is failing fast due to a lifetime of--well, not taking care of his health AND he was tricked into getting the experimental injection.
I was very much hoping I would not lose another member of my family before the Rapture--I'm sure my brother had the same hopes (thank you, Lord, we are all born again!). It is expected to lose your parents at my age, but my youngest brother died a couple of years ago and now my oldest brother is fading quickly.
THANK YOU GOD FOR YOUR PROMISES!
But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
AND THANK YOU GOD FOR MY FAMILY HERE AT REV12💖
Wherefore comfort one another with these words. 1 Thessalonians 5:13-18 KJV
Awwwe Lyn, suffice it to say, my heart is beating your way in these matters in the lives of your family, w/respect toward your oldest Brother ~ i'm praying grace sufficient, for you all, shalom ~ you know how we All feel about you, precious sister * LoVe
DeletePrayers-Up Lyn, for your Brother...that he and the whole Family be at Peace and you all gather closer to Jesus because of it.
DeleteBlessings, Lyn…Prayers up for you and Tom safe traveling grace and praying for your dear brother’s health situation. And thank you for reminding of those wonderful Scriptures! Praising God continually for His loving and life giving promises!
DeleteSitting here now at the hospital waiting for Billy to get another CT scan so the heart surgeon can determine the procedure he will be using to remove the large amount of fluid on his heart. The main thing is to find out the cause, so we would surely appreciate Prayers for us in that regard and that it’s something treatable. It’s been a long couple of weeks of doctor visits and testing just getting to this stage, but now they are finally moving quickly and have the approval to do whatever they need to do with God providing a top notch thoracic surgeon who has been so kind and caring.
Love and Prayers to all as we continue to watch and wait for our Beloved Savior!🥰🙏
Lyn...I'll be praying for your brother and that you and Tom have a safe trip.
DeleteSheila...my thoughts and prayers go out to you and your husband Billy as well.
Praying for you Lyn and all yours! And for all Fam! We are so near now! I'm getting worse, but hope it will be better! I want to meet our Lord Jesus in the air! All events and signs are running quickly! Thanks for all comments here!
DeleteMy dear sisters Lyn and Sheila, I am with you in prayer for your husbands, for Lyn's brother, and for both of you, my sisters. There are so many illnesses and health issues that strike us all! God reigned during the flood and still reigns. He cares for all of us. Big hugs!
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All that you stated, one agrees with. One does think there is something Prophetic about Nisan 10. But if one is understanding it correctly, you are suggesting that it is the Day when the Dispensations Change? Could be. But as one is suggesting, one is more focused on the Timing of the Rapture that will conclusively End the Church Age.
And that although the Dispensation of Grace ‘Ends’, the Day Count, specifically to conclude Daniel’s 70th Week does not necessarily have to start nor will, exactly the Day after. As mentioned, one believes there is that approximate Year of Time Gap that will then start in the Fall of 2025.
Now as to the Nisan 10 being the Prophetic Bench-Mark? You are basing in how and when the Israelites crossed over the Jordan River. Granted. But realize that the Day that occurred was not when the Sabbaths of the Land commenced. Based on one’s Research, the Sabbath Count, to include the Jubilee 50 Year Markers occurred 7 Years after Israel crossed the Jordan. Why do you ask?
It was how long it took Israel to Subdue and Evict the Natural Inhabitants of the Land as Commanded by YHVH. Note that the Scripture states that the Israelites started eating of the Grain that was already Planted and Harvested. This is because the Manna stopped appearing once they crossed over the Jordan. This is to mean that Israel could not or would not be situated and established to have Planted and Harvested a Grain Crop.
One would agree that the Calendar of Months was reiterated by Joshua as it was given to Moses to observe as the Head of the Year. Note that from a Nisan Month to a Tishrei Month is 4 Months. It is reminiscent of the 4 Months Jesus spoke about how long it takes for a Grain to be Planted and Harvested. Just an Observation.
This Rationale is based on the Work that one has referenced here before. Here is the Excerpt of the core tenet of why the Count of the Sabbaths of the Land or the Shemitahs began 7 Years after the Crossing of the Jordan by Israel, and not on the Nisan 10th of that initial Crossing.
Reference Article
#380: JUBILEE-SABBATICAL CYCLES
THE YEARS IDENTIFIED
From Old Testament Chronology
https://www.postscripts.org/ps-news-380.html
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'The Zero-Clock start (Epoch) for the reckoning of Sabbatical Years and jubilees was Spring (Nisan 1), 1443 BC. From Floyd Nolen Jones: The year Moses died, and Joshua entered the Land was long ago determined by Ussher, Bishop Lloyd, Monsignor Toinard, William Whiston and now independently confirmed by this author as BC 1451'.
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Delete‘However, the conditions concerning the Year of Jubilee did not have to do with merely being in the land but with its actual possession and cultivation (Lev.25). As documented heretofore, the tribes divided the Land in 1444 BC after 7 years of war with its Pagan Inhabitants. They would have planted that Fall; thus, the Jubilee and Sabbatical count would have begun in the Spring of the following year (1443) with the harvest of the 1st Cops (Lev.25:3, '6 years thou shalt … gather in the fruit thereof').
This places the 15th Jubilee as commencing in the Autumn of the year beginning in 709 BC and ending in the Autumn of 708 (II Ki.19:29; Isa.37:30, cp. II Ki.18:32 and Isa.37:17).From Floyd: Further, Biblical chronological studies regarding the years of Jubilee (especially note Isa.37:30) yield the result that 27/28 AD was a Jubilee Year (again, Josephus concurs, Flavius Josephus, Josephus Complete Works, trans. by William Whiston, Grand Rapids, MI: Kregel Publications, 1960, Appendix, Dissertation V., 55, 56.). This is manifestly confirmed by Jesus' message at the Synagogue at Nazareth near the onset of His Ministry when He read from Isaiah 61:1-2a.
This portion of Scripture is an undeniable offer of Jubilee (i.e., the Kingdom; viz., 'To set at liberty those that are bruised, to preach the acceptable Year of the LORD', Luk.4:18-19). Jubilee begins on the 10th day of the Jewish 7th Month (Lev.25:8-12). This corresponds to the Gregorian date of Monday, September 27, AD 27 according to astronomical computer calculation, 6 months after the first Passover of our LORD's Earthly Ministry (John 2:13). The beginning of the Ministry of Jesus the Christ seems to be firmly fixed by this data. The Sabbatical 'Clock' did not begin until Nisan 1, 1443 BC. Moses died, and Joshua crossed the Jordan in 1451 BC.
The Jubilee Count started when Israel entered the Promised Land. But the count started after 7 years of war that followed, from the year 1444 BC as the year the 12 Tribes divided the Land. Planting that Fall would have brought them to Spring 1443 BC for the 1st Harvest, thus the epoch of Sabbatical and Jubilee Years began then. The Sabbatical Cycles were synched to the agricultural cycles, the Solstices and Equinoxes, etc. Thus, the 1st Sabbatical Year began 6 years later 1 Nisan 1437 BC.
Then the 7th Sabbatical Cycle began 1 Nisan 1395 BC, thus the 1st Jubilee occurred on 10 Tishri 1395 BC. Regarding Jesus, He proclaimed the Year of Jubilee the subsequent year in 28 AD, being the 30th Jubilee beginning 1421 years later (29x49) on 10 Tishri 27 AD. This agrees with Floyd Nolen Jones, Bishop Lloyd, Monsignor Toinard, William Whiston, Josephus and Ussher. The 71st Jubilee occurred in 1988 and the 71st Jubilee will occur in 2036’.
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Here is the Online Link to the Moon Phases for July 2024.
https://www.moongiant.com/calendar/july/2024/
Bob, Ozzie, Stephan, Lu, thanks guys for your number/Scripture/astronomy/history crunching and shares. Also for the Laughs! Bob, sorry, much as I long for the Rapture SOON, I still land with Lu on 723. Partly this is b/c the Church age started with Pentecost, and while Jesus was an observant Jew, fulfilling all the feasts so far, the 70th week is about Israel, not the Church. Pentecost is the only "Feast" that pertains to us alone. Based on that alone, the logic for me is for a Pentecost end to the Church age. Not that my reasoning counts for anything. Just saying.
DeleteLyn, I was going to say something similar, but I can't top Ozzie's "Awwwe Lyn, suffice it to say, my heart is beating your way in these matters in the lives of your family, w/respect toward your oldest Brother ~ i'm praying grace sufficient, for you all, shalom ~ you know how we All feel about you, precious sister * LoVe" Praying for safe travels.
Sheila, your eyes must be impeding your contributions here. Know that you are missed and we pray for you. And the rest of you, fam, who are silent or remote these days. May God strengthen us all in body/soul/mind/spirit/heart and will! Maranatha. Love.
Thanks, Judi, but I’ve just been busy and kinda stressed out with my husband’s heart issues the past few weeks. I’ve been keeping up as much as possible, but I really don’t have anything to add that isn’t already being said. Mostly just Praying and hoping very much that His Return is much sooner than later.😊🙏⬆️
DeleteJudy, your SOooo nice, ty. Sheila, i truly love, Love, LOVE! jUDY, YOUR PRAYES FOR EVERYONE, ALWAYS MOVES ME SO DEEPLY ~ and on that note i want to ad that Lyns words of scripture as she spoke out w respect to her brothers n saying goodbye to them and to all believers who die in Christ, sent me sailing ~ kinda like Christopher Cross song, ''Sailing'' does to me whenever i hear him sing it! YES, Miracles abound \!/ Peace n Serenity to all ~
DeleteWell, Sheila B., Blessings
DeleteOn the note of adding something not yet said, CoolKat has continued gnawing the bone over on Clapper which I don't follow but appreciate his diligent chase. Unlike the rest of the YTC watchers who uniformly move on to the next target, as detailed in his recent new Live, KC has pressed more deeply into the SAME STORY which Our Lord Has Been Unfolding Thus Far, Amazingly. So, he 'just happened' across another YTC teaching a detailed look at Scriptural astronomy revealing that the 24th day of the 9th month on the Divine Calendar was this past 19th-ish of January. Continuing with the 8-day patterns uncovered so far in the SAME tale, this now pins our Rescue to 1/27 as detailed in Haggai 2:23.
There's your 'sooner rather than later' marker and it emerges from 50+ lives and 100+ video teachings, spanning over 400 hours and focused ENTIRELY on digging into the Word of God and NOTHING else, following a direct, linear path of unpacking THE SAME STORY, all along these past 23 months, again, uniquely in the watcher community we follow; No D&V's, no asteroids named 'child', no 'direct Words From The Lord' scribbled on paper, no Jewish feast and magical marker day counts, none of it. Just 2 years of 'Voyage To The Bottom of the Sea' of Scripture Written By Him Who Created The Languages Enabling Him To Wonderfully Craft The Tale, amen. Solo Scriptura! Proverbs 25:2; Habakkuk 2:3.
Shalom
nicely stated Jimboni and as you know Jaco points to tomorow 1/25,.... its all a part, of our guessing game ~ Maranatha!* time will tell , as the clock ticks on and on
DeleteOh, you blessed saints--you are so wonderful to me.
DeleteAs I finished packing, I received a phone call and was told that my brother had just passed on to be with the Lord. Fortunately, we had a loving relationship so no regrets in not making it to his side beforehand.
Sheila, dear dear Sister. Will be praying for you and your hubby.
Praise God for His goodness is neverending.
Love you all💞
Lyn...may your brother "rest in peace". Hopefully we'll be seeing him soon!
DeleteAmen! Thank you Bob 😊 💓
DeleteOh Lyn…my condolences, Sister, but so grateful as the BOC that we all have the assurance that our believing loved ones who go before us will also be raised up before us for that joyful reunion in the air with our Lird and Savior.
DeletePaul D’s video today was so touching as he perfectly expressed with his own tears this longing in our hearts to get Home with Jesus.
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Our LORD and Savior😊
DeleteVery sorry, Lyn, about your brother. Glad he’s with Jesus. Praise God.
DeletePraying for Billy, Sheila B. Definitely🙏.
TY all so much for your prayers. Most valuable asset we can be gifted with in this world is the prayers of our fellow Saints.🥰🙏
DeleteDear Lyn, I am so sorry! All my condolences my sister! I had just posted a comment above before reading here. Sheila, your husband is in my prayers too!
DeleteLyn, I am so sorry for your loss. Praying for comfort and peace for you and your family. Sheila, praying for you and for Billy as well.
DeletePaul Dawson @RevelationChapter12dotcom has a new 22 min video up today:
ReplyDelete“Something Big is Coming”
Thank you Sheila, watching this video, it's great, all things are explained! Come, Lord Jesus!
DeleteAlla, Sheila, i like you both soooo MUCH, YOU BOTH MAKE MY HEART HAPPY, cain't weight to listen to Paul, y'all :)
DeleteBIG NEWS FAMILY!
ReplyDeleteRAPTURE SOON SOON SOON!
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/texas-governor-declares-federal-government-has-broken-the-compact-with-the-states-invokes-invasion-clause-asserts-right-to-self-defense
"The formal, official groundwork is now laid for actual Civil War inside the United States. The Governor of Texas has declared, in writing, that the federal government has "broken the compact" with the states. He announced he has invoked the "Invasion" clause of the Constitution and says Texas has a right to self defense which it will enforce with the Texas National Guard. "
In The Revelation 12 Galactic Federation. . . I shared “The Message for America” wherein Dumitru Duduman revealed what the angel of the Lord told him:
He said, "Remember this, Dumitru. The Russian spies have discovered where the nuclear warehouses are in America. When the Americans will think that it is peace and safety - from the middle of the country, some of the people will start fighting against the government. The government will be busy with internal problems. Then from the ocean, from Cuba, Nicaragua, Mexico,,.." (He told me two other countries, but I didn't remember what they were.) "...they will bomb the nuclear warehouses. When they explode, America will burn.
WHEN THE MISSILES COME DOWN WE GO UP!!!
cain't wait to git up there Lyn, i will chase you till i catch you to hug YOU *
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Thanks Lyn! This is really great! Tony, you are extreme great, waiting for your posts always!
DeleteI Love n care about you Alla, immensely! You are so kind and so very sweet!! Heaven was made for you ~
DeleteRE: Suffering and Sorrow
ReplyDeleteI took a look at Brother Paul’s video and can relate to the Anguish of wanting to be in Glory and have one’s Body be Transformed to finally be with Jesus, Face-to-Face. This World is coming unhinged and is Ripe for Judgment. The level and the degree of debauchery and reprobate minds is beyond comprehension. For example, our State University System in California had a Faculty Union Strike for better Pay, etc.
So, last Monday they staged a Walk-Out on the 1st Day of Classes. One can emphasize with them that the Starting Salary for a PhD Professor is not enough to live in this part of California, much less with one’s Staff Salary. So what happened? As they were at the street corners of the main Entrances of the University, a Man in a Tesla came up to some of the Faculty Members and Pepper Sprayed them. Then a few of the Gen Z Youth from the Area drove by and shot Paint-Balls at them. All for No Reason.
Mind you, this is a Rural Northern California University Town that is relatively ‘Safe’. And to have this happen, just because? It reminded me of Elisha and those Youth that made fun of his Baldness and the Bears came out to maul them. But realize that as the Hebrews were Suffering and in Agony about their Bondage and Captivity in Egypt, their Liberation was contingent upon the Sin of the Amorites reaching a certain Full Measure and Threshold, not 1 Day sooner or Later.
‘The Sin of the Amorites has not yet reached its full measure’. Genesis 15:16
One can compare this present Evil World that has been the Church Age for nearly 2000 Years as a Captivity of sort. Is it any Wonder, why in 2024, the Final Great American Eclipse will ‘X-Out’ the USA? But it is the Bride, like the 2 Fish of the Pisces in the Sign of the Stars, that have been Bound by those Chords. Presently she is Bound by Cetus the Sea Dragon. But in turn, it has been the Fish People, i.e., the Followers of the Great Fisherman that have also Restrained the Sea Dragon, Lucifer in this Present Evil World. It will not be until the Level of Sin reaches a Full Measure in the World, in the USA, like the Amorites, that the Liberation of the Sons of Light will occur, not 1 Day sooner or Later.
Below is an Excerpt of what one is researching and studying, that will be posted in a few other Articles that are intended to further develop the 120 Day Rapture Theory. And it is to give Solace to those yearning for the Liberation, i.e., the Rapture that based on this Prophetic Typology of when the Walls of Jerusalem would completed, in correlation to the 483 Year Factor (69 Weeks of Years x 7 Sabbaths of Time) of Daniel’s Prophecy, then take heart that 2024 could be the Year the Bride’s Building is completed!
Keep the Watch
Lu
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‘The other Royal Decree that is pertinent to the Rebuilding of the Wall of Jerusalem that also incorporates the 483 Year Factor has to do with Suleiman, the Muslim Ottoman. If one considers the Year that the Walls were completed, as much as they were during Nehemiah’s Time, then the following Year Count becomes very interesting. According to Research, the Wall of Jerusalem during the Muslim Ottoman Occupation was from 1537 to 1541. If one factors in the 483 Years, from when the Wall was completed in 1541, then the following.
--------------> 1541 Wall Completed + 483 Prophetic Year Factor of Daniel = 2024 <--------------
Does this Equation and Calculus show in a Parallel Prophetic fashion, the ‘Walls’ of the Heavenly City, the Bride of Christ that Jesus has been building for nearly 2000 Year is the Year that she will be ‘completed’, just the same? But this is why one presents this Research, only as ‘Evidence’, not as Proofs. As to deducing the Pentecost of Acts 2 New Wine Event because of it?’
Lu...thanks for sharing what happened at your university. Being familiar with your area (upper middleclass type of folks) I'm really surprised that person in the Tesla pepper sprayed the faculty members and the local Gen Zer's shot paintballs at the staff. So sick, yet so common these days no matter where one lives! We're getting close to that Full Measure and Threshold, but I think we still have a ways to go. Perhaps as early as PPP, but it could very well be WWW...just as long as it happens in 2024!
DeleteFor your additional work/studies, the debate panel has agreed to strike your 3 point penalty for being "too wordy"! But if you exceed that 1000 word maximum limit next time, we won't be so generous! Lol!
he keeps bob, bob, bobbin' along! You n Lou are the
DeleteJesus, i tell ya! . . . are you guys the 2 witnesness or somethin'
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DeleteCount yer blessen's Lu,. . i'm countin' mine
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DeleteDear WWW-Lu,
ReplyDeleteThank you for your answer!
I agree with you, that the start of the Jubilee Count might be 7 years after Israel entered the Promised Land.
But I think you accepted my main point that the start of Jubilees is during the month of Nisan:
'The Zero-Clock start (Epoch) for the reckoning of Sabbatical Years and jubilees was Spring (Nisan 1), 1443 BC.‘
'Thus, the Jubilee and Sabbatical count would have begun in the Spring of the following year (1443) with the harvest of the 1st Cops (Lev.25:3, '6 years thou shalt … gather in the fruit thereof').‘
But if Jubilees are starting in the month of Nisan, why do you refer to Floyd Nolen Jones, who is counting from Autumn to Autumn?
You wrote that according to him, the 30.Jubilee began on Monday, September 27, AD and that this Date is fixed.
This would mean that the Crucifixion Year was 31 AD, 3,5 years later:
#Autumn 27 – Autumn 28 = 1. Year of Jesus’s ministry
#Autumn 28 – Autumn 29 = 2. Year of Jesus’s ministry
#Autumn 29 – Autumn 30 = 3. Year of Jesus’s ministry
#Autumn 30 – Spring 31 = last 6 months of Jesus’s ministry
So this doesn't match with your 32 AD Crucifixion Year.
Stephan,
DeleteGood Observations as usual. And I have to fix that Typo about Crops. But I just incorporated that Article in the Mix to validate that there is a Debate about when the Sabbath or Jubilee Counts started from. It is mainly that I liked the Idea that the Count did not start 'immediately' upon crossing the Jordan.
I was meaning to also note, but got too long in the Reply that I actually do not agree with the Notion of a Nisan or a 1st Month Start. I do lean more towards the Work and Perspective of Nolan. But over all, I believe the Count given of the Year Counts is off by 1 Year. But it is correct, based on the Year Count derived by their Calculations, it would be 31 AD, not a 32 AD Crucifixion Year...
Dear family, I am obliged to ask you again to pray for my husband and me. He moved his shoulder in a fall a few months ago, and the scan results show that the shoulder only has two wires the size of fishing line and he has constant pain, and for me , I'm pretty sure about the pneumonia I had. since November is still present. I have had 2 different antibiotics and 2 x-rays and am waiting for another one. I feel bad, my head hurts and I'm numb and I have a huge cough that has slowed down a bit for a while but is coming back with a vengeance. Which keeps me from sleeping and my husband too. My breathing isn't good either. I'm doing the x-ray Monday morning to see if it's still the case of pneumonia. There are no more options for antibiotics because of the allergies and I don't want an IV via syringe which is the last option if nothing cures. I'm exhausted from always being sick and I know you understand what it's like and that your health is in danger too. I don't know what's wrong with my lungs, we don't smoke, no wood stove, carpets, etc. And we haven't been vaccinated either. Thank you for those who pray.
ReplyDeletePraying you peace, comfort and great stamina, seasoned with grace, giving you both an inordinate deep seated gladness of heart with an amazing fearlessness in your spirits w full blown depth of understanding and Stronger than EVER FAITH and quickened with an ever sharp knowledge of the TRUTH and Vision of Father GOD in ALL HIS EVERLOVING GLORY! Perfect Peace, Complete Trust and Whole Hearted Security In Christ Jesus * love to you Carole n Daniel. Be Healed in Jesus name, amen n AMEN
DeleteDear ones, I so feel like creation: groaning to see the sons of God revealed (in the Rapture). Carole so very sorry for what you and Daniel are going through, and Billy/Sheila, and Alla/husband/son, Lyn and so many others. My son and daughter in law are on the brink of divorce--situation in their household totally untenable now--issues there for years and just reaching the breaking point. Broken bodies, broken spirits/minds, broken relationships; oh my. Come, Lord Jesus. In the meantime, the Holy Spirit restrains, through us. It may seem as if we're losing the battle, but we know the end: Jesus wins the war!
DeleteDear God, may You touch our bodies, touch our minds, touch our spirits with your mercy and grace. Bring healing, comfort, restoration and joy. Bring the peace, O Lord, of settling into Your perfect will, believing You have begun a good work and will not leave it undone. Cover us and hide us under the shadow of Your wings. Bring Hope for our time of need. Lord, I speak Jesus over my brothers and sisters here. Jesus Your Name is Power, Your Name is Healing, Your Name is Love. Help us to stand strong, shields lifted and swords raised. Breathe new life into struggling lungs, bring reconstruction to broken bodies, bring divine wisdom to doctors, bring comfort to the grieving, and divine intervention to broken relationships. Save us, O Lord, for in You do we trust. There is None other. Even so, Come Lord Jesus. Amen
Praying Carole for you and Daniel and for all of us as Judi covers so well. Amen and Amen to that precious Prayer! May He grant us all with strong faith, good courage, sound minds, and bodily strength and ready hearts to serve him when and wherever we can.🙏
DeleteRE: A June Pentecost? Ah, No. ;0
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Ozark,
Ah, one sees. You are referring to the Traditional June Pentecost, of the 1st 50 Day Count after Passover that Rabbinical Jews and All Christians also celebrate? No Problem, but one does not hold to that Interpretation. :) For about the last 4-5 Years or so, one has introduced what one deemed the ‘Double-Count’ Theory. Meaning that the Leviticus 23:16, in most Translations, is a very Bad one that does not clearly delineate a ‘Counting’ of 7 Sabbaths or 49 Days, and then ‘Number’ 50 Days thereafter. See Article for Details.
#352: PENTECOST DOUBLE-COUNT
GRAFTING-IN OF THE GENTILES
Place and Time Marker of Resurrection and Rapture
https://www.postscripts.org/ps-news-352.html
Note the following ‘Better Translations’ below that allude to an additional 50 Day Count. And it is not said to just count the 50th Day, but a 50 Day Count. One believes that there has been a deliberate ‘Confusion’ and Watering-Down of the Original Hebrew to Obfuscate what occurred in Acts 2. This is at least how one has Interpreted the Passage. Thus, it is a total of a 99-Day Count from the Sunday, the Day after the Resurrection that one also surmises was on a Sabbath, before Sunset. This is, if indeed Jesus was Crucified in the Midst or that Wednesday of the Passion Week as one has argued also.
CHRISTIAN STANDARD BIBLE
You are to count fifty days until the day after the seventh Sabbath and then present an offering of new grain to the LORD.
CONTEMPORARY ENGLISH VERSION
Do this exactly 50 days later, which is the day following the seventh Sabbath.
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DeleteSo, realize that one is going against 99.99% of the Brethren and nearly 2000 Years of Church Tradition here with these Theories. ;0. But in researching and developing the Theory, it is, one believes corroborated with the Day Count from the Exodus. See the Sinai Pentecost Article below for Details.
#609: SINAI PENTECOST
CALENDAR CALCULATIONS
Determining the End of the Church Age
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Realize that the Israelites had not even reached the Foot of Mount Sinai on June 3rd when the Rabbinical Jews celebrate ‘Shavuot’ or what Christians erroneously call ‘Pentecost’. What the Jews have done is to just say they ‘Commemorate’ the Giving of the Law at Sinai in the 1st 50 Day Count from that Day after Passover, etc. And this is not even the case, as the Rabbinical Jews actually start the Count on Nisan 15, the Day they left Egypt on the Exodus, and not as Leviticus prescribes to be the Day after the Sabbath. Here is 1 Contention in that the Question is ‘Which Sabbath?
The Leviticus Protocol clearly prescribes it being the Weekly Sabbath or a Sunday. But the Rabbinical Jews avoid this Direct Christian Association as to not give the Christian Faith any Credence. Thus, they defer and interpret the Sabbath after to be from the Passover, as that is Technically a High-Day Sabbath, all the same, thus, Nisan 15, etc. This is called, Counting the Omer.
The Point is that the 99th Day, on the Exodus Timeline, see Chart in Sinai Pentecost Article, corresponded to the Feast of ‘New Wine’. And? This was the Day, in which the Golden Calf Incident occurred and 3000 Perished that Day. This is when one correlates the Acts 2 Pentecost, the 2nd Counting of the 50 Day Interval that corresponded to when the Rebellion occurred at Sinai. But in this case, 3000 got Saved to ‘Reverse the Curse’ of Sinai, etc. And this was the occasion that the Dispensation from being ‘Under the Law’, to being ‘Under the Law of Christ’, or Grace.
Then in subsequent Research, it was found out that in fact, there were 3 Feasts, 50 Days apart of the following. These were the Minor Feasts of the First Fruits of the New Grain, New Wine and New Oil, etc. This is also where one correlates the Day Count from Nisan 15 that by so doing, a 99 Day Count lands on that July 23rd Date. Then 50 Days later is September 11th. Coincidence? No. Thus, the Point is that the Traditional Celebration of what the Rabbinical Jews call ‘Shavuot’ in June or the 3rd Month of Sivan, is just a Demarcation of a Period of a 50 Day Count.
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DeleteIt is the same with the Word, ‘Pentecost’ in that in the Greek, it means the same, that of a 50 Day Count. But that Shavuot of the Jews is not the Pentecost of the Christians. Or to specify that the June 3 Sivan Shavuot celebrated there and then and how the Christian Church still considers it ‘Pentecost’, is erroneous based on one’s Research. One could be wrong, but the Evidence has been spelled-out in the Book one compiled to explain it. One is not sure if one made that Book available to the Community here. Here it is in PDF Format in the End-Notes.
But one does not judge those that still consider Pentecost, just the 50th Day after Passover Weekend. It is ‘Technically’ True. But it is only corresponding to the Feast of the First Fruits of the New Wheat Grain Offering. The Evidence of why the Acts 2 Pentecost was and is in Mid-July, July 23 specifically, is that the New Wine of Acts 2 inferred, could not have been even ready as the 1st Fruits back in Early June. It would have been and is ‘Agriculturally Impossible’ for that to have occurred.
Hope all this sheds some Light into why one was assuming a July New Moon for the Acts 2 Pentecost Anniversary, on a July 23 ‘Leo’ New Year and that of the New Wine, etc. But this Pentecost New Wine Supposition is only now believed by literally a Handful of Brethren in the entire 8 Billion World Population…Myself, Tyler, Dr. Awe, a few others perhaps. And even then, Tyler and Dr. Awe believe the New Wine Event of Acts 2 was and is on the 9th of Av, which one does not agree with.
Keep the Watch,
Lu Vega
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PENTECOST NEW WINE
Summer White Wheat Wedding
The purpose of this Book is to provide a Compilation of Articles over several Years of ‘Discovery into the Journey of Identifying where and when the True Count of Leviticus 23:15-16 occurred, i.e., the Feast of New Wine, precisely at a 99th Day Count. The challenge that his Book tackles is what is the Start Date? Why? This initial Start Date will determine the exact Day in which the Feast of New Wine, and thus the Pentecost of Acts 2 occurred. The Book will present Evidence that there are at least 3 main Theories based on differing Calendar Start Dates.
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LuMan, boy does this EVER shed light, TY kindly!, for this and for being so hospitable n approachable, the way you are, a real gem of guy! ^ Alan @ Ministry Revealed was coming across like this, esp. last year and somehow i thought it was in connection w/ Hezekiah and a 2nd passover? Now i'm onto it and plan to delve in. I can't thank you enough, have a great day Brother! (Alan calls his flock, the Fourteeners)
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Israel isn’t required to stop the war. Hamas was demanded to release ALL hostages!
Israel isn’t even ordered to allow the population back to their homes.
The corrupt South African ANC government better invest its money on better endeavors!
The judge who sided with Israel in all the votes in the Hague procedure: Julia Sebutinde from Uganda
Sebutinde is used to fighting for justice. About 20 years ago, she received the nickname "Lady Justice" in her homeland after a series of actions to reduce the phenomenon of corruption in the country.
(Nathy Langerman)
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The crisis with Turkey worsens: Turkish Airlines cancels all its flights to Israel until further notice.
(Israel HaYom)
Hamas is disappointed and bitter: they received nothing, no ceasefire, no return of terrorists to the evacuation areas, no sanctions, and they are ordered to immediately return all the abductees.- Amir Tsarfati
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