Urgent Prophecy Update - JD Farag

Hello siblings in Christ...  When JD Farag puts up an URGENT prophecy update, I think you need to be aware of it...  It is about twice as long as his normal updates and he spends a lot of time talking about the 70 year anniversary of Israel's rebirth in a few days (May 14th) and other Middle East events.
Here is the video (77  minutes):

Additionally...Greg Lauer has a new article out I haven't mentioned yet.... It is titled:
Watch Is the Word
There is a fringe group today that has twisted the word "watch" into something far different from what the Bible teaches.

Here is the link:

Stephanie Dawn from Red Moon Rapture also continues to be very busy lately putting up several important articles. Here are her recent posts you may want to check out over the weekend...

Red Moon Rapture - Recent Posts


  1. Beautiful summary, as always, of where we are in time. Look Up - Our Redemption Draws Nigh! Blessings - Sherry

    1. Amen Sherry! Exactly my thoughts, be very blessed! Maranatha!

  2. If anyone is (still) interested in a more detailed description of the "DAYS OF LOT" in Sodom, I found it today very interesting to have our modern world's ethics and behaviour exactly mirrored by the reports and stories in the BOOK OF JASHER. Yes, indeed. Perhaps this is another hint for RedMoonRapture Stephanie... ? (chapters 18-19)

    First of all, people in the Sodom region would gather 4 times a year in a great excessive orgy (probably feasts of the seasons?) in the green plains nearby - I imagine some sorts of Woodstock or Burning Man festivals. During these feasts, every man would fornicate with the wife of his neighbour and virgin daughters (i.e. adultery, fornication, child rape = "pedogate"!). It wasn't only homosexual behaviour. It was EVERY kind of fornication we currently know on this planet, too.

    Secondly, strangers were treated exceedingly bad which is really unusual especially throughout the Middle East. A foreign merchant that came into Sodom would be robbed completely from all the inhabitants, and if he complained, people would show him the little piece every single one had stolen from him, saying: I only took that little which you gave (!) me and the robbed merchant would leave the city in sorrow and bitterness. This reminds me of our own economic system, taxes, plundering and other kind of recklessness (e.g. if EVERY neighbour in your street does the barbecue 2 times a week during summer and you are completely socked in by the smoke every night from all sides and you ask him to turn the barbecue off, him answering: well I've done it 2 times only this week! Same with dog owners and the dog poop etc... For the individual, the action is little - but you are "robbed" by the masses and even your own country's law does allow this so you cannot complain!)

    A third very well known strange behaviour of the people of Sodom was this: They used to hurt and injure people and simultaneously asked to heal/cure them by being payed a certain amount of money. Now what comes into our mind instantly today... ? Well, you will know better than me with all these chemtrailing, vaccines and what not else of intoxication you pay with your own taxes. It's the same when countries like mine sell missiles to other countries the same as they then promote high-tech prostheses or a cure of disease / surgery in their modern hospital. It's just extremely cynical. That's what the "days of Lot" were, too.

    Furthermore, the Sodomites would even kill their own people if those felt mercy towards strangers the inhabitants treated badly. Even one of Lot's daughters (he had more than just the two that escaped with him) was a victim of the people of Sodom - and their corrupt judges would sentence them to death for showing mercy. In any case, the Sodomites were completely brutal and merciless towards especially the poor and needy but they would the same ruthlessly act against their own, not only towards strangers. Don't we have the same situation today? The price for a living in the green Jordan valley must have been really high for Lot. I can hardly understand how he still could dwell there as a BELIEVER (!) but obviously he endured it instead of leaving this wicked place (and we know the results!).

    Anyway, I wanted to let you know that the apocrypha books - and especially Jasher here - provide with some extra information on the ancient "days of Noah and Lot" which complement Jesus Christs remark and prophecy in Luke 17:26-32 even more than just by taking the (rather scarce) description of times given in the book of Genesis. These readings were again really enlightening today (together with the description of the first woman of Ishmail in chapter 21 which made me really LOL as I know this exact type of woman from among the Muslims around me in person, too)! :D

    Be blessed everyone, stay safe in Christ - Maranatha! :)

    1. Annabel, thank you. There is truly nothing new under the sun, and the import is in recognizing which pattern is being repeated, applying the context, and then seeing what The Spirit is showing us, as you have done, Maranatha!

    2. Also according to the Apocrypha, we find the most grievous sin of all committed in Sodom was the fornication of humans with fallen angels . . . again! We must surely wonder if this is not already going on again in our world today. I would not be surprised. ABBA UP! This world is not my home. Blessings - Sherry

    3. Annabel -- "These readings were again really enlightening today (together with the description of the first woman of Ishmail in chapter 21 which made me really LOL as I know this exact type of woman from among the Muslims around me in person, too)!"

      Is that the main thing you got from that chapter?

      There were two women mentioned- a bad wife and a good one.
      Today there are women, Muslim or otherwise who resemble Ishmael's first bad wife and also women, Muslim or otherwise, who resemble his second good wife.

      The moral of the story was not about the women though, it was about Ishmael, who behaved as a good obedient son.
      When his father told him to divorce the first wife , he did so.
      When his father praised the second wife, he was happy to have received that praise.

    4. @nafeesa no offense I indeed gotvthe message from the passage (despite the fact that divorce was NOT a divine concept from the very beginning so Ishmael would have had to keep the woman IF he would have been truly a godly man = Matthew 19:7-9). I know there's more to that passage, don't worry. It was just a quite personal note here and I apologize if it might have hurt your feelings as you perhaps don't have had the experience with such type of women or deny their existance today. Blessings to you!

    5. No problem Annabel-thanks for your reply

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    1. Thanks Justin for this thought about Prophetic Storm. I found also an interesting article about, from Hillary's FB, with her comment: The Coming Storm in Israel
      It's really storm, and we are very near! Maranatha!

    2. Very good article Alla D, it fits perfectly with JD Farag's key point, ""A Perfect Prophetic Storm is Forming..."

      I also just read Greg Lauer's article linked in the post. Very good study of the word "watch" and what it means in its biblical context. Clearly God's word doesn't indicate that we're supposed to figure out the exact date of the rapture (though I don't think it's wrong per se to pay attention to certain dates), but we're called to to look out, know we're in the season, and live our lives expectantly for His return, both internally and externally. Even so, I can't help but hope the coming week will have huge prophetic significance, and it would make a lot of sense to me if the rapture were to occur on the church's birthday next weekend for multiple reasons. If the rapture doesn't occur on Pentecost or May 14 or any other "high watch" date coming up, it won't change my watchful state and belief that His return is probably nearer than any of us imagine. On one hand I don't think it's necessarily wrong to look at certain dates and say, "Could this be it? Is God dropping clues for us?" (as long as we're not dogmatic about said dates), but on the other hand I don't want to cause others discouragement if these "high watch dates" aren't it. So that's where I'm at, just some honest thoughts on my current thinking. Regardless we indeed are very near, Maranatha!

    3. Thank you Justin, that's a perfect reflection of my stance and what I've been shown and led by Holy Spirit. It's either a Sign or the Event and we don't know and won't know until we get there! Either way its important and we're watching and sounding the alarm as we're instructed to do. Blessings - Sherry

    4. Excellent Justin... I am in a similar place as well. It's a balance to be sure...in your heart and in your head..... but He is with us in this (prophetic) storm. Blessings!

    5. Brad, Sherry, thanks so much to you and many others on this blog for your consistent encouragement! We're not perfect but we're a very good example of how the body is supposed to operate imo.

      For better or worse, should the Lord tarry until after this month, two other dates I will paying greater attention to are June 24 (from an article Brad featured a while back about 2,000 years on the Enochian calendar http://unravelations.weebly.com/this-is-big.html) and the Feast of Trumpets this year in September, technically the first since the Rev 12 sign. Beyond that I can't imagine there will be any other specific major dates on my radar, but who knows. Again, my hope in the Lord isn't based on whether our harpazo happens on particular days or not. I'm in this for the long haul, but in my spirit I know that we don't have very long to wait at all and I am watching regardless. It is indeed a balance. We'll find out soon enough, Maranatha!!

  4. Noticing some interesting articles and/or headlines at YNETNEWS.COM...

    Ivanka Trump & Jared Kushner arriving in Jerusalem 1 day prior to the opening of the US embassy, showing a little clip from the airport: what caught my eye was her tearing a trenchcoat resembling some casual IDF uniform! I don't think that ANY of the clothing of ANY of these public personalities is really coincidential.

    Furthermore, it is the 51st "Jerusalem Day" today... And Jews and Arabs again clashing on the Temple Mount singing and shouting against each other, visitors "violating rules of conduct" according to the police but no severe measurements taken against, the area is still open.

    It might be interesting to see what is yet to happen during the day in Jerusalem. Eyes focused - MARANATHA!

    1. The total count of Jews going up to the Temple Mount today in the 4 1/2 hour window they are allowed to do so - 2084. Is it 2,000 years of Church age ending + 42 Months of first half + 42 months of 2nd half of Tribulation? Just curious about the number.

  5. Hi @all, another very dangerous development unobservedly seething at the opposite side of the globe: VENEZUELA'S NEW 'GULF WAR' SCENARIO! Breaking news! (click and watch closely, highly interesting about what might happen there around May 20th) as well as the Iraqi election possibly turning out with a Pro-Iranian leadership in Baghdad, forcing to withdraw US military from the country and leaving another occasion to strenghten Iranians in war position towards USA and Israel: Low turn out in Iraq vote; Partial results put Pro-Iran candidate in lead (debkafile) (to be decided until Tuesday). The latest BPEarthWatch video showing footage how US paper flags were burnt and trampled onto inside the Iranian PARLIAMENT speak its own drastic language...

    Well, rapture appointed or not for tomorrow - next week might be really going down to the wire now... (even for brother JD) Highest watch time ever!!

  6. Happy Mother’s Day to all the Sisters celebrating that today!
    Many Blessings for you and yours:-)

  7. Great video i seen it when he put it out the other day ! Maranatha !

    1. I just have to share this little tidbit.
      On this day in 1938 Jazz was born with Trumpeteer Louis Armstrong’s rendition of “When the Saints Go Marching In”. Just thought that was neat as we Saints are listening for the sound of that Trumpet to call us Home:-)

    2. Thanks Sheila - Perfect opportunity to give you a link to a favorite version of mine -https://youtu.be/SIixmgj9MYY
      I particularly love and recommend David Phelps because he is not only a fabulous musician and composer, but his songs always "Preach the Gospel".
      Blessings - Sherry

    3. Amen thank you for sharing that sister Sheila and Sherry !

    4. TY Sherry. I’ll check it out.

  8. Happy Mother's Day to all you wonderful mothers. Each each of you in one way or another has nurtured somebody in a motherly way or bless you. Maranatha

  9. Annabel I saw this last night. ... aweful. Reminds me of the verse that says that the nation's rage Lord bless you

  10. https://youtu.be/6eLrfp2VGV0 The Rocks and Stones Cry Out. Do the signs in the heavens
    ( Mazzaroth ) have geographic counter parts ( signs in the earth ) ?

  11. Perhaps this one is of interest, too: The global ist plan was always the goal to trust the world into war (and to hasten the coming of the false Messiah?) I didn't watch the video yet, but will. Just FYI, God is in control of it all, MARANATHA!

    1. After having watched, it is a MUST SEE indeed to understand how the conspiracy on Iran was planned and why it took so long to work out. During the following week, full war outbreak between Israel and Iran is expected...

  12. There's an interesting article in Jaco's FB today, a bit strange for me.
    And I found also video – IS THIS An Alien Satellite In Deep Space?
    And INN news: Trump: Iran tried to take over the Middle East
    Bolton: Sanctions possible on European companies that trade with Iran
    Rivlin: Time to move ministries to Jerusalem
    It seemes this is a very time for the Lord to come for His Bride! Maranatha!

    1. And also The Times of Israel: IDF gears up for mass Gaza riots, warns that Hamas plans to ‘massacre’ Israelis – https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-gears-up-for-mass-gaza-riots-warning-hamas-plans-to-massacre-israelis/
      Prophetic alert! Maranatha! Isaiah 52:1-2 (KJV)
      Awake, awake; put on thy strength, O Zion;
      put on thy beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city:
      for henceforth there shall no more come into thee
      the uncircumcised and the unclean.
      Shake thyself from the dust;
      arise, and sit down, O Jerusalem:
      loose thyself from the bands of thy neck,
      O captive daughter of Zion.

    2. Alla dear sister, did you refer to Jaco Prinsloos FB entry on 'I, Pet Goat 2'? Perhaps this might be a follow up on his analysis, as the <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/14/al-qaida-leader-jihad-us-embassy-move-jerusalem>Al Quaida leader Al-Zawahiri calls for djihad on eve of US embassy move to Jerusalem</a> (click!) --- watch as well what I have posted above on the "globalists plan to thrust the world into war on the Iran issue" (conspiracy revealed). Anyway, their plans will now most probably be nullified by the rapture / resurrection which will bring the true "desaster", the tribulation period. Satan can plan and plot a lot of things he knows but he cannot "plan" sth like the rapture no one has ever experienced before and only God knows the consequences of this event. MARANATHA! Abba, up!

    3. Great thanks Annabel for you explanation! Amen! Maranatha!

  13. So, I'm very interested to see what will happen today. Will there be like a ceremony for the opening of the US embassy. I wonder if Iran wil attack Israel tonight.

    1. Hamas has opted for a Jewish Massacre so wouldn’t surprise me if Iran sees how that plays out first

    2. The ceremony will be 4pm local time (that would be 9am EST, 6am PST, etc).


    3. It's very interesting in The Times of Israel – ‘You have made history’: Netanyahu hails Trump at Jerusalem embassy opening. A quote: "'You can only build peace upon truth,' PM says at ceremony… Addressing Kushner and Ivanka Trump, he said, “Your presence here today is a testament to the importance of this occasion,” and thanked them for their “pursuit of peace.” …"
      In video at Jerusalem embassy opening, Trump stresses commitment to peace
      INN – Nasrallah threatens 'heart of Israel' over attacks on Syria
      Hamas: Gaza death toll rises to 52 "… More than 1,200 have been wounded."
      Liberman: Continue to act with determination at Gaza border
      PA declares day of mourning…
      Thanks and blessings to all Watchmen! Maranatha!

    4. There's Amir's Special Update on US Embassy Move to Jerusalem, in FB, probably soon in YT. https://www.facebook.com/beholdisrael/videos/1706960419394029/

  14. OK. So we're still here. Brother John at "Watchman for that great day" was early again with his assumption for 5/14 (but I love his fervour and excitement!). What could be next to watch?

    Oh, look at this: I think Jeff P got a glimpse of how the 2Thess2-deception will soon play out, revealing Revelation 12:7-9? Very interesting!! (click!) We. Are. Close. MARANATHA.

    1. Fitting into the 'Grand Deception' scheme, Pete Garcia has another good insight on the "Great Man Theory" (Omegaletter) which is not really a theory anymore, actually... MARANATHA!

  15. Daily Crow just put up a photo showing "A ray of light strikes the seal of the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem as Deputy Secretary of State John J. Sullivan, leader of President Donald Trump’s delegation, delivers remarks." Quite an eye for detail, the picture of the light on the seal of the U.S. eerily mirrors the path of the recent Great American Eclipse, as shown on The Daily Crow's post. Tell-Tale signs? Maranatha!

    1. Jimboni, while I was reading over the Seals of Revelation 6 I got to thinking about all the hoopla around the unveiling of the Great Seal of the USA at the Embassy yesterday.
      I felt like there might be some connection there so I pulled up the gem value on “The Great Seal of the United States of America in Jerusalem”. It was just another one of those hmm.... moments as I remembered what you posted the other day about the treacherous dealer of Is.21:2-4.
      E/G#3180–methodeia—travelling over i.e travesty, (trickery):—
      wile, lie in wait.
      And there again, maybe just a coincidence.
      Still thinking about a possible connection between the unveiling of the US Seal at the Embassy and the unveiling of the seals of Rev.6.
      Let me know if something tickles your thoughts there.
      Blessings and Maranatha:-)

    2. Jimboni, it was especially noticeable during Kushner’s speech. There’s something that doesn’t seem right with that guy...

    3. Brian, I didn’t know if it was just me or not, but in watching that speech I told my husband, look at the guy, something isn’t right about him. His facial structure is very odd when he talks. Almost like a mask. If you drew the right lines and had some strings,
      he might look like a marionette or something. I dunno, but there is imo something weird there.

  16. To be honest, it's getting awkward now.

    After watching and waiting for years I know that things can continue this way for dozens of years to come. What happens right now in Israel isn't really that significant. Palestinians continue to riot, countries in the Middle East continue to bark like puppies.

    Future 'signs' don't mean that much either. We've seen the biggest ones in recent history with the moving of the embassy, declaring Jerusalem as Israels capital, etc.

    A future alignment of the stars doesn't mean anything to me anymore. And if Abbas says something 'threatening' about Israel again, I'll probably laugh and say: same story, different day.

    It's getting late in this world, but I think God isn't done here yet. He probably wants to make sure He won't miss any detail, which might take a couple of more years.

    I'd say skip those details and hurry up. It's really getting awkward and annoying.

    1. 'Hurry up' with WHAT, Thomas?

    2. 'What happens right now in Israel isn't really that significant.' Well, I've actually heard that reporting from even inside the US community just yesterday - which makes it even MORE significant to me as even those directly involved in bible prophecy are totally deaf and blind towards its historically relevance and prophetic importance! When Jesus Christ was born, nobody would notice at all but some poor shepherds in the field awakened to the event by angels and even 2 years later the official worshipping event by the few magi from abroad occured unnoticed largely but yet accompanied by the child murder of Herod who seemed to be the only one pretty aware of a real 'threat' to his reign and position back then.

      In fact, your statement is just mirroring perfectly what all (!) biblical records always express when it comes to the very importance of some highly prophetic event for GOD in contrast to the (lack of) acknowledge of MEN. MARANATHA!

    3. I agree with Annabel. Thomas, I am not sure if there is pain and anger behind your words, because I do not know you, but there is doubt and disrespect to the Creator of the universe, Who will come exactly when it is time to come at the perfect time. He never fails. He spoke us into being. His voice is as thunder and the beginning of wisdom is to fear Him. Thomas, trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding.

    4. Hurry up with the Rapture.

      Just get it over with. What else needs to happen? The peace plan of Trump... Ah, I forgot that one... They're planning on announcing that plan 'soon', which is... days, weeks, months? Who knows. If The Lord is going to wait for that, He's giving people way too much credit. If Trump decides to announce it a couple of days later, then The Lord has to wait for that? I don't think that's how it's working.

      All I'm saying is that we've just passed another highly significant watch date, without any significant event, besides the opening of the US embassy in Jerusalem. But that was already planned. It's just same stuff, different day when it comes to these Palestinians. They just keep barking. Why not wipe the Palestinians off the map? I mean what are they going to do anyway? We've seen that the ME is one big joke. They bark, they don't do anything.

      "...the Creator of the universe, Who will come exactly when it is time to come at the perfect time."

      70 years seems like a perfect time to me. We've now entered the 'by reason of strenght' years. It means that we could be here for another 10 years. Really, 'we' don't know anything. We think we know, but as we've seen in the past couple of months, we actually don't know anything.

      I'm not being disrespectful to The Creator. I'm just being real here. It's getting late, and again, it's getting awkward. To the point where we can almost ignore upcoming signs, because oh well... Same story, different day; nothing's going to happen anyway.

    5. Thomas, I just have to say you sound like me right before God answers my frustrated prayers. Honestly. This is your opportunity to press in to Him and tell Him with reverence how hard this is and ask Him what, how and why?

      Thomas, I know you are not the only one who feels this frustration, so I encourage you to read Psalm 10.

      In verse 14 I see a picture of the Lord holding the wicked in His hand the same way a person takes a bug in his hand before he tosses it out.

      In verse 17 I see the Lord responding to our hurt. He will strengthen our hearts.

      There are so many more encouragements in His word. Find those. Read them. Whatever is pure...

    6. Agree in all, Miguel! My thoughts are also the same! And my affliction in addition. Thomas, please be encouraged! Discouragement is highly dangerous for us, we are already in fight here all the time! I have a sermon on Habakkuk by Sir William Robertson Nicoll (1851-1923), he says about Habakkuk 2:3:
      "The word "wait" is the one word which the Divine wisdom often seems to utter, in rebuke of human impatience. God is never in haste. In Holy Scripture men are often counselled to wait; to wait upon God, to wait for God; language which supposes delay and the need of patience. … Heb 10:36-37 … Waiting with humility, waiting with patience, waiting for God—this is the state of the Christian."
      The Lord awakened us and brought us together here so that we could wait Him in patience and encouragement. He's already on he way for us! Much blessings!

    7. Thomas, we feel your frustration for most of us have lived it to some degree. When we've placed our eggs in one "date" basket that seemed perfect in our human mind and it didn't occur the disappointment is very difficult. This is why most here have tried so assiduously to say to everyone - know this . . . these dates are important for Watchmen to sound the alarm . . . because we do not know if a date, which appears profound in its implications, is a sign or the event itself. It is not our job to know, only to sound the alarm.

      The western mind is bent on control and God will not ever be controlled. We love dearly our order, our predictability, our schedules and our CONTROL. You indicate there is nothing yet to accomplish in the ME and jeer at Abbas and at Trump's peace plan. I assure you God sees all our plans and laughs for He is the scheduler, He is the controller and those schedules and controls have been laid out before time on this earth ever began. He knew you'd pitch this hissy fit today and He loved you anyway. He knew about the ones we've all pitched in our own minds before and He loved us anyway. Here is what I have been convicted about in this area and I pray it helps you in some way.

      I was waiting and watching in years past, but I was no longer occupying. I had decided in my own infinite wisdom I did not have enough time to complete the projects I knew He'd laid on my heart to do so I said, what's the point and sat and waited - watching and putting everything on hold for certain dates. When those came and went I was crushed. Finally, He allowed me to see I was to watch and occupy simultaneously. God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent and He really isn't concerned about my finishing a project, nearly so much as He is concerned about my obedience in trying to finish - in doing what He instructed me to do. If I am finishing (occupying) rather than watching the pot waiting for it boil, the pot is important but it is no longer my sole focus. Time passes by more quickly, I learn more about His nature and character and I am pleasing My Father because I am simply being obedient WHILE WATCHING.

      It's like the 2 year old who wants a treat, but has a really messy, toy strewn room. You tell that toddler you may have your treat when you've picked up your toys and put them away but not before. The 2 year old is already exhibiting the sin nature we all possess and he will stamp his little feet and yell no at the top of his lungs because he wants the treat first. If Mom loves that child even a fraction as much as God loves us, she'll make sure he learns obedience before reward.

      Anytime we find ourselves in a difficult situation, the first thing we should ask is, "Father, what can I learn from this situation you've allowed that I could not have learned without it?" When we stop and ask, we can learn the lesson more quickly and leave the classroom He's brought about to instruct us with. Ask Him what He wants you to see today? Perhaps there are some toys that need to be put away - it's different for everyone of us. But, what we cannot ever allow ourselves to do is to question the nature and character of God. He is always right in every situation . . . especially when WE DECIDE . . . He's missed a turn or missed an opportunity! Occupy . . . be about His business . . . time will fly by and before you know it you'll hear the voice, like the sound of the Trumpet and we'll go home. Make it light on yourself in the meantime . . . just Trust Him . . . He's got this covered! Blessings - Sherry

    8. Amen Alla, Bless you sister! And no matter how afflicted, troubled, sickened, persecuted we are, it is nothing, nothing at all compared to the joy we will have in His presence. And what a joy to suffer for Him!

    9. Hi, Thomas

      I can relate (to a certain extent) to what you are feeling, but I think the way you phrase it is disrespectful towards God. I believe He has a certain set-out plan, he is not waiting on Trump (or any person) to do something. God already knows what is happening when. WE don't know. Yes, we guess, but is our want and way above that of God? No, of course not. We know the tibbits that God reveals to us. That's it. With time I'm certain we will learn more and here after I guess we will see the final picture and just why God planned it the way it was/is.

      I also (with all my heart) wish it is sooner than later. Every night when I go to sleep I wonder if I'll wake up with THE trumpet call and every day I wake up, I wonder if this will be the day. And I do feel somewhat disappointed if a day goes passed and nothing.....
      But, I do not think it is wise of me to hurry up God or to question His plan. This is in any case all about Him, not us. If we are indeed entering the year-of-strength (which I really hope is not the case) so be it. We just have to keep praying for strength, courage, determination to keep on going and the keep on cleaving onto Him.

      I think that is way many council against date-setting, because when it comes and goes we feel very despondent. But I think it is our human nature that we want to know. We, after all, want to go home.

      Last night I opened the Bible at a random place, I think it was somewhere it Corinthians, and these words jumped out: Watch ye, stand fast in the faith, be strong.

      Pray to God and ask Him to comfort you. Blessing to you.
      Ps. Sorry for the long post.

    10. Amen Andrea! Thank you very much! We are blessed already and will be blessed very soon with the Lord Himself! Maranatha!

    11. Andrea, imo we've already entered "the years of strenght" but take heart Sis, I don't think so that we'll have to wait plus 10 years, only 2-3 years max.! The most likely starting point of the "fig tree generation" is the birth of the state of Israel (in 1947/48) but the ending point of it is not the rapture, it's the Second Coming! (As the Lord said, *all these things have to happen and be witnessed* by that final generation and that includes the tribulation period and His return.) 1948 plus 80 years (of strenght) is 2028 which is the latest possible year for the Second Coming on this timeline. 2028 minus 7 years is 2021 aka the latest possible year for the rapture to happen. I could be wrong but my gut feeling says that we won't have to wait even until 2021! This year is still full of possibilities. :--)

    12. Amen, Sherry, this occupy thing is kinda funny. I mean I have some real projects right now, things that could take me quite a while, so I do hope i don't have a chance to finish them. ;-).

      And then to think about the very real possibility that in the coming months these things around me will be leveled, flooded, burned, bombed and pounded with 100 pound hail. that makes me laugh a little.

      But God wastes nothing, so I am not worried about that; the things that stay behind when i fly at His command He may yet use. I will not guess how the Christian I have been or the work of my hands even may still bear fruit after I am gone, for i do it all in Jesus' name. I see it as a possibility, even though some here may disagree.... My wife asked me a few days ago, why I was working so hard if i truly believed i would be raptured in the coming days or weeks. i told her that i did it only because i knew that when she was left behind, she would need every resource i could leave her. she scoffed, of course, but that scoffing doesn't erase the moment...

    13. Thomas,

      You're right when you say, "After watching and waiting for years I know that things can continue this way for dozens of years to come... It's really getting awkward and annoying."

      I think you might like my blog, where things like "watching" and the difference between "loving the Lord's appearing" and mere "lusting after the Lord's appearing" are clearly spelled out.


    14. Oh, Miguel, how beautiful and heartbreaking. I am praying for God to remove the blinders from her eyes that she may see the Love of God shining through you! Blessings - Sherry

    15. Thank you Sherry. That would absolutely be a miracle. She and my step daughter have very hard hearts when it comes to this stuff. Pray for both of them if you are so inclined. Bless you sister.

  17. Thomas, your words do actually resonate with my frustration, as well. Miguel P., I commend your honesty and I am right there with the both of you. And yet, and yet... Thomas the spot you are at is scheduled on our human route, and with precedent: Exodus 16:2. Remember, however, to not stop there, but move THROUGH and PAST it, lest you settle in rebellion and Numbers 16:30-32 find you. Lastly, as you learn to ride the frustration and mine its depths for insight into your own spirit man, remember that a tremendous blessing awaits your work: Isaiah 30:18; Isaiah 40:31; Luke 12:35-40; Lamentations 3:24-26; Malachi 3:16, Maranatha!

    1. Isaiah 30:18 is one of my most favorite Bible verses ever!!! Also Isaiah 40:31 and the Lamentations verse are very encouraging too! (While I believe so that Numbers 16:30-32 no longer applies to believers- those who belong to Christ I mean- in this current dispensation.)

    2. Your not alone Thomas. I didn't necessarily think the main event would happen yesterday but I felt something would happen to get a step further or we would see Our Blessed Home make a move as he did after Trump said no to Syria. That's when I get excited. But the day fell flat. I scorn myself for it but we just can't help it. This journey is so painful. BUT>>
      Pick yourself up, dust yourself off and start out watching again.

    3. I consider this week and the next one (and the one after that) a big high-watch period. Pentecost coming this weekend, though I mostly expect the rapture to happen on an "ordinary" day (not on a "significant one" like a feast day for example) but I could be wrong about that. Every day is a possibility.

    4. "But the day fell flat." I know it did for many of us. It did not entirely though...right? You saw the embassy being opened and the dozens killed. Right? and did you see the rest of the news? (see our Richards post over here: https://www.unsealed.org/2018/05/us-embassy-opens-in-jerusalem-massive.html).

      Every single time one of these dates comes, our kind and attentive Father gives us evidence of fulfillment.

      In my humble opinion, yesterday the world moved undeniably closer to the temple being rebuilt and biblical wars to ensue. We may have seen the lawless one, Jared? and we certainly have been hearing "peace and security".

      Any midwestern americans reading this, may have seen the storm last night around 8:45 pm. Also an undeniable evidence of the Father. The black blanket that hung low above us roiled with high voltage scintillations again and again, like I have never seen. the lightning shot to and fro across the sky seldom dropping down to earth and not once did i hear thunder.

    5. correction: meant to say "our BROTHER Richard's post..."

    6. Miguel P. and nolongerlukewarm, to which I would add the Israeli News article as republished on These Christian Times AN END-OF-DAYS GUIDE TO THE JERUSALEM EMBASSY MOVE. (http://www.thesechristiantimes.com/2018/05/15/an-end-of-days-guide-to-the-jerusalem-embassy-move/) . "yesterday the world moved undeniably closer to the temple being rebuilt and biblical wars to ensue."about sums it up to me, Maranatha!

    7. What a time we are living in! TY all for your wise words as frustration tries to permeate the air. I got booted off the site again for a bit by whatever does that, but there was plenty to watch yesterday. The reaction alone to the Embassy/Gaza violence was mind boggling. A double edged sword so evident and so divisive. While it may be tempting to challenge God at this uncertain time, I know it is myself that needs to be challenged as to where I will seek my strength.
      The ol’ Bing Art was confirming in that for me again this morning. It depicted a Bush Hyrax Family.
      (Also known as the coney or rock badger). A feeble folk who seek their refuge in the rocks.
      Prov.30:26 and Ps.104:18 KJV
      Just as we in our weakness seek our refuge in The Rock.
      The gematria for these little creatures:
      J/H#1089–to terrify, trouble
      E/G#756–precedence, to commence (in the order of time), (rehearse from the) begin (-ning).

      I know all things will be accomplished in His perfect order but we do need to stay awake and watch diligently.
      Had a dream last night of this box filled with bottles of unused prescription meds with an extra large colorful bottle of Vitamins perched on the very top of all the other smaller bottles. It was labeled “Rapture Road”.
      I take this to mean that keeping my eyes
      on this winding “road” to the coming of the Blessed Hope has not only been important, but healthy in regards to the strength of my love and anticipation of His Appearing. 2Tim.4:8
      I think all of those unused meds in the box signified the high watch days come and gone, from which although our “cure” has not yet materialized, were (and are) the prescribed (prophecied)events to be carefully noted by us in keeping our hearts, minds and spirits rehearsed and ready for that Great Day that will shortly be upon us. So yes,
      still excited, still encouraged and looking up :-D
      Blessings and Maranatha!

    8. Sheila B., your post blesses me, and I am moved to say that HE is blessed when we DILIGENTLY seek Him, amen, and that reverberates in what you said. In keeping with the many parts of a single Body, each with their own space, yet part of a larger, cohesive whole, it had BETTER look a bit different to each of us, or the model is unsound. When the moment arrives, it will sweep us all up in itself and be at the perfect time. Our marvel at that moment will so adjust everything that this period of His Shaping of us while we dwell, we will treasure, always. Maranatha!

  18. Found this devotional for today very uplifting.

    "Ask the Father directly...

    John 16:23-24

    “In that day you will ask me no questions. Most certainly I tell you, whatever you may ask of the Father in my name, he will give it to you. Until now, you have asked nothing in my name. Ask, and you will receive, that your joy may be made full. (WEB)

    In today's Bible reading, Jesus is telling His disciples that a time was soon coming when they would no longer ask Him questions. Jesus was pointing to the time when all who believed in Him would have direct access to His Father in His name.

    Of course, praying 'in the name' of Jesus, is not primarily about just saying 'in Jesus' name' at the end of our prayers. Praying in the name of Jesus is all about us being completely and fully united with Christ so much so that when we pray to our Father, we are praying in the very person of Jesus Christ Himself.

    In John 14:6, Jesus told us... I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father, except through me. (WEB). Jesus is our very access to our Heavenly Father. It is in Jesus and through Jesus that we can ask our Father directly. And Jesus wants us to ask because He wants us to receive directly from His Dad so that we would be full of joy.

    My prayer today is that we would all know that our elder brother has made a way for all of us to have direct access to our Father. May we know that it brings delight to our Father's heart to hear our prayers and to answer our prayers as well. He wants us to be full of joy knowing that He knows what we need even before we ask (Mathew 6:8). May we all have a new boldness in our hearts, knowing that we have access to our Father in Christ through the power of the Holy Spirit.

    Hebrews 4:14-16:

    "Having then a great high priest, who has passed through the heavens, Jesus, the Son of God, let us hold tightly to our confession. For we don’t have a high priest who can’t be touched with the feeling of our infirmities, but one who has been in all points tempted like we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore draw near with boldness to the throne of grace, that we may receive mercy, and may find grace for help in time of need." (WEB)

    1. (link: http://www.fatherheart.tv/daily-reading/)

    2. Thanks for posting this!

    3. Thanks, Nora! That is so very encouraging to remember as we pray:-)

    4. Amen, Nora thank you for posting a blessing

    5. Shared it happily! Thanks to the Lord for providing comfort and encouragement along the way!

    6. Oh, Sheila, thank you so much for this Pearl.

      "Of course, praying 'in the name' of Jesus, is not primarily about just saying 'in Jesus' name' at the end of our prayers. Praying in the name of Jesus is all about us being completely and fully united with Christ so much so that when we pray to our Father, we are praying in the very person of Jesus Christ Himself."

      Holy Spirit moved this from my head to my heart with your comment and when that occurs you are being given Wisdom. No words to express my gratitude. I am not simply coming "in His Name" - I am coming as Him for I am part of His Body. Profound! Blessings - Sherry

  19. Dear brothers and sisters I can attest to the personal feelings of wondering when Lord, what are we waiting for Lord. And of course in the same sentence I I know that your timing is perfect, Lord.. I have to remind myself that I've never gone through a season prior to the Rapture this is the first of course for many of us correct. !. Miguel I appreciate your comment,
    "But God wastes nothing, so I am not worried about that; the things that stay behind".... knowing that God is not wasting this time why we are here and we are here to serve him for his glory. Andrea I too seem to be hearing from the Lord in different ways, not like a resounding symbol or clap I opened up the Bible to Isaiah 40:9-10 and it says oh Zion you who bring Glad Tidings... Behold the Lord God shall come with a strong hand in his arm shall rule for him. Behold his reward is with him. I have to resolve myself on the Promises of God no matter what I see around me or feel .. God's word will last forever
    AND his promises that... he will take us home. And lastly we know this season, so we wait and we wait together with our eyes looked it up towards the heavens. Surely the heavens are confirming his soon coming. Maranatha

    1. Amen VeeBee! A wonderful summary! Agree with all your thoughts! Maranatha!

    2. VeeBee, thank you. Your words a beautiful and encouraging, Maranatha!

  20. The Hawaii volcano is now on 'red alert'. The news I watched said this means it is imminent or taking place.
    I just finished reading about the Yellowstone geyser erupting (Ring of Fire) ... from prophecyupdate.blogspot. And, contracts sought with other countries for residents if this happens. I guess it has been since 2014 through 2024 (Intellihub link), Argentina, Brazil and Australia supposedly signed on.
    Damage from this Yellowstone geyser would affect a range of 1,000 miles.

    1. Cathi G., I know the depth of my dive on this may have clogged the prior thread but we again seem to be hanging out and pondering things. Funny, it occurs to me, in light of what I had found regarding 'Sobering one up' that, perhaps, this will be one event serving to punctuate what He is Writing in HiStory currently. Bluntly, while we find a part of our own spirits wilting, a bit, and understanding when the world asks, where is the promise of His Coming? that HI may serve to remind ALL that THE LORD is at Hand. We shall surely soon see, prayers of Mercy for all, Maranatha!

    2. Yes, Jimboni. Exactly.
      I don't even know what to say ... Or how to think ...
      It was nice to hear from so many today and the encouragement​ expressed ...

  21. Guys we're out here before June. Don't lose hope I plead you Hebrews 10:35 NK Kim Jong Un just cancelled the peace summit and negotiations on 6/12 with Trump, highly upset. Another way paved to war... That's how God works Proverbs 21:1 MARANATHA!

    1. I also think that there's a high possibility that we're out of here before June!!! (I know that not everyone likes this kind of stuff but I keep thinking of what the Lord said to that little child, that He comes back before her birthday that is on the 9th of June, this year. Well... if that was truly from the Lord, let's hope!)

      I've read it in the news too not long ago that NKorea is threatening to cancel that summit. Did they go through with that threat? I wouldn't be surprised.

    2. Nora, I've read that he might have reacted to John Boltons suggestion to demilitarize NK according to the "Lybia 2004 model" well Kim might have recognized how that's gonna turn out for him but in fact Bolton already said this some 2-3 weeks ago. There must be another reason behind - God perhaps (Psalm 2:4)? LOL! YT channel #Edifying others# made a video on this topic, just have a look! :)

    3. Thanks for the info, Annabel! These current events are like a wild roller-coaster ride!

      (Forgot to add to "that kind of stuff" Brother Barry's upcoming vacation on the 27th of May and a certain thing the Lord said about that to him and his wife. :--)

  22. Another interesting note is this: EMP: Elaborate hoax or legitimate threat? (zerohedge 5/14/18) The article deals with a new 'trend' to call any worries about a possible global EMP blackout scenario flatout nonsense and a fearmongering hoax. This is so interesting to me because I truly think Satan again tries to distract people into carelessness about this topic. I have asked myself why such denial of EMP threat would be discussed in the news right now (because Satan and his angels know about this for sure!). I did a little research about what the transfiguration and later the resurrection of Christ could mean with regards to bursts of electromagnetic energy: I tell you there's a lot of information on this popping up on the internet (not only this one, just as an example)! Scientists may have even found the shroud of Turin 'imprinted' by electromagnetic waves. This just confirms my suspicion how a global EMP (+ blackout) might very well be the result of the resurrection / rapture as an immense amount of energy will cut down everything on earth by then. This alone will be a massive shock for everyone (!!!) left behind (the NWO elite included, but they think they are well prepared), let alone all the babies and toddlers / little children gone... So Miguel dear brother you should invest into a good generator and enough fuel for your wife to leave behind but this will not be the worst she might be expecting though... MARANATHA!

    1. Plus a very possible giant global earthquake as the result of the ground opening for the resurrection of all the passed away Church Age saints. Adding all the major global "mass-accidents" with all kind of vehicles (on the ground, in the air and on water) and accidents with all kind of other stuff (of infrastructures). What a cataclysmic global catastrophe that will be to those remaining on Earth!

    2. Thanks for all your thoughts really! Amen! I think all this week about Song 2:8-13 (KJV), I have only KJV jn English. Probably the Lord gives me this to study now. (?) Who can explane this detailing? I try to make my own outline. It seems to me we are in the right season, month and days. This is our Rapture indeed!
      11 For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone;
      Winter is December-January-February. The rain is March-April, is gone.
      Then flowers-birds (?)-turtle, fig tree - vines. This is now, May! Pentecost! (?)
      The Lord gives me always Scriptures when I pray and open the Bilbe anywhere! Probably He shows here something important! Blessings to all! Maranatha!

    3. Alla dear sister, in fact the best exegesis of 'Song of Solomon' that I've ever read is written by Arnold Fruchtenbaum as this is some allegory only in SECOND or even third line but rather to be understood quite literal as Gods 'manual' for sexual relationship before and during matrimony. Google for "Arnold Fruchtenbaum Hohelied" I have also found a link where you might download it for free? http://pdfcounter.co/B00C1NVTWM/das-hohelied.html much love and blessings to you! XOXO :)

    4. This Song of Songs verse is very fitting of this time of the year, Sister Alla! (I read somewhere that *the turtle* mentioned in the verse is the turtle dove. :--)

    5. Annabel I agree wholeheartedly with you the discussion of the EMP as a non-event and hoax in that article is so ridiculous. First of all, this has been discussed in US Security briefings for years as one of the greatest concerns to US and World security since it is so easily done and quite indefensible. I believe this is the exact reason so many DUMBS were built to protect their electronics from an EMP (human Faraday cages). Nothing is more clear in my mind than the effect of the Rapture as nothing less than a giant, worldwide EMP accompanied by the earthquakes of our Brothers and Sisters bodies being resurrected as Nora points out. We've watched the Left Behind series enough to be wrongly instructed about the effects of the "disappearances". They show only the car, plane, train wrecks and fear of where the missing are, but elected to show the disappearances as simply a vanishing with no effect. I agree wholeheartedly the Shroud of Turin, which I believe to be the burial cloth of Jesus, has scientifically shown us the "energy" surge produced at the Resurrection of our Lord. We are His body and thus the change should be comparable multiplied by millions.

      Allah, I love that portion of Son of Songs and like so many other scriptures - there are dual and even triple and perhaps more meanings in so very many of them. I believe you are seeing a double entendre there which speaks of certainly a marriage relationship between man and woman, but also of the relationship of Jesus with His Bride. It's usually not an either or, it's both and more.

      Another favorite of mine to note which comes form understanding Israelite & Middle Eastern custom - John 20:7 - "the cloth which had been on his head not lying with the linen wrappings, but "folded up" in a place by itself." In Middle Eastern culture if you removed yourself from the table for a purpose, yet were returning, you didn't ball up your napkin and put it on the plate to signify to the server you were finished. You folded it up and laid it to the side of your plate so they would not remove your place setting . . . FOR YOU WERE COMING BACK!

      Oh, the Glory of the Word of God - the Son of the Living God - we can taste and see His goodness for we have His Word, which is His Living Body in our hands to see and be Blessed by Reading His Heart. Blessings - Sherry

    6. "...there are dual and even triple and perhaps more meanings in so very many of them. I believe you are seeing a double entendre there which speaks of certainly a marriage relationship between man and woman, but also of the relationship of Jesus with His Bride. It's usually not an either or, it's both and more."

      One of the amazing things about Scripture!

    7. Dear Sherry your 'napkin parable' is intriguing - just thinking of how the shroud/napkin of Christ was found neatly FOLDED resp. wrapped after the resurrection! John 20:6-7 Especially in Hebrew customs, you will find a lot of biblical (Messiah Jesus) references and they even don't notice their meaning...

    8. Another thought Sherry: if an EMP is so easily done, why in the world haven't they already...? Instead of bombing I mean. I suppose there are also some huge angels of God restraining... Until...

    9. I think the real point is it's "easy" to create an EMP on a regional scale, but not worldwide. But, there is one event we know about which would create the effect "world wide". I think we are soon to be part of that particular event! ABBA UP! See you all in the air or over there! Blessings - Sherry

  23. Dear Brothers And Sisters
    Take a look Psalms 90:10 and Revelation 3:8-12. The verse in Psalms ... generation 70 to 80 describe little strength aND little strength for the end time church Philadelphia. Seems to be us as we wait with confidence.praying for each of us to trust His word and strive for boldness to p r each the word One more to be saved before His appearing. Maranatha

  24. "Psalm 23:6 (WEB):

    “Surely goodness and loving kindness shall follow me all the days of my life,
    and I will dwell in Yahweh’s house forever.”

    Promise #136: My goodness and mercy will chase after you all your life.

    The Hebrew word for 'follow' in this Bible verse is pronounced 'radaph'. It means to run after, chase, hunt, or pursue. It is a very descriptive word that King David chose when he declared how goodness and mercy would follow him all the days of his life.

    Just picture goodness and mercy relentlessly hunting you down all the days of your life. Never stopping, never ceasing in their pursuit of you. This is the blessing that is the inheritance for every son and daughter of the Father of Lights. His goodness and His mercy will run after us, chase us and pursue us... all the days of our life!

    May the reality of our Father's love and the intensity in which He pursues us become more real today than it has ever been before. God loves you because He is love and He cannot help but love. His love for you is not conditional or based upon your performance. His love is pursuing you and my prayer is that it will overtake and overwhelm you today!"

    (source: http://www.365promises.com/)

    1. I really love this Nora and I can testify this is exactly true! When we deserve nothing, he relentlessly pursues and hunts us down to show us His Grace and Mercy. The Greatest Love Story of All Times - We are the pursued. It is beyond my ability to conceive and grasp, yet I know it to be true. Blessings - Sherry

  25. "Be strong and courageous…

    Deuteronomy 31:7-8

    “Moses called to Joshua, and said to him in the sight of all Israel, “Be strong and courageous: for you shall go with this people into the land which Yahweh has sworn to their fathers to give them; and you shall cause them to inherit it. Yahweh, he it is who does go before you; he will be with you, he will not fail you, neither forsake you: don’t be afraid, neither be dismayed.”

    There are many times in the Bible where we are encouraged to not be afraid and be of good courage. This is one of those examples where Moses passes on the leadership baton to Joshua, encouraging him to not be afraid of the big task at hand.

    The reason that Moses was encouraging Joshua not to be afraid was probably because Joshua was afraid. When we are in an overwhelming situation, it is the most natural thing in the world to struggle with fear. It is not being afraid that is the problem, but it is what we do in the face of fear that matters.

    Moses didn't guarantee Joshua that there wouldn't be giants along the way that would be obstacles to victory. All he told Joshua was that God would go before him and be with him, every step of the way. He went on to say that Yahweh would never fail or forsake him either.

    The reason why Joshua could be strong and courageous was not because he was trusting in his own ability to lead the nation of Israel into the promised land. The reason that he could be fearless was simply because of the greatness of his God and all of Yahweh's precious promises.

    My prayer today is that each one of us would be strong and courageous in the midst of all of the challenges we are facing. Not because we have the ability to manage life on our own, but simply because we have a Father and an Elder Brother who have promised to be with us wherever we go. May we all have a deeper sense of the abiding presence of the Godhead in our being as we take the promised land set before us.

    Luke 12:32:

    “Don’t be afraid, little flock, for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the Kingdom.”

    (source: http://www.fatherheart.tv/daily-reading/)

  26. There're the latest news again.
    JP – Netanyahu: Riots on border are not civilian protests, but warlike acts by Hamas
    IDF strikes two Hamas positions in southern Gaza Strip
    Tensions with Gaza remain high as bullets, tank fire exchanged
    "Today's MUST-READ analysis" – The complex, and often toxic, Israel-Turkey relationship
    Presstv – Turkey urges Islamic world to unite against Israel, calls summit
    A quote: “The Islamic world should move as one, with one voice, against this massacre."

  27. Dear VeeBe beloved sister - thank you so much first of all for all your recent encouraging input (above) I have rejoiced very much on it!

    Now let me get to this 70-80 years' reference of Psalm 90 and how it relates to the 120 years of Genesis 6:3 === please note both the books of Jasher (chapter 5) and Jubilees (chapter 23) to understand the full meaning with regards to the "last generation(s)" of the endtimes IN THE DAYS OF NOAH... Look it up on the internet, there are in fact LITERAL quotations taken from in Psalm 90. Just FYI! Much love & stay blessed! :)

  28. Alla did you follow that diplomatic clash between TURKEY and Israel today?! Oh wow that was really something... And Erdogan being welcomed by the Pope officially after 60 years passed to receive a Turkish president by the RCC? The two national soccer players (German Team) but Turkish Özil and Gündogan being received by Erdogan recently just shortly before world championship starts in Russia, causing some viral upset on the internet for politics into sports? Well we cannot really say there's 'nothing happening'... MARANATHA!

    1. Thanks Annabel for your infos, it's very interesting to me! Maranatha!
      There's a new Gary's article in Unsealed –Guatemalan Embassy Opens In Jerusalem While Jewish State Bill Advances

  29. Dear family, apart from all excitement and political uproar that is currently happening on earth now... Please don't forget LOOKING UP as well! Here's our brother Steve Sewell who still does:


    Please also watch his video prior to this with the Pentecost focus "THE SUM OF ALL THINGS - HOMEWARD BOUND"... So wonderful! Blessings to all of you :)

    1. So great thanks Annabel! It's really amazing! Making many thoughts! Looking up!

    2. Annabel, thank you for posting the video from blessed hope I have watched several of his videos and they Resound to me God's abiding word.
      I will continue to pray for the Lost. Meet ing many each day oh that their ears would be open and their eyes would see the Wonder of the Lord ..who sent Hhis son to die on the cross that they might have eternal life. word.Marantha

    3. Both are excellent videos Annabel, I really enjoyed them. Blessings - Sherry

  30. If the Rapture has not occurred by next Feast of Trumpets, I'm going to start seriously doubting the pre-trib model.

    Sure don't like the ideas of mid or post-trib, or pre-wrath. I don't find comfort in those at all.

    1. It will be a pre trib rapture ! We arent appointed to wrath ! Have faith in Jesus and know that he already saved us and he will never ever ever forsake his children !!! Maranatha !!!

    2. Now now CD - I am an intra-seal (pre-wrath) believer, and I still manage to find plenty of comfort in knowing that we will always be in the centre of God's will! We forget that despite Noah enduring the fullness of the flood, he was fully safe and sound, and took comfort in knowing that God was true to his word.


    3. Mid Tribulation Rapture doesn’t mean we will suffer here.

      The Iran nuclear deal was signed on 14th July 2015.
      3.5 years from that day would be January 2019.
      That would be nearly 70 weeks from the Revelation 12 sign.

      That may be the mid Tribulation Point,
      when the Rapture happens and the Great Tribulation begins.

    4. CD, I just watched a couple of good videos with Pastor Andy Woods on the Pre-Trib Rapture that you might find encouraging.
      “Rapture Under Attack: Pastors’ Point of View part 1”.
      He talks about why this view is so despised and covers the Scriptural logic and necessity of the Pre-Trib doctrine. JD Farag stated that he has found Pastor Woods work to be quite confirming as well. Blessings, Brother as we wait upon His perfect timing.

    5. A big problem I see with a Mid-Trib Rapture sans our suffering is that from what I understand, most mid-trib people see that occurring at the time the 6th Seal is open. But what about that 4th Seal? When a fourth of the earth’s population dies. Rev.6:8. That’s almost 2 billion dead and bound to touch almost everyone in some way. And then there’s the 5th Seal with all of those martyred Saints under the alter with more to follow in their footsteps, Rev.6:11. So how is that protection from wrath? It just doesn’t make sense and doesn’t sound much like a Blessed Hope.
      Of course these thoughts are based on my understanding that the 7 years of Jacob’s Trouble actually begin with the Lamb’s opening of the Seals in Rev.6:1 and that the Apostle John was given to see the entirety of the Tribulation unfold.

    6. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Sheila. It seems that pre-tribulation is under attack as is the gospel of grace. The two are tied together I think because of those who believe you must work to keep your salvation.
      This calls into question also as you said of the tribulation period being seven years - the time of Jacobs Trouble.

      The fifth seal shows the souls under the altar crying out how long. They are given white robes and told to rest longer until those brothers and sisters who are to be killed. So, to me they are showing that the rapture has started, as they hsve been resurrected and received their new and glorified bodies; then, those who are alive are changed in a twinkling of an eye and receive their new and glorified bodies.

      Also, I have agreed with Hillary at Unsealed that the seals have been opening since Jesus Christ returned to heaven and the apostle John saw the bloodied lamb "standing" between the throne and the four living creatures and the elders in Revelation 5:6. This lamb then goes to and takes the scroll from the right hand of him who was seated on the throne. Revelation 5:7. A new song is sung ... Now I watched when the Lamb opened one of the seven seals. Revelation 6:1
      So, we are likely in the midst of the fifth seal and the rapture takes place before the sixth seal or at the same time.
      In summary, Hillary's article has the first five seals as pre-trib.
      Seals six and seven are the seven-year tribulation. The first half would be the trumpets, the two witnesses and the antichrist rises to power.
      The second half are the bowl judgements, the Jewish people who realize the A/C is not the Messiah at the mid-month flee to the mountains (probably the place in Jordan) and are protected for the duration of the tribulation. The antichrist is indwelt by Satan during this time and then he persues those who do not to the mark of the beast and are martyred.
      When I first read Hillary's article it made sense to me ... that the seals are and have been opening throughout the last 2,000 years and they are not all opened in the last seven years of Jacob's Trouble.

    7. I know that many believe you have to pray and ask God to be counted worthy to escape these things ... In almost any YT channel someone is bringing this up. But I see this as applying to the tribulation period and the tribulation saints who have to keep their salvation and faith in God and in Jesus. They need to not be asleep.
      We at this time and since Jesus' death, burial and resurrection are living in the age of grace. We are already covered, sealed with the Holy Spirit and we have Jesus' righteousness - not our own. God sees His righteousness and we are covered by His blood and it has nothing to do with us. Our righteousness is and always will be as filthy rags.
      When Jesus died on that cross, we died along with him. He said, It Is Finished. All of it .... We do not save ourselves and we do not keep ourselves. It is His faithfulness that keeps us. No one can pluck us out of the Father's hands (including ourselves). For don't you know, the Father and Jesus are one and the Holy Spirit who is part of this Trinity, He has sealed us. This is joy. This is the Blessed Hope - we are awaiting Jesus coming for us - the body of Christ.
      It doesn't make sense to me that someone who has believed and trusted in Christ would be left behind at the rapture to endure the tribulation, either. For then, why did Christ suffer and die if the work of the cross was not complete? Then it wouldn't be finished as Jesus himself said.
      It would end up being our works .... One way or another.
      What is the work of God but to believe in Him who he sent, his son, Jesus Christ. He is the way, the truth and the life and no one comes to the Father except through Him. John 14:6

    8. "I know that many believe you have to pray and ask God to be counted worthy to escape these things ... In almost any YT channel someone is bringing this up."

      Cathi, I noticed that too, it's very sad! As for the rest of your comment... AMEN, AMEN, AMEN!

    9. Amen and Amen Cathi - I, too, had always believed the Seals were part of the Trib until Hillary's article. I had heard others discuss we go up at 6th Seal and just scoffed and blew it off. But, her appeal was so level, kind and logical it provoked me to study it out for myself rather than listen to what others have taught. It has been one of the most rewarding and beautiful studies I've ever done because it speaks directly to the heart, nature and character of God and His ongoing involvement in mankind's lives since Pentecost. Not just by way of the Holy Spirit working through the Church, but by His Horsemen (the first 4 Seals) - they are to the Church as the horsemen in Ezekiel were to Israel. Yes, anti-christ will come on a white horse figuratively, but it is a false christ, just as it is as false seal. God doesn't attempt to trick us - White Horse is always symbolic of Good. The White horse of the first Seal was the Holy Spirit. The first 5 seals are not judgement - they are warnings - choices to be made. If you study it out and see it, you will find the genuine issues Pre-Wrath and Mid-Trib people have with the Pre-Trib view vanishes and we are in agreement. That is earth shattering to me. Nothing changes in the Pre-Trib view except the Seals are pulled back into the Church Age and are continuous and ongoing into and throughout the Trib. The first half of the Trib will see the Trumpets - the final opportunity for Mercy while the Wrath of the Lamb is poured out. We will be gone - Pre-Wrath & prior to Trumpets (as Mid-Trib espouses). Post trib cannot be reconciled in any form imaginable, its simply not scriptural. Greatest blessing ever to me - Thank you Hillary! I've written pages and pages on the confirmations of this throughout scripture. Blessings - Sherry

    10. Cathi, I am in full agreement with your 2nd post and as to praying to be counted worthy, I consider that also to be gained simply by recognizing that it is His worthiness alone that covers us. Re the 1st post hmm... I’ve looked at that over the years and I just can’t see the first five seals of Rev.6 represented in the age of Grace. I see them as horses of a totally different color, if you will.
      While the Body of Christ has certainly endured this life’s tribulations along with everyone else in the world, I see the seals as markedly different and exceeding in nature than anything we’ve ever experienced and I see them occuring on a massive global scale as well as a mass martyrdom in the 5th Seal such as Tribulation Saints will experience. And what of the rider of the first seal who went forth? Did he arrive right after Jesus ascended? Who is he and what
      did he do? Was there a historical event that marked his appearance? But that’s just how I my brain works and I know many others have interpreted it differently. Be glad when we are all finally brought to a full knowledge of truth and understanding.
      Blessings, Sister and Looking Up:-)

    11. Sherry, I see you answers the white horse question from this viewpoint. That is surely the first time I have ever heard it regards as the coming of the Holy Spirit. Not quite on that wagon, but I can better understand where that would lead to fitting the first 5 seals into the age of Grace. TY for the info.
      Many Blessings!

    12. Thank you, Nora! A
      And, Sherry ... I tried to find notes on the 1/4 of mankind killed but I couldn't. Maybe it has to do with a prrd of history. I remember reading something about it and other issues on the seals opening ....
      But, in looking for notes I had written down a commenter saying that maybe there is a pause in gathering the martyred saints under the altar ... That could be now!!! As to our being in the last days and we see (do we not) the day approaching!

    13. Thanks Sheila for your responses. It is good to hear from you.

      I just read in my Hillary notes on the white horse as Jesus the lamb who is NOW the Overcomer (who has rocked the world of religion ....) As we are also overcomers and more than conquerors (Romans 8:35-39) as to another idea of this white horse/conqueror ... And, fits with it being the Holy Spirit as Sheila stated.

    14. Well, I guess the marytrs are still under the altar ... Unless joining their bodies was all in the spiritual realm somehow. As to the graves being opened .... Assuming they do as they did after Christ's resurrection (believers risen). And, the massive crisis this would create as to the electrical energy/EMP results that Annabel has said.

    15. In ALL of these finer points I am called to bring it back up into the tower at 50k feet:
      "THEREFORE, ENCOURGAGE one another with these words" (1Thes 4:18, KJV emph mine). The 'therefore' referring to our Harpazo here tells me much about many of the finer points being discussed, Maranatha!

    16. Yes, Jimboni! I felt encouraged ... As I remembered some of these things ... if I understood you right.

    17. Sherry mentioned the first seal as being the Holy Spirit, Cathi. I am not of that viewpoint at all. I believe the Rapture comes before the opening of the seals. As for Jesus being the rider of the white horse, it just seems illogical that He opens the seal, sends himself forth to conquer when that was already achieved at the Cross, and then still remains in Heaven to open the other seals. I know white indicates righteousness, but in this case it could indicate “apparent” righteousness. Also the crown is “given” to the rider on the white horse, which seems to indicate he didn’t attain it himself. But who the rider is for certain has been an ongoing debate among the best of scholars. Hopefully, we’ll know the truth of that soon
      enough. The martyrs are still referred to as souls which sounds as if they are disembodied as yet.
      That might be where some language expertise comes.
      I’ve seen where the white robes are interpreted as their being clothed with moral purity, but again, that’s an opinion.
      Just be so glad when we get Home!

    18. Sheila, hi! I didn't see that I typed Sheila instead of Sherry. I apologize for that.

      Interesting Amir update this morning that I just finished listening to.
      His encouragement as he sees things beginning to take place regarding the Ezekiel war - with the ripple effects of Trump ending the Iran deal for the US and sanctions taking place. Iran lost billions in a deal with France that they since have withdrawn from which Amir said was the first ripple effect. Turkey is in trouble and is aligning with Iran as it seems others have withdrawn from Iran/Hamas issues and their joining together in the guise of the Palestinian issue. Russia in trouble because Iran doesn't have monies to pay them for deals made. He sees this as the prelude to those three (Russia, Iran and Turkey) coming together against Israel because of spoils needed. And, again he sees Israel living presently in security and they are prosperous. He sees eventually a cloud of rockets attacking Israel and God will intervene.
      He said the Israeli media is saying these are the days of the Messiah! This is preparing them to accept a Messiah ... The antichrist who will be politically correct and allows the temple to be built on the Temple Mount and accepting this person as their Messiah.
      And, he sees this as our redemption drawing near!

    19. Speaking of Amir (above) and his views of Israel of Israel being attacked by rockets and the preparations he is seeing take place, I finished reading the short article below:

      "Light was shed on Wednesday, May 16, on Russia’s mysterious intentions after its puzzling non-interference in the Israeli-Iranian clashes in Syria. President Vladimir Putin informed the Russian high command meeting in Sochi of two decisions: “Our ships carrying Kalbr cruise missiles will be permanently deployed in the Mediterranean Sea,” he reported. They will take up position opposite the shores of Syria, Lebanon and Israel. DEBKAfile’s military sources take this step to mean that the Russian army command believes the military confrontation between Israel and Iran in Syria is not over and more clashes are still to come."

      It was also revealed by military sources in Moscow that the Assad regime’s 4th Armored Division had received from Russia heavy rocket launchers deliberately dubbed Golan-1000, of 500mm caliber, which can deliver three rockets loaded with 500kg of high-explosive fragmentation ammunition. They have a range of up to 6km and are powerful enough to knock over IDF fortifications on the Golan. Those fortified bases remained unscathed by the Iranian Al Qods 20-missile barrage on May 9. So what is behind Putin’s maneuvers in Syria between Iran, Israel and the Assad regime? The coming issue of DEBKA Weekly out on Friday, May 18, unravels this conundrum as well as shedding light on the, pivotal military shifts in motion on the Middle East landscape."

    20. Sheila, my studies and a number of others after I came to that conclusion, point to Holy Spirit (not Jesus) being the Rider of the White Horse. THE EVENT was Pentecost, the other horses within the seals have been riding in preparation BY GOD of the earth and they are progressive - they will culminate in The Tribulation at their strongest. If you look back at the periods of church history you will see the 1/4 martyred over and throughout Church history - not just at one point. The martyred souls under the alter are crying out "when will be avenged" telling us the judgement has not commenced.

      Focus on the questions asked during John's Vision #2. Who is worthy to do what? To do 2 Things - Take the Scroll and Open the Seals. This question is asked in various ways and forms 5 times so it is important. Why then would it be reasonable to assume Jesus would take the Scroll and then leave the Seals for 2,000 years? The seals are the tools of Father God and His Divine Beings to "sit here while I put all things under your feet". We've always assumed that meant the Holy Spirit working through the church, but that is not all, the Seals were "Sealed" originally by Divine Beings, before the foundation of the world. Those Divine Beings - Seals are under the control of Abba Father to work His purposes. This aligns with the character and nature of God. He has not been sitting idly in Heaven waiting for the Church alone to be doing things to bring about His perfect plan. He's been actively using the "Seals" to raise up kings and take them down. He will continue to do so throughout the Tribulation. They aren't ceasing, their activity is increasing. That's why the Seals are called out with The Scroll - no mention of Trumpets or Bowls, those are instruments of Wrath. Seals have judgement within them but they force choices, decisions.

      Anti-Christ as a white horse rider is a counterfeit. Before there is a Counterfeit, there must first be an original. White is always indicative of Good, not evil - except where man has decided that only in Revelation it will be construed as evil.

      Once I opened my mind to set aside what I had been taught and thought I knew, it became a much greater testimony to the ever-working Hand of God. He has not simply allowed Satan to run rampant over his Church for 2,000 years waiting for us to be motivated by the Holy Spirit to do something. He's been punishing, rewarding, moving & effecting the change He wants in both good and evil people. This is, by the way, not a johnny come lately viewpoint. After I saw it for myself, then i was able to find many who taught this before and after the Futurist Only position took precedence.

      Again as always - not salvific - not something to fight, argue or divide over, but it has been a HUGE blessing to me to see the Hand of God in absolutely everything on behalf of His behalf. Not simply from a "third party" position, but directly. He's preparing everything for Jesus to make the final moves - He's putting things "under His feet". Blessings - Sherry

    21. Sherry, I agree with you re: the rider on the white horse being the Holy Spirit at Pentecost. I am considering doing an update on my original article about the seals, and this is a point I would like to include. Thank you for your thoughtful study of this topic & for your kind words. To God be the glory! As I say...if there is any truth here, it is from our beautiful Holy Spirit, and any error is all mine & this flesh. Longing for the day of redemption....

      God bless you & all who are gathered here.

    22. Hello, Cathi! 😊 He is coming soon...soon we will no longer be looking in a glass darkly. Keep holding fast!

    23. Hey Sherry. TY for your comments and
      I truly respect your viewpoint. I do stand on my view of the seals being opened post Rapture, tho.
      I know the Holy Spirit began to indwell the Church with the sound of a rushing mighty wind and cloven tongues of fire in Acts 2 on Pentecost, 50 days after the Resurrection and has worked wonderfully and mightily through the Body ever since.
      Rev.4:1 tells John to come up hither and he will be shown things which must be “hereafter”. John was an old man on Patmos by this time
      and Revelation was by all accounts I’ve seen penned around 95A.D. I’ve seen no indication of where he was taken backwards in time as the events he is shown unfold. That’s why I see all of the seals as future events from John’s viewpoint. And logically, as I said earlier, the obscure rider of the white horse in 6:2 cannot logically be The Lamb, while
      later in Rev.19, Jesus is so clearly depicted as the Rider of that white horse. So if the “obscure” unnamed rider of 6:2 is the Counterfeit that is yet to be clearly identified, then it makes sense to me that we are gone
      Pre-seals. As you say, our individual interpretation of this is not about our salvation, but I just wanted to explain a bit of why I see that the way I do. However it turns out, we will all be in awe of the perfection of His accomplished will.
      Blessings, Sister and Maranatha:-)

    24. Since I recently made a comment about this I am coming back to share that as I've continued to study, I am no longer convinced that the rider of the white horse is the Holy Spirit. The rider is given a bow and a crown and goes forth "conquering and to conquer." The Holy Spirit is not portrayed as a conquerer in Scripture. Instead, the Holy Spirit is a gift we receive when we are saved, who seals us (Eph. 1:13-14) and is the guarantee of our inheritance. The Holy Spirit comforts, teaches, convicts, guides. But in Scripture, the one who conquers is Jesus, and then us through Him (Rom. 8:37). I realize this may appear wishy-washy since I just made the comment a few days ago, but my study is moving quickly and I didn't want to overlook this statement I made here.

  31. God's Warrior a blessing to see you here again I was thinking about you yesterday and wondering how you were doing feeling, and the work job. Lord bless you as you continue to and seek the Lord and trust in him until the day of his appearing it has been quite a time with the volcanoes, Fishers in Hawaii, earthquakes , all the storms throughout the country , the flooding, and the chaotic behavior of Nations and people. Yes that's the word says we're not appointed to Wrath and I believe in Luke it says pray you therefore they may be able to skip the things that will come to pass. Maranatha

    1. Thank you dear VeeBee oh how i have missed all of you and I take comfort in pur savior and all the words you and my brothers and sisters speak on here times are getting very dark on this little rock with very very much happening its hard to keep up with it ! I pray our Father comforts and shields and continues to surrpund all with his love and that those lost open the eyes to the true love and compassion pur savior Jesus Christ has for us all that eternal gift that he paid for with his blood on that cross amen ! I miss you all , I am sorry I haven't been on much I have been having to work alot and I have been sick with this nasty sinus mess and then my mother called me on mothers day my grandfather on her side passed away from a massive stroke that was just very overwhelming now my moms worried about my granny and im in turn worried about them both although I know hes in a better place I am still human with emotions but still I pray as my mother asked me to pray as she said shes worried about granny and everything will be fine love you all your family and brother in Christ Jeramiah .....

    2. Jeramiah, I have been thinking about you. So sorry to hear about your family’s sadness and worry. I am praying for your Mom and Granny to be blessed with the Lord’s comfort and strength. I’m glad you are there for them strong in your faith and prayers. Take care, Brother and Maranatha!

    3. Yes, Gods Warrior your Mom must feel blessed to have you for a son. I hope your feeling better physically. And, I am sorry to hear about your grandfather and the worries your Mom has for your grandmother ... His mercy and grace cover you.

    4. Praying for your loved ones and for you dear Brother! Thankfully, the Lord could comfort us the best!

    5. Jeramiah, we love you and are praying for you. You are missed and loved by our Father and your Brothers and Sisters very much. Your faith is strengthening to all of us and we lift up your poor family in their grief and ask for the Comfort of the Almighty One. Blessings - Sherry

    6. Jeramiah, I'm praying for you too, and for your mother, very sorry about your grandfather! Thank you for your comments today, you are a real Gods warrior! I agree with all your thoughts! Blessings to all! Maranatha!

    7. Alla , Nora , Sherry , Cathi , Sheila thank you so much for all the prayers and such kind words you all are such a true and breath taking love hope comfort and true blessing from God to me and I cant thank you enough for all the prayers and kind words and just being you being my family and being here for me as if God knew many of us would he alone in these end times and wanted to make sure we had comfort and loving kindness when we have worry or tears streaming down our face as we all shine our tiny light and keep marching against the darkness with Jesus in pur hearts and one anothers hands holding each other amen maranatha your brother /son/grandson Jeramiah Russell ... your all in my thoughts and prayers daily !! Miss you all very very much!!!

    8. Sending some *hugs* to you, Brother! :--)

  32. Dear @family this is BREAKING NEWS even if it is taken from the Alex Jones' channel (which I personally find to support the Hegelian Dialectic agenda from the 'conservative' side but yet part of the game) please check also the infowars' twitter account https://mobile.twitter.com/infowars/status/996887637595013120 but watch this video for more details on the EU pedovore leaders (my own country's chancellor in frontline since 2015!):

    PEDO-POPE TO RESIGN IN MAY??!" (click!)

    This would make absolute sense to pave way for the "Rev13 second beast" the (new) false prophet of the NWO world interfaith religion based on Babylonian Catholicism. Perfect time to fly, MARANATHA! :)

    1. Thank you sister Annabel I had heard someone say the Pope may retire and I didnt know if it was true or not and im still skeptical but we shall see that would definately make things lean the way you said maranatha !

    2. Agree absolutely with you Annabel about Alex Jones, you do get a lot of truth there, but there is disinformation (Hegelian Dialectic) as well. He's always been suspect and just repugnant to me because of his "performance" tactics, but he's recently been confirmed in my own mind as working against those who are attempting to return America to the control of God's people. Thanks for your confirmation.

      This discussion about the Pope resigning doesn't ring true with me. He seems to be the perfect set-up and leader for the End Times Harlot Church Leader we call The False Prophet & that would agree with the Malaki Prophecy - Petrus Romanus the final Pope. If he was not, however, duly elected as some have suggested there is room for another to be put in place and fulfill the prophecy which has not failed over all these centuries. We shall see, hopefully from the Mezzanine - Blessings - Sherry

  33. Sherry, do you know that the seals parallel perfectly the description Jesus gives in Matthew 24?

    And in His description the first item IS antichrists. This throws me a little to then think of the white horse as the Holy Spirit....

    1. Miguel, the first thing you have to do is wipe the slate clean of the it's only 7 years thinking. It is difficult to do because we've been indoctrinated. You are correct Matthew 24 parallels the Seals. The Beginning of Sorrows is the moment Jesus was Crucified.

      The breaking of the first four Seals forms a group. If the number four in Revelation often represents the world, then it is right to see these as worldwide, history-wide scourges. The four horsemen have thundered down through history and all around the globe. They will continue to wield authority only as long as Christ, who holds the key, permits.

       Easley, K. H. (1998). Revelation (Vol. 12, p. 108). Nashville, TN: Broadman & Holman Publishers.

      John is taken into the Throne Room at a time PRIOR TO JESUS ASCENSION. John has been taken back and begins to walk through time and elaborate on what He sees. He is allowed to see the entire Church Age. We must all agree anti-christ is a counterfeit. For there to be a counterfeit, there must first be the reality.

      Jesus doesn't go out on the White Horse - Holy Spirit does. Jesus told the disciples to wait in Jerusalem so clearly one of His first acts once he takes the scroll would be to do what? Send the Holy Spirit out. The language in Rev 6:1-2 speaks to "conquering (Nikon) and to conquer (Nikese)" and when used together in this faction implies a permanent conquering. Satan will never be given the ability for a Permanent Conquering, only temporary. He is a counterfeit to Holy Spirit/Jesus. The Seals are not Judgements only in and of themselves. They are Instruments. They have been used and are being used and will be used by God to bring about His Purposes. They will be active in The Tribulation. Seal 6 occurs as or just after we go up. They are intensifying as time goes on. If you look back at history it is disingenuous to say Sorrows did not begin right away for the Church and they have certainly been and are still in tribulation throughout the Church Age (the beginning of Sorrows).

      There really is way too much to just put in a comment section, but know this - God and the first 5 Seals have been very busy throughout the church age completing God's promise to David and by extension Jesus in Psalm 110:1. He has been making their enemies a footstool for their feet. It surely isn't being done by the Church.

      Blessings - Sherry

    2. Sherry, are you saying that John was on the Isle of Patmos prior to the Ascension of Jesus?
      That’s where Rev.1:9
      places him as he is shown the things which were (Rev.1:1-19), the things which are (Rev.1:20-3:22), and the things which shall be hereafter(4:1-22:21).
      What Scriptures help you ascertain that he was taken up and given this unveiling prior to the Ascension? If that’s Scriptural and I’ve just somehow missed such a major detail all these years, that would definitely change my entire outlook on the Book of Revelation.
      TY and Blessings.

    3. Part ONE - Sheila, John was taken to the Throne Room in Vision #2 "AT A POINT IN TIME PRIOT TO THE ASCENSION OF JESUS". When John arrives in the throne room 24 elders are already there - not earthly men - they are enthroned, wearing robes and crowns. Jesus has not even arrived in the Throne Room at that point. Who is worthy - to A - Take the Scroll and B - To Open the Seals? 5 times these 2 questions are asked or comments made. Then the lamb appears - AS THOUGH SLAIN. He certainly had not been sitting around beaten, bloody and slain for 65 years. John SAW HIS ARRIVAL which would have been shortly after the Resurrection - "Don't touch me - I haven't ascended to my Father". We then see him being given the Scroll (Authority) by Father God and we proceed to the Enthronement Ceremony. When I began my study Holy Spirit gave me 2 points - A - What is the Scroll? B - John is walking through time. The Scroll is the Eternal Covenant made before the foundation of the World between Father God and Jesus, a legal document, Sealed with 7 Seals of Divine Beings - man didn't exist when it was created. Those Seals are representative of those Divine Beings and their Administrative Function on behalf of Yahweh. They can't be solely judgement, yet they contain judgement, they are more clearly tolls of administration. That's why the questions - Who is worthy to Open the scroll and loose the Seals? Jesus is handed the Scroll by Father God, cleaned and robed and seated at Abba's right hand - Psalm 110:1 - Sit at my right hand while I (Yahweh) MAKE YOUR ENEMIES YOUR FOOTSTOOL. Father God is doing this - not waiting for Jesus to return to do it - Jesus Finishes it.

      One of the last things Jesus told the disciples was to tarry in Jerusalem until the Comforter came. They're hanging around waiting - What is the first thing He would do once He's enthroned? Send Holy Ghost - yet there's no mention of it - it just happens and nothing is said. That's not reasonable. What was the 2nd question? Who can loose the Seals - So he takes the Scroll and waits 2,000 years to loose the seals? Then why add that question about the seals if they weren't imminent? The first seal is Holy Spirit which would have occurred 50 days after the 1st Ascension at Shavuot (Pentecost). The other 3 horsemen went out almost immediately and the 5th Seal shortly thereafter. Why? These are God's Divine Administrators doing the will of the Father to raise up kings and take down kings. Almost immediately Satan sent out his COUNTERFEITS - the original always comes first for there to be a counterfeit and we know there were anti-christs in the first century.

      SEE PART 2

    4. PART TWO -We've always been told the 24 elders represent the Church. Scripture does not indicate that and scholars today and previously, even at Dallas Baptist Seminary, admit the elders in Rev 4:4 are God's Divine Council seen numerous times in the OT - They are already there when John arrives enthroned & crowned. We are told they have to be men because they wear white and crowns. Scripture doesn't say that - man assumed it. Divine Beings are typically shown wearing white and a stephanos (crown) is a victor's crown. It doesn't have to be victory on the earth, there have been many wars fought in heaven and the victors would necessarily be his Council.

      John is walking through time - Chronological - beginning at the Ascension. Nothing loops back or switches back until you get to Chapter 12-part of Chapter 14, where you get a recap of what has been occurring in the Heavenlies (another viewpoint) while all this has been going on. Then it goes right back to Chronological.

      Seal 5 reflects nothing of judgement whatsoever - it is a recognition of those martyrs who have died in the faith. They cry out in Rev 6:10 - "How long, Oh Lord Holy and True, until you judge those who live on the earth and avenge our Blood?" They are telling you Judgement has not begun, they are still waiting for it. They are crying out for vengeance and they are told to wait a little while "until their fellow servants are killed as they had been killed". There is no reasonable way to read that all into the final 7 years when martyrs have happened from the first century. All God's people mattered throughout the church age and He was speaking to them, in their circumstances while they lived, not just some future only event. They lived in "The Beginning of Sorrows" as Matthew 24 tells us - but the end is not yet.

      Now when you see the Seals are not Judgement, but methods of administration, you will see they are continuing and Ever Increasing and will be active throughout The Tribulation - they don't cease, they ramp up. Seal 6 is the finale for the Church Age - when it is opened we go up and arrive in the Throne Room - holding our Palm Branches Chapter 7:9-12 & perfectly describes what the Church is promised, not the Trib Saints - they won't be with Jesus day and night. The 4 angels are holding the winds of the earth at the cardinal points while the Ambassadors of the Church Age are cleared out and the 144,000 are sealed. We are noticed when we arrive - we don't slip in the back door unmentioned. Trib Saints do not show up in Heaven until Rev 15:2 - they are them which had gotten the victory over the beast.

      It's simple, it's clean, it's still Pre-Trib and there is no forcing of things to fit a mold unnecessarily. It shows God's care and mercy for His people THROUGHOUT the Church Age. He has not been sitting idly by waiting for the Church to take care of things in the power of the Holy Spirit. The Church is part of His preparation, but certainly not all. Be Blessed - Sherry

    5. TY Sherry for your explanation but I’m afraid the simplicity has eluded me. I am a plain text kind of person and most of that seems more interpretational in nature to me. I’d really have to see plain Scriptural support for such an impactful event as John being taken to the Throne Room prior to Christ’s Ascension. At any rate I remain convinced of a pre-seal Rapture. As I was looking over just some of the many different exegetical perspectives today,
      I thought how nice it would be if the Body of Christ were all on the same page, but I guess we’ll all have to wait a bit more to know the why of that conundrum.
      Many Blessings:-)


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Set your minds on things that are above, not on things that are on earth. For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ who is your life appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.

1 Peter 2:9

But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.

Philippians 3:20-21

But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power that enables him even to subject all things to himself.