Remembering Chuck Missler
As you have probably heard, a beloved teacher of so many of ours had gone home to be with Jesus this week. Chuck Missler had a huge influence on me and I so loved listening to him teach. You could learn more from one of his 5 minute rabbit trails than you could often learn in some entire sermons from other teachers. He did many excellent studies on biblical texts and wasn't afraid to tackle other topics most prophecy teachers wouldn't think about touching. He will surely be missed, but his tireless work will also enrich our lives until the Lords return. I must admit, the first time I started watching him I was a bit put off by was seemed to chronic poor video quality, but now I find it enduring and authentic. While other ministries may have flashiers graphics, Chuck just brought the truth... and he let The Word shine brightest which I so appreciate.
Here is one of my favorite posts from last year with Chuck featured:
5 Theologians on the Child of Revelation 12 - Rev12 Daily
Here is a small selection of Chucks teachings:
Chuck describes the order of events of the end times.
(9 minutes)
Chuck shares the writings of early church fathers who describe the pre-trib rapture.
(2 minutes)
Chuck goes through Revelation 12. He shares a lot of great info, but much of this chapter wasn't quite seen clearly by us until recently. At around the 35-37 minute mark he does give weight to the idea of the man child being caught up in Rev 12:5 representing the rapture of the Church.
(71 minutes)
“Those born once will die twice and those born twice will die once ” ― Chuck MisslerI can't help but think that God raised up this fearless truth teacher for a time such as this, and I also know that He called him home at this time for a reason (70 days after Billy Graham died)....it is surely a sign. How fortunate are we to have hours and hours of his teaching at our finger tips, how blessed are we to spend eternity worshiping our risen King along side Chuck and every other faithful believer as well. Praise Jesus and Maranatha.
Here is one of my favorite posts from last year with Chuck featured:
5 Theologians on the Child of Revelation 12 - Rev12 Daily
Here is a small selection of Chucks teachings:
Chuck describes the order of events of the end times.
(9 minutes)
(2 minutes)
Chuck goes through Revelation 12. He shares a lot of great info, but much of this chapter wasn't quite seen clearly by us until recently. At around the 35-37 minute mark he does give weight to the idea of the man child being caught up in Rev 12:5 representing the rapture of the Church.
(71 minutes)
Amen!
ReplyDeleteHis gift of teaching was unbelievable and his spirit the most humble and sweet of any man I've ever known. With all his worldly accomplishments, you never had any sense of pride overtaking or of "speaking down" to those he taught. He made me believe I could understand the scientific angles he discussed in scripture I'd never heard before and that gave me the ability to embrace them as my own because of his clear instruction. Much of the foundation I now hold dear was increased and shored up by this man. His most endearing quality to me was his inability to speak of our Savior without tearing up. His love was palpable for Jesus. What a great legacy of love this man left behind! Blessings - Sherry
ReplyDeleteAmen, Sherry and TY so much Brad for posting this material from Bro. Missler. Looking forward to
Deleterevisiting some of his teachings here tomorrow, Lord willing.
Many Blessings!!!
My friend Diane shared this via email.... Wow!
Delete"I just realized that it has been exactly 70 DAYS from the passing of Billy Graham on February 21 to the passing of Chuck Missler May 1, end dates included!!! NO COINCIDENCES!!"
Amen sister Sherry you hit that one on the head that is totally right sister amen and Maranatha !!!
DeleteI surely didn't know Br Chucks teachings so well as most of you do; but I am certainly looking forward to meeting him soon most alive and kicking in full bloom of everlasting youth to see many of his prophetic insights fulfilled! Again, I nevertheless find his time of being called home quite significant. These are not just 'doors' in church age to be closed now by God but rather huge gates or portals!!
ReplyDeleteWhich brings me to Joshua 3:5 and another most valuable Omegaletter article 'Why should we study the Tribulation?' (Steve Schmutzer) again, as some videos like e.g. Br Todds latest to "time to get back to spreading the gospel" and "It's all about Jesus anyway" does not fit with me in my Spirit nor does it with all that we notice happening around us but what the most notable thing is: it doesn't fit with scripture. This is time for SANCTIFICATION according to Revelation 22:11 now, the saints should now urgently prepare to what and WHOM they will be face to face very, very soon!
I do highly recommend to ponder Br Steves argumentation as I myself am expanding it to the apocrypha as well today. It might well be that some of you have already read them but just found them "nice but (in lack of a better word) useless" - but as I am reading them for the first time now I am astonished that I seem to be quite the only one (?) to find tons and tons of literal OT and NT quotations, parallels, imagery and prophetic insight when rather just scanning them (in lack of time and because of my bad eyes!) so I can hardly imagine what I would find when digging deeper. Regardless of how I find the divine Trinity to be most (!!) glorified in these "forgotten" books and I can hardly wrap my mind about all what the Holy Spirit shows me from them. Well, maybe this is what Br Steve motivated to write the same thing about the book of Revelation (which btw Martin Luther already wanted to throw out of the canon if you didn't know yet so you're indeed still lucky to have at least this one left in your bibles!). MARANATHA, have an awesome day in Yahushah! :)
Thank you Annabel, this seems to me to be a very good thing to do, well within what our Lord would have us do. Thanks for the links. I for one will be following this up. Maranatha, keep looking up. :)
DeleteAnnabel, I read the Steve Schmutzer article. Yes, in fact the whole of Scripture is rarely cracked in many churches today as social justice doctrines prevail. But as I said earlier, I consider the Bible to be the whole counsel of God and untold many of us have always incorporated it-Genesis to Revelation and Revelation to Genesis-over and over in our walk. The serious Pre-trib dispensationalists I know, myself included, absolutely do care about knowing all we can about every leg of the journey home to Eternity -past, present and future. We know how bad the Trib will be and have loved ones that may well experience the terror of it, but there is no other cure for the disastrous state of this world. It’s not going to get better as you well know, but only spiral into the darkest depths of depravity. We are not callous, selfish people just looking for our own personal deliverance, but the deliverance of as many as will have it to the Glory of our Creator. And if I have a choice to get in the Ark with as many as will come, I will not foolishly reject so great an offer.
DeleteThe message of His saving Grace is more desperately needed now than ever before and should be shouted from the rooftops while there is still time.
Re ML wanting to remove the one Book that says “Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.” Rev.1:3
KJV.
Well, since he was never the one making that decision, it didn’t happen, Praise God.
I fully believe Eph.2:8-10 will stand until the moment of The Blessed Hope aka the Rapture.
Be blessed today and Maranatha, Sister!
I learned TONS from Chuck Missler over the last 15-20 years, and loved his style of teaching. There was simply no one like him. Chuck and the late Jack Kelly were probably my two single biggest biblical influences, and I can't wait to meet them both.
DeleteI agree Greg, if I had to pick two all-time favorite Bible teachers, those are the two I'd pick.
DeleteJust a little chime-in here to Greg and Justin - I agree with you 100%, 2 of the greats - Missler and Kelly. You will both recall that Missler and Kelly "suspected" a great time for the Rapture would be Pentecost. Kelly wrote a book about it and was often on Prophecy Watchers with Gary Stearman, another Pentecost proponent. Wouldn't it be just like our Father to use Chuck's going home to remind us of his teaching on the Rapture at that time as a possibility, never set a date once in his life, and also to remind us of Jack and his book by extension? Wouldn't it be just like him? Blessings - Sherry
DeleteThere are a few people I look forward to giving a big hug in heaven. Chuck is definitely one of them.
ReplyDeleteThank you for sharing Chuck Missler was an amazing teather and Bible scholar , he died 14 days before May 14th 70 yr anniversary he was 83 years old and takes me to psalms 83 the acts tgat may very well he happening soon ! Maranatha ! Oh another sister had mentioned his name Missler making her think of missle they come down we go up !!!
ReplyDelete"You could learn more from one of his 5 minute rabbit trails than you could often learn in some entire sermons from other teachers." That about sums it up, although that smile, that was quickly on his face, told you that the spirit of this teacher was gentle and true and anointed by the Gentlest of all. As a fellow teacher, I am confident that Our Lord will shower praise and honor upon Chuck for his fidelity to His Call to instruct us all and, in so doing, bringing us all closer to Our Lord, Maranatha!
ReplyDelete1 emergency plane landing due to window crack today and 2 others were crashes 1 was a military helicopter all today so far !
ReplyDeleteFolks, this is HUGE... (Besides Chuck Missler going home - but perhaps he took as well note of such things in his teachings?) A spiritual message from my country Germany, please pay close attention to what is hidden behind:
ReplyDeleteGerman cardinal Reinhard Marx, head of Catholic bishop conference and advisor to Pope Francis, praises Karl Marx (funny the names!) at upcoming 200th birthday on May 5th (!!) for being misunderstood and misinterpreted, helped to shape Catholic social doctrine, was in no way responsible for Community atrocities WWHHHAAAATTT??
Aaahhh! Here we go again, George Orwell and the MSM "Ministry of Truth" rewriting and re-interpreting mankind history for the dumbed down Millennial and MKUltra zombie audience, making 'Generation Z' ready for the great tribulation! SMH... Ugh!!
Unbelievable, the idiocy will simply not end. Combine that with Abbas' latest remarks blaming the Holocaust on the Jews themselves and it really spells end times more and more. Here's a link in case you haven't seen it.
Deletehttp://prophecyupdate.blogspot.com/2018/05/abbas-anti-semitic-bid-to-blame-jews.html
Scott also has an article today about the relocating of 10,000 residents from Vanuato Island because the Ash from the Volcano - SINCE LAST SEPTEMBER - has ruined the gardens, crushed in many thatch roofs and "turned the waters bitter". Just saying. Here's that link.
http://prophecyupdate.blogspot.com/2018/05/vanuatu-plans-to-permanently-evacuate.html
Going Home, Going Home, I'll be Going Home - Lyrics from David Phelps song - Going Home! you should check it out - it's fabulous. Blessings - Sherry
Sherry my Dear, TY so much for this song... We should make this our Rev12-daily anthem!! Made the tears rolling... I'm so done with this all. The only part of the lyrics I won't experience sadly is the mother-father-friends gathering. They won't be going where I do: John 7:34 Much love to you and yours! Blessings YSIC
DeleteSo glad you enjoyed it Annabel - David Phelps absolutely has a gift of storytelling in song that is beyond compare. Don't miss Heaven's Shore. I know exactly what you mean about some family members. I have a dear Uncle whom I spent another round of witness to yesterday in email form after a question he pondered. Literally, less than an hour after he'd received it, he wrote back to let me know the Bible simply is not true, no Adam and Eve, no Garden, no Flood & literally dismissed everything I believe, live for and said without a second thought. It's heartbreaking to know we won't see them there, but all we can do is sow the seed, water if we're allowed and pray and I'll continue to do that, but I think my long discussions and examples are done there. I sense no prompting of Holy Spirit to continue so that, in itself, is devastating. Blessings - Sherry
DeleteSherry, I wondered yesterday why I knew the melody so well - it is from Antonin Dvoraks symphony "From the New World"! I didn't know that it was so to say "maxi-singled" with lyrics as I only know the whole thing... LOL! :)
DeleteBut now I have another one for you which just came to my mind, that's how I feel at the moment (regarding the finish line too...): OH LORD I'M ON MY WAY (Gershwin) (click!) O how I wish we were there already! Much love to you and all who are (still) with Jesus at your place! YSIC
Dvorak is one of his favorites to work with. He's classically trained so that training is evident in his work. The Lord brought him to my attention about a year ago and has really called me to Praise and Worship more so since that time. His anointing is so evident and really opens my heart to hear the Spirit more clearly. He doesn't just sing a song, he preaches a message in every song - the message of Christ. Don't miss his Canon in D (Medley) and I actually find really none of his that don't speak to me. https://youtu.be/OLilYpRAuU4
DeleteGershwin was a real treat - thank you for that. I'll see you on Heaven's Shore - Blessings - Sherry
THIS IS HUGE!!!
ReplyDeleteSince last week I've actually been watching through Chuck Missler's Genesis commentary, so it was pretty crazy to hear about his passing a couple nights ago. Chuck Missler has been my favorite Bible teacher for quite some time.
I just now finished Session 5 of his Genesis commentary, and something he said near the end blew me away. If you're watching/hoping for a possible rapture this month, check out this video, and watch from 1:17:15 - 1:18:15. Chuck Missler speculates about a Shavout (Pentecost) rapture, and he ties Enoch with the birth of the church to make the case! Check it out (1:17:15 - 1:18:15):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_lhBiQ2aPs
P.S. That would be around May 20 this year for those keeping score. Along with the recentness of the Revelation 12 sign and this being Israel's 70th, I am as hopeful and watching as ever. We'll see...MARANATHA!!
Yes Justin I listen to Chuck Missler often on the radio as well as on YouTube. I will listen to this video . Yes, you know many are watching, each day is a new day and every day that I wake up I say is this the day Lord comes. Watchman on the wall 88 also discusses this as well take a listen to his most recent video God bless you as you wait on the Lord and occupy until he comes. Maranatha
DeleteDear Justin TY for that link! You only must take into account that all the calendar was changed and altered by the Jews themselves which also has been prophecied in the books of Jubilees and Enoch (but again, if people don't read them, how would they know?). So in fact "Jewish" counting and their traditional fables is not really reliable to me. But it is an interesting thought nevertheless about Shavuot. I watch for it certainly. Blessings to you! :)
DeletePS: Enoch in fact was raptured "in a whirlwind" as he describes himself in his book several times, but it was to show him all the secrets of heaven and earth and to write them down later then in the Garden of Eden (which makes absolute sense to me why people didn't see him anymore).
Thanks guys. FYI the clip from the video I linked above is only 1 minute, even though of course the whole video (and series!) Is worth your time.
DeleteI definitely don't doubt that the Jewish calendar has been altered over time. Is it possible that God would still choose to use our flawed calendar today, off as it may be? I don't know, and I'm not married to the idea of the rapture having to happen on a feast day anyway. Blessings to you as well Annabel and VeeBee!
Thanks so much Justin. Great find!!
DeleteChuck makes alot of sense at 1:18:10 when he describes how it makes so much sense that the Jewish clock would restart on the same day it stopped... Pentecost rapture maybe!
DeleteI really have to agree Brad and Justin. One thing the Lord has shown me is The Rapture is not only to remove His Ambassadors, but it is a GREAT SIGN to Israel. This pushes me more and more to believe it will happen on a day significant to the Jews and one they would understand in their current calendration method. Though Annabel is probably correct and the calendars are completely off course, if you go back and look at the Blood Moons and how they fell as well as the Rev 12 sign, there is accuracy there.
DeleteIt seems to me THE GREAT SIGN would be far more impactful if it occurred on a Jewish Feast day. Originally, I didn't think it was necessary as Justin points out, but the more I consider and pray about it - I'm having difficulty considering it at a time insignificant to the Hebrews, for how then could it be as effective a sign?
When you take that into consideration with Brad's point that Chuck made in his video about the clock restarting when it stopped, it is even more persuasive to me. Line upon line, precept upon precept! Not trying to push God into a box, just watching and relying upon His Precision! Blessings - Sherry
Great points Sherry, especially about the blood moon tetrad and Revelation 12 sign all falling on feast days. Seems like possible confirmation that Jewish feast dates as currently observed do matter to God!
DeletePretty cool that Chuck Missler has read the BOOK OF ENOCH (!!) and holding it in such high esteem and scriptural value that he would refer it to the rapture of the church!?!
ReplyDeleteWell, if this book is not regarded valuable as Gods inspired scripture as so many claim today, how could he do so? Thoughts, anyone?
My memories of Chuck were of him finding validity of the bible was through its design by how each book was interconnected and its allowance for redundancy if a book was to be lost or not included. He saw bible prophecy as evidence that the bible was created outside of time.
DeleteChuck was well.... there's no other way to put it a Mental Giant you just need to read his bio he was abstract and analytical in his thinking. My favorite part of Chuck was when he didn't know something he would just say i don't know.
When Chuck referred to the book of Enoch there was certainly some critical thinking involved and maybe some holy spirit guidance as well.
Annabel, Those of us who have them, shared what our concerns are regarding the Apocrypha books. I kind of think the same what Sheila said on this topic previously, I think that’s basically my approach too. The thing is, it doesn’t matter who holds any of the Apocrypha books in high regard, none of these books will be on the same level and authority with the Bible (or close to it, when it comes to my own p.o.v.). I know I repeat myself but really, the only person who could change my opinion about that is Jesus Christ. When I meet Him and He says to me: “Nora, you were wrong about that!” That’s when I’ll change that stance.
DeleteNora, I already got you in the first place, and so be it! :D --- Anyone else wanting to contribute to this I can learn more from?
DeleteA thing that just came to mind about the Book of Enoch is that I've heard so that there are several versions of it (with the authorship questioned) but maybe that info is in the Wiki about it already, idk. (Somebody wrote about that in a discussion about the Book of Enoch last year at another Christian forum.)
DeleteAmen Nora I agree with you in your stance 100 percent !
DeleteNora, the versions you speak of is correct. The Book of Enoch pointed to by scholars I am aware of is Book 1. Their viewpoint, as I understand it, is although it might not have been penned directly by Enoch it was most likely a compilation of what He was given and written down and compiled into book format at a later time. This is One - probably the 2nd of 2 main objections to accepting it as canon. The primary reason it wasn't accepted and I've mentioned this before, there is no Arameic version. In fact, it was believed to be extant until the Dead Sea Scrolls were unearthed, then only a fragment was found. The fragment lends credibility to its authenticity, but not to the degree if could be considered canonical.
DeleteThe other "books" of Enoch I have found in my studies are almost totally dismissed in the scholarly community because they are simply at variance in differing points with Scripture. Again, I've said it before and I'll say it again, let Holy Spirit be your authority. I appreciate them for their historical and rich textual information as I would other historical references, but I do not buy everything hook, line and sinker. Much to be learned - Eat the Meat and Spit out the Bones! Blessings - Sherry
As I was digging deeper into the pros and cons of 1Enoch this morning, I came across an excellent comparison study showing how the Bible itself exposes why it was not and could not be part of the Canon. There are contradictions to the Holy Scriptures. For one instance, what account are we to believe in regards to who built the Ark? Noah in
DeleteGen.6:14,22 and 8:6
and Heb.11:7
Or angels in
1Enoch 67:1-3.
And what are normally seen as Biblical information gaps filled in by 1Enoch are actually quite detailed “nuggets” that can be found inside of the Canon.
Despite the negative sounding title, it is well worth watching for understanding why this book had to be rejected as Canon and why, on a more positive note, it may have come forth in such prominence in these very last days.
This study was eye-opening for me as I learned why we can trust that our God truly gave us all we need to know in His Holy Inspired Word. (Deut.29:29)
Interesting that these researchers were at one time strong public proponents of
1Enoch.
But as always, use your own eyes and discernment. (An hour plus.)
The Case Against the Book of Enoch
@Paradox Brown YTC
Blessings and Maranatha!
I also agree with Nora and Gods Warrior and Sheila.
DeleteIt seems incongruent to me in referring to the book of Enoch or any other book as God inspired.
I plan on watching the video you referenced, Sheila. I had read some materials yesterday ... My reading well came close to seeing this fascination with Enoch or whatever other books were found amidst the Dead Sea Scrolls as well like having one's ears tickled ... Well, that is food for thought.
I guess I could clarify to the above as 'being God inspired' as 'being God inspired scripture'.
DeleteGreetings, Fam. Just watched an encouraging video on 9Nania's YTC called "APRIL/MAY 2018 RAIN of FIRE?! (Bible Confirmations)" which ties together a large number of verses around this timeframe, ending 5/14/2018 and stretching back 1,260 years. Although a rapid overview touching upon, most likely, details covered by her in other videos, the convergence of so many points, once again, clearly bangs the drum of 2+ witnesses and is worth your review. I am sure that several of you will take issue with a few points along the way but still think you will find it intriguing to check into, Maranatha! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkPrpaoPhkE
ReplyDeleteWhat is the book of Enoch and should it be in the Bible?
ReplyDeletebook of EnochQuestion: "What is the book of Enoch and should it be in the Bible?"
Answer: The Book of Enoch is any of several pseudepigraphal (falsely attributed works, texts whose claimed authorship is unfounded) works that attribute themselves to Enoch, the great-grandfather of Noah; that is, Enoch son of Jared (Genesis 5:18). Enoch is also one of the two people in the Bible taken up to heaven without dying (the other being Elijah), as the Bible says "And Enoch walked with God, and he was not; for God took him." (Genesis 5:24; see also Hebrews 11:5). Most commonly, the phrase "Book of Enoch" refers to 1 Enoch, which is wholly extant only in the Ethiopic language.
The biblical book of Jude quotes from the Book of Enoch in verses 14-15, “Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men: ‘See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones to judge everyone, and to convict all the ungodly of all the ungodly acts they have done in the ungodly way, and of all the harsh words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.’” But this does not mean the Book of Enoch is inspired by God and should be in the Bible.
Jude’s quote is not the only quote in the Bible from a non-biblical source. The Apostle Paul quotes Epimenides in Titus 1:12 but that does not mean we should give any additional authority to Epimenides’ writings. The same is true with Jude, verses 14-15. Jude quoting from the book of Enoch does not indicate the entire Book of Enoch is inspired, or even true. All it means is that particular verse is true. It is interesting to note that no scholars believe the Book of Enoch to have truly been written by the Enoch in the Bible. Enoch was seven generations from Adam, prior to the Flood (Genesis 5:1-24). Evidently, though, this was genuinely something that Enoch prophesied – or the Bible would not attribute it to him, “Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men…” (Jude 14). This saying of Enoch was evidently handed down by tradition, and eventually recorded in the Book of Enoch.
We should treat the Book of Enoch (and the other books like it) in the same manner we do the other Apocryphal writings. Some of what the Apocrypha says is true and correct, but at the same time, much of it is false and historically inaccurate. If you read these books, you have to treat them as interesting but fallible historical documents, not as the inspired, authoritative Word of God.
https://www.gotquestions.org/book-of-Enoch.html
I agree 1,000% percent!!
There you go Sam - that's it in a nutshell.
DeleteJimboni, you know I absolutely can't ever wait to read your comments. However, with that being said, may I just insert a BIG, GIANT, SCREAMING BE CAREFUL when it comes to 9Nania. She has such interesting timelines and factual details with much accurate dating and really interesting, out of the box thought processes, she is hard to shove aside. But she doesn't simply push the envelope, in my opinion, she teaches outright error and lies mixed in with truth. I cannot tell you the number of people, oddly mostly women, who become entrapped in her web and will literally defend her points over scripture. I won't go into all the errors here for Br. Barry Scarborough has been calling her out for years and he has excellent videos detailing her numerous perversions of scripture, which she addresses by claiming scripture itself has been perverted.
Jimboni, I know your brain is quick enough to seine that pond for the fish and leave the detritus on the bottom, but I would urge big-time caution for those who do not have roots to China in the gospel. She is wickedly good with her deception. Let me just state unequivocally - Gadriel, whom we refer to as satan, is not the Creator whose reputation has been perverted and badmouthed by the evil Yahweh. Her teachings will quickly become as spells if you aren't careful and it literally "feels" to my spirit there is witchcraft going on there. Enough said and I'll hush. Blessings - Sherry
Let me second that comment towards 9Nania's studies. She is IMO the most cleaver wolf in sheeps clothing that I have ever found. Granted, her research is sometimes amazing, but the Holy Spirit is not with her.
DeleteSherry G., Understood. I haven't spent hardly any time on her site, having watched a video which I found intriguing some time ago and simply keeping an eye on it since. She does seem rather ego-centric in her understandings and I sensed much of what you detail. As I had said, there were several points she alludes to along the way which I had issue with and know others would, but, all in all, I am always willing to toss the bathwater but keep the baby so wanted to share. This particular video did seem to line up with several things at hand right now and even a broken clock is right twice a day, Maranatha!
DeleteThank you for responding, Sam, regarding the book of Enoch. I had read that too from Got Questions. I second your 1,000 percent!
DeleteL. A. Marzulli gives a huge credit to Chuck Missler in his latest "ACCELERATION RADIO 5-2-18" YT video, just WTWT for more interesting nuggets about the upcoming period of deception! MARANATHA!
ReplyDeleteAs well you should spend just 6 tiny minutes on your prophetic clock watching the latest FaceLikeTheSun YT channel video about the NEW ALTAR IN ROCKEFELLER PLAZA! Just unbelievable... Btw the artist is a German again, his name means "Helmet of God + Pine tree" 73 might be a pretty significant number in the occult too... (Jimboni?)
ReplyDeleteOK and what made me really laugh today was zerohedge again about James Comey and the non existing Deep State but existing Deep Culture as the Boy Scouts becoming gender-neutral by dropping the "boy" after 108 years wasn't really news but the new normal already... #BOY# ARE WE CLOSE TO GOING HOME NOW!! :=D
Annabel I will accept your call. Doing some digging while praying over this one the themes I see are Duality, Deception wearing the form of Truth as well as details tying this, very specifically, to THIS prophetic moment, as we are understanding it. My analysis will be on 2 tracks: 1st the work and 2nd the artist and insights and findings for each.
DeleteThe Work
At first glance this artwork could easily be mis-interpreted as symbolizing the Bible rising above the serpent, on wings of Eagles. That one is so easily led to this perspective seems intentional and a hallmark of one spirit at work here, as you will see. However, as you listen to the story behind the artwork, the book being lifted ‘over all’ is a humanist work, not Scripture. Thus, the true message is diametrically opposite the likely misinterpretation by the masses while couched within Biblical symbolism co-opted by the enemy. In fact, the work depicts unlocked (by MAN) ultimate secrets which even the Serpent aspires to, and, is seen here reaching UP to knowledge discerned by man in search of Highest Truth. Again a duplicity and, perhaps, a reveal that one element of the coming deception is an appeal to Man’s PRIDE (go figure) that the Enemy will appear to be seeking guidance from ‘higher’ beings, which man ‘becomes’ upon ‘ascension’ and ‘completing the ascension’ by accepting the Mark and its attendant Transformation, a copy of the transfiguration we experience at Harpazo.
Its name, and the name = nature, “Uraeus”, has an English Gematria of 796, Jewish of 576 and Satanic (appropriate here) of 295. I wasn’t even going to bother with the Hebrew Strong’s, as seemed inappropriate, but was surprised by that as well.
OK, buckle up, this is a good one.
G796: astrapé: lightning, brightness
“For as the LIGHTNING cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.” Matt 24:27 KJV
“And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as LIGHTNING fall from heaven.” Luke 10:18, KJV
Get that? I am sure that the INSTANT you saw ‘Lightning’, your spirit jumped and you KNEW. Notice how the Christ and His adversary BOTH ae tied to this and THAT is a peek into the deceptive spirit’s use of duplicity and hiding lies within the appearance of the Truth (2 Cor 11:14).
H796: Ashdodi: an inhabitant of Ashdod
An obscure find, I am not familiar enough with the story behind this place & peoples to fit it in, feel free. Ex: “… the Gazathites, and the Ashdothites, the Eshkalonites, …” (Josh 13:3, KJV)
Jewish 576
G576 apobainó: to step off, disembark
“And it shall TURN TO you for a testimony.” Luke 12:13 KJC
“For I know that this shall TURN TO my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,” Phil 1:19, KJV
H576 ‘I’ or ‘me’ 16 Occurrences, 2 Ezra; 14 DANIEL
“But as for ME, this secret is not revealed to me for any wisdom that I have more than any living, but for their sakes that shall make known the interpretation to the king, and that thou mightest know the thoughts of thy heart.” (Daniel 2:30, KJV)
I see this as revealing an entanglement of the idea of “turning”, as in repentance, turning FROM this TO that, and its occurrence, often, in relation to a TURNING towards Salvation, into the total deception of turning INTO something else at ‘Ascension’, and a misrepresentation of the accepting of the LIE to become ‘ascended’ as being the same as what we know needs to be Repentance and a turning FROM the flesh TO surrender to Christ. The “I”, or “me” reference reinforces the PERSONAL nature of this TURNING and that 87% of the time it occurs in DANIEL, well…
The ‘295' references escape me and I will surmise this is due to their nature and my Holy Spirit insights aren’t comfy in that space. Again, in case your eyes are opened to what mine are not:
DeleteSatanic 295
G295 Amphipolis: Amphipolis, a city in Macedonia so called, because the Strymon flowed around it. From the base of amphoteros and polis; a city surrounded by a river; Amphipolis, a place in Macedonia -- Amphipolis.
H295 Achiezer: "my brother is help," two Israelites
“And for a sacrifice of peace offerings, two oxen, five rams, five he goats, five lambs of the first year: this was the offering of Ahiezer the son of Ammishaddai.” Num 7:71 KJV
I would want to unpack the symbolism of a city surrounded by a river, which feels very significant, as well as the numbers and types of sacrifices mentioned to start with.
The Artist
The artist’s age is a TIME marker. Prophecy is all about WHAT happens WHEN, so, time markers, involving the inception/manifestation/creation of something, or its maker, are significant. What about the number ‘73’ ties this to being significant NOW?
73 is the 21st prime number. Its mirror (37) is the 12th and its mirror (21) is the product of multiplying 7 and 3. ... In binary, 73 is a palindrome, 1001001 which backwards is 1001001.
Being the result of 3x7x3, a highly special number tied to the Divine as (7+7+7)+(7+7+7)+ (7+7+7) makes obvious and, being the 21st Prime (3x7), also echoes this. The binary version being palindromic speaks to being the SAME backwards and forwards, or, from the beginning to the end, knowing the end from the beginning, etc., all of which point to aspects of our Abba (James 1:17; Isaiah 46:10; Rev 22:13). All is consistent with misappropriation of things of Abba, as seen throughout. (Gen 3:1)
Jimboni, you might be interesting in this one, this is super strong meat (Achtung!) regarding the BRAZEN SERPENT: Dr. Stephen Pidgeon on the serpent, the dragon, the bread, the Fish, the stone and the serpent Blessings! :)
DeleteGreat teaching, I really enjoyed the better understanding of the Serpent on the Rod, that has never "set right" with me. I knew there was something I wasn't seeing and now I understand. Beautiful! Blessings - Sherry
DeleteG0073 agón: a gathering, contest, struggle
ReplyDelete"In secular Greek 73 (agṓn) refers to a gathering to see the games, or the place of contest (Homer), or the Olympus games themselves, or some smaller contest in particular – the gymnikos, hippikos, and mousikos – and more generally, any struggle or battle" (Nigel Turner, Christian Words, 81).
“…having the same CONFLICT which ye saw in me, and now hear to be in me.” Phil 1:30 KJV
“I have fought a good FIGHT, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:” 2 Tim 4:7
H0073 abnate: girdle, sash (1) of High Priests (of uncertain derivation)
“And these are the garments which they shall make; a breastplate, and an ephod, and a robe, and a broidered coat, a mitre, and a GIRDLE; and they shall make holy garments for Aaron thy brother, and his sons, that he may minister unto me in the priest's office.” (Exo 28:4)
Regarding TIME and this artwork, are we not NOW GATHERING, much as they were instructed to do prior to Pentecost (Luke 24:49) in anticipation of another GATHERING? Meanwhile, have we not also commented upon another GATHERING happening in the camp of the enemy & TPTB, NOW as well (Matt 24:28)? In context, this GATHERING is to assemble to WATCH A FIGHT or BATTLE/CONTEST and that is also over the target here. Once again we also see the DUALITY of the reference in light of Paul’s usages of the word and the context of THIS artist/work.
For the H0073 reference, quite interesting that this goes right to the Priestly Garments and the EPHOD, “an elaborate garment worn by the high priest, and upon which the Hoshen, or breastplate containing Urim and Thummim, rested” (Wikipedia). The Urim and Thummim being a device of Divine communication to the Israelites. So much packed into THAT both in terms of clouding between Godly and Un-Godly revelation as well as High Office vs. Low: Duality, Deception, symbolic misrepresentation of priestly authority for starters. Quite honestly I am sensing I only hit the surface of this iceberg. That this is in New Babylon, by some accountings, well, I would be curious to see its physical placement in relation to the Palmyra arch, hmmm?
In summary this seems a power-packed, uber-deceptive monolith of sorts capturing many, many lies and deceptions and insults in the Face of a Holy God and designed to snare every blind passerby. In terms of being a signpost for an impending exit? We are OUTTAHERE! Maranatha!
OK, reading through it now, I have one more. On this last point, very interesting that the Gentile (Greek) reference is GATHERING and the Hebrew reference points to PRIESTLY GARMENTS OF OFFICE. Meditate on THAT one, Maranatha!
DeleteAmen Annabel and Jimboni! Great stuff, thank you, meditating on! Maranatha!
DeleteOh Jimboni, this is awesome... TY for all your digging which already makes me feel guilt to have stirred you up such a lot... Did you watch the video clip btw? Uraeus is the God behind the Egyptian cobra on the Pharao's crown. Lead and steal are the materials. Rockefeller Plaza is no coincidence as well... Yeah, there's a lot more to it for sure! TY again, dear brother! Much love & blessings YSIC
DeleteOh, wow, just wow. This is a deep well to be mined. I sense you are right Jimboni, this is surface, but there is much, much more.
DeleteCould I ask your kind indulgence for thoughts on 153? I know the obvious, but there is something more and its alluding me. i was given a dream a couple years back where I was shown carefully things which were occurring, both good and bad and told, "Do not be concerned, this must be done in the Spirit of 153". I could not remember upon awakening, but knew everything occurring was said to be done in this Spirit of 153. I do know the difference in a pizza dream and a dream from Holy Spirit and this was definitely of Holy Spirit. Dan Matson has shown some reoccurrences of the number 153 in his charting, so that's one thing.
Blessings - Sherry
The first thing that came to mind, Sherry was “sifting”. The sifting of the fish. There are usually some undesirables brought up along with the keepers when net fishing.
DeleteWheat and tares kind of thing since you can’t sort them until the net is full and hauled in. Just yesterday as I was praying about all the deceptive doctrine everywhere, I felt the Lord say in my heart that it’s a “sifting” tool. Just a thought on the “153”.
Blessings to you and TY for sharing that.
Good day all, glad you are enjoying the dish I whipped up above. Annabel, yes, dear sister, ofc I watched the video and drew from it in my analysis! Your post reminds me of something in my mind but which didn't get included in my post (among many things). One detail which emerged while we were decoding the 9/23/17 sign was the detail of a woman wearing a 'crown' of 12 stars.
DeleteWhereas most had simply accepted this word picture as a convenient one, a thing worn on your head is a crown, why call what the woman of the Great Sign is wearing a HAT? OFC not. However, when one looks at the outline of Leo and the 3 wondering stars above Virgo's head, it actually outlines, very specifically, the Pharaoh's Crown worn for the combined Egyptian empire, the serpent being part of that. John immediately 'saw' the configuration mirroring a Crown which he was familiar with. Quite an 'aha' moment when I saw that, and the Serpent detail being captured by Our Beloved Creator in crafting the Heavens to mirror the Crown of Egypt tells me it is certainly worthy of inspection, Maranatha!
Sherry G., the primary spot where 153 arises as significant is John 21:1-11. BibleStudy.org has a good little article on this at http://www.biblestudy.org/bibleref/meaning-of-numbers-in-bible/153.html. In short, this number can symbolize the Fullness of the Gentiles, the Abundance of Our Lord's Blessing, the need to have His Direction in our lives/ministries/work in order to be abundantly fruitful, and much more.
DeleteIn light of the Word you heard, things 'done in the Spirit of 153' would speak to me of details within the choreography happening NOW to prepare the Bride, Finish the Harvest/Fullness of Gentiles being brought in, prepping Israel's jealousy, sifting the Body, shining a light on the deceiver, his tools and adherents, and all the other details we banter on about here. Of greatest encouragement which I sense in this Word is the detail of Jesus' PERSONAL involvement in the story, AFTER the cross, and its outcome tied DIRECTLY to THAT, Maranatha!
Thank you, interesting that both you and Sheila bring up the "sifting" which I believe is what has been preeminent in Trump's Presidency. The final opportunity prior to our leaving - choose now which side you will align with. Sifting! Blessings - Sherry
DeleteI just exited work and saw the somewhat hazy sky with a few palm trees around . and thought about the soon coming of Jesus. I happened to view the video reference you posted Annabel, this is shocking, of course as Christians we are seeking God's purpose and his will. And yet we know that in these evil times there will be Alters that exemplify or the Demonic Realm. What awesome references JimBoni to consider way ahead of me with all the numbers, so forth. My first thought is related to Moses and the serpent and the Garden of Eden we are starting at the beginning in the end with a serpent in the garden and now this monstrosity. my prayers are for those around that area for the Demonic influence to be held back. Even so Lord Jesus come Maranatha
ReplyDeleteDear VeeBee my sister, if you're interested in Moses and the beaten serpent I've just posted a YT video link to Jimboni (scroll upwards a bit) from the CEPHER channel with Dr Stephen Pidgeon it's truly awesome but pretty strong meat... ("The serpent, the dragon, the bread, the fish, the rock and the serpent" uploaded today 5/3/18) Blessings to you! :)
DeleteAnnabel thank you I will watch this this evening Lord bless you
DeleteLOL, I woke up this morning with a strong sense to “be on my toes today”. For what exactly, IDK. But I went to the Bing Art and who knew? It’s Star Wars Day! Pictures an old movie set in Tunisia with what looks like a rocket parked outside of a cave dwelling and in the accompanying description it says “May the Fourth be with you!”
ReplyDeleteHad to laugh at that:-D
Have a Blessed Friday All as we enter yet another Sabbath Day!
Maranatha!
Ya’ll gotta catch the 360 Google Doodles/Spotlight
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I caught it @julian t
“The Bride, the Dragon, the Waters, No Time”.
It’s insane and notice the clock with no hands and the bride’s clothes change into white as she boards the “rocket” with her kingly groom and and takes off.
Blessings!
Thank you Sheila very much! Your experience and your thoughts are comforting for me today. It's very hard in my sickness, I'm praying all day long! Be blessed very much! And also have a sense of departure! Maranatha!
DeleteHang in there Alla.
DeleteNot long left at all, Sister. It’s gonna be like a whirlwind from now on out. He’s gotta be getting us out of the way pretty quick.
Just keep right on praying and I’m praying with you:-)
Much Love and Blessings!!!
Sheila B., Funny you chose to use the word whirlwind as it reminds me of Bro Todd's recent video where the Whirlwind is spoken of in 2 Kings 2:11 concerning Elijah being taken up in a whirlwind on Evangelist Jill Austin's tombstone which he 'happened upon'. Yes, it IS gonna be like a Whirlwind now until the BIG one which sweeps us ALL UP! Maranatha
Delete...may I just note here that Enoch describes the WHIRLWIND and the experience of FLYING several times over and over again, even if you don't believe the book to be inspired? Hmmm... Well, I personally get pretty much information out of this to be prepared what I may be facing soon (as a physical experience). MARANATHA!
DeleteI think our Biblical minds are thinking alike these days, Jimboni, and by the way, your unpacking of the Uraeus altar in New Babylon was quite insightful. Another monolithic moment as they reach up to welcome their false gods.
DeleteNow here’s one I just gotta point out just because horses play an integral part in the prophetic word
and I love ‘em.
Tomorrow is the running of the 144th
Kentucky Derby with a field of 20 horses.
The likely favored (and quite handsome) colt
is Justify. He is #7
coming out of the Post. Odds are 3-1
and he is 3 for 3 undefeated as a 3 yr old, BUT he must contend with the “curse of Apollo” in a bid to become the first horse unraced as a 2 yr old to win the Derby in 136 years.
GK# 136–the praise of God!
I don’t bet but If I’m here to see it, I’ll be rooting for this guy and the #5 horse Audible to come in right behind him. His odds are 8-1.
Blessings All as we strive for that great Finish Line ourselves:-D.
Annabel, lol. I seriously doubt any of us are prepared for the “experience” of the Rapture, regardless of how much we read about it, Sister. IMO, we can’t comprehend that transformation in this old flesh. And we certainly cannot comprehend what it will actually be like to be in the presence of the Living God. Those great men of the Bible couldn’t stand up in the flesh. Even Paul couldn’t explain his body re being caught up in 2Cor.12:2.
DeleteI can’t imagine such Glory as we shall see on full display and I get weak in the knees just thinking of such a thing as that! TY for the inspiration to turn my thoughts on it just now. See you there real soon, I hope:-)
Maranatha!
Sheila B., I gotta say it is simply getting too much. All those finds around the Derby, wow. It seems as if Our Lord is simply 'pouring it on' and how could it be any plainer? Are we all nuts and seeing something in everything when its not or is He simply putting things just about everywhere now and opening our eyes to see?
DeleteWhen looking at the creation as a whole, fully interconnected and reflective of the One Who's Hands Created it, it only makes sense that EVERYTHING now would be screaming out at us, as the MOMENT IS SIMPLY AT HAND. How could it be otherwise? (Rom 1:20) It occurred to me, earlier today, that if it is written, "He who has eyes to see, let him..." then these, and similar statements, clearly tells us that THERE WILL BE THOSE TO WHOM HE GRANTS INSIGHTS. IF the creation is currently pouring forth speech, day and night, what would YOU expect would be their main refrain? HE IS COMING! Adding these 2 things together and, of course, we will be seeing this stuff, like the Derby, all the blessed time! Well done, Maranatha!
Amen to that verse
DeleteAnd your follow up thoughts, Jimboni. Sometimes I do feel a bit crazy, but when I saw that horse’s name this morning, I had to dig in. I’ve always loved to watch the Kentucky Derby and was really struck back when American Pharoah won the Triple Crown. It felt like a sort of oxymoronic judgement being confirmed as I thought of Obama
and all the divisive damage he’d accomplished. TY for Rom.1:20 reminder:-)
Blessings, Brother!
Sheila dear sister I'm some what gifted with vivid imagination (but not with dreams or visions really) so I always try to figure out as good as I can from any description of the bible (and other scriptures of course) what the encounter with the spiritual realm REALLY is like as our forefathers have experienced it and not what sci-fi storyboards make of it. You see, our walk is by faith only but those lived with angels, giants and dinosaurs. I just try to imagine now what we might SEE in fact very soon. I know what Paul wrote but then it was the will of God that he couldn't tell. Enoch, Ezechiel and John describe very clearly what they saw, and with Enoch there are the most detailled descriptions indeed. He states several times that "he understood everything" what God showed him through angels which is absolutely plausible to me from Amos 3:7 and John 15:15 alone (the two witnesses principle). Blessings Dear, seeya soon! :)
DeleteOoh, my Friends, I am so thrilled to read today it wasn't just me. I read the article yesterday about Justify and about fell out of my seat. I thought, I must be manufacturing things in my head, but I can't be because this is too profound. Absolutely nobody can miss this . . . and then I waited. Thank You, Thank You for confirmation we ARE SEEING AND HEARING the voice of Abba Yahweh by His Spirit.
DeleteI'll be on pins and needles watching this one!
A share of being "Before the Throne" - on those rare occasions in worship when I've been able by His Grace to clear my mind and heart of the preoccupations of life, etc. and have been escorted into the Holy of Holies, I can assure you the only response is awe so great I bowed with my face to the ground and did not dare look up. Nothing set, just a sense and I believe it is His overwhelming Holiness. Clearly I was still clothed in sinful flesh, yet we won't be, so it will be different. That's the only thing I can share with you - AWE BEYOND ANY IMAGINING!
Blessings - Sherry
A great Amen to that Sherry!
DeleteIf you've not seen this post on Prophecy Update from Scott, you should take a look. Macron has now poked his head in to FIX the Iranian Nuclear Deal and seems to be running around to all the EU to repair it so Trump won't nix it. This is mentioned right after yesterday's announcement he is raising up a 10 nation army to "defend" Europe. This guy is becoming more and more suspect in my eyes and that's tough since he had risen pretty high to the top of my list of evil to watch.
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Blessings - Sherry
Hey Sherry. He made it to the top for me back before he ever ran for Pres over there. I researched his background after seeing a little story about him in the local paper back in 2016. His name and appearance caught my eye. He certainly had the qualities for it even then.
DeleteBlessings, Sister
Thank you Sherry! All these events now seem to have more prophetic scale, than politic! The world sits now on the powder keg! Blessed be the Lord! Maranatha!
DeleteWonderful it is lifting you up in your spirit. BTW, Hawaii’s most active volcano, Kilauea is known as the Smiley Face Volcano. See Daily Crow's post today. When I saw that, today, not having seen it before, Romans 8:22 came immediately to mind. When we consider that all creation groans under the Fall, and that volcanoes are a harbinger of the end of THAT, isn't it appropriate to see the creation 'smile' on the face of a volcano, especially as they are now signaling something worth smiling about being just ahead? Maranatha!
ReplyDeleteSherry this was somewhat clear as day to me... With Trump, there's always big bluff and great theatre first and then some hot air immediately after. But it MUST happen that way so that Israel will be without any backing ally and acting on her own, probably with a preemptive strike against Iran (Zechariah 5??). Btw I loved your expression "poke the head in" LOL! :) in German, we do this with our noses... Blessings!
ReplyDeleteWe use the same expression "poke the nose in" and it felt a bit odd yesterday as I wrote that, but it was clearly in my spirit he was poking his "head in". Might that not be what the spirit is saying to us with Macron - he is inserting his "human thinking & reasoning" which will always fail? Just had to mention it as you pointed it out and it was an odd phrasing, I felt i when I wrote it.
DeleteSherry Sheila Annabel, Alla, and all of sisters on this site, I had the same thought yesterday and mentioned it to my husband. I saw the pictures the sites from Times of Israel wondering about this man how is rising up and also entering in so smoothly without it without a glitch see that he has the qualities has the qualities to move forward, Lord knows that's what it appears like to me we pray for discernment to be ready and to minister to the people around us. There are so many lost, so many turning their head when I talk about the Lord and what he's done for me. God is faithful and not willing that any perish but that all. Even so Lord Jesus come Maranatha
ReplyDeleteAmen VeeBee! I show the prophetic news to my husband too, he accepts them, but is silent about. Come, Lord Jesus! Maranatha!
DeleteI will be praying for him, only the Lord knows the actual time where one is convicted ... you can rejoice and knowing that God can speak through walls Lord bless you
DeleteA l la .. Maranatha
Never heard or saw one sermon or lesson from chuck Missler. Never even heard of him until about 4 years ago. Some one showed me an article he had written on Ezekiel 4 and the 2520 years of Jewish dispersion. They showed it to me after I had just taught on the subject. I learned it from Arthur Bloomfield who taught on it back in the 1940s and later wrote on it. Misslers work looked like a near exact copy. Just saying
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ReplyDeleteHey fam prayers for you me my mom and my family and all across the world who is in need amen and maranatha ! Time is short xoxo
ReplyDeleteAmen Jeremiah, praying with you, for you and yours, and for all! Maranatha!
DeleteGod's Warrior amen we are praying for one another that we will remain strong and him with Thanksgiving
DeleteDear family, the "sevens" and "seventys" ARE biblically important as we all do agree (I hope?). May 14th approaches just in about a couple of days (!!!) and I just want to point out another SSM ('Super Strong Meat') bible teaching of Stephen Pidgeon on Daniel 9:24 that was uploaded on YT yesterday on the CEPHER channel regarding the common translation error compared with what really is to be found behind the original Hebrew text. Perhaps some of you want to know what that is...
ReplyDeleteCEPHER Moments - Seventy! Seventy! The Prophecy of Daniel 9:24 (click!)
I have acknowledged Daniel 9:2 as a pattern of historical events around Israel, prayer and observance of 1948 already years ago, so this was just a very strong CONFIRMATION to me (regardless the just-in-time correction of the Hebrew text). We might be out of here by the end of the month with a very high probability. Don't bother about your summer vacation reservations but pray pray pray, ask Yahushah for some personal confirmation and GET READY!! Maranatha, we're leaving! :=D
Amen sistter I am do ready to go home and leave this world maranatha !!!
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DeleteIt was a great teaching, very interesting and I think perhaps the greatest importance in it is for those who are Left Behind, The Remnant especially, for it will add as another confirmation for them.
DeleteI've listened to 2 of Pidgeon's teachings now you've linked and enjoyed them both. One of the things I always loved about Hebrew Roots is the way they are able to make the Old Testament light up as a burning bush to give you more insight into the New, which is almost always quoting the Old.
The Blind Spot I have found in Hebrew Roots, we all have them, is they are so emotionally, mentally and even spiritually connected to Israel they are unable to see the dispensational separation which occurred at the Cross. They just conceptionally do not see the Church (both Gentile and Hebrew) as the Bride of Christ and a separate entity from Israel. Their thinking, most often, is to see Israel as the Root and all are grafted into Israel. That cannot be correct because Israel has been "broken off" because of their unbelief in Mashiach. The truth is Yahshua is the Root & the Vine and Israel was broken off and most yet to be grafted back in. We are grafted into the Root & Branch of Yahshua. They must all come back and be grafted in for they are existing without growth, food or life on a dead root without Yahshua.
Because of their failure to grasp this point (generally, I don't know about Pidgeon yet) you find most in Hebrew Roots adhere to a Post Trib Rapture scenario. They just simply cannot see "the body" being split - it's the tree and root analogy above - they're still thinking we're grafted into the earthly Israel. Some Messianics are seeing it now, but it has been a really hard slog for those friends of mine who are devoted Hebrew Roots teachers and attempting to convey this understanding. Most Hebrew Roots don't give The Rapture a passing thought, they're prepping.
So very much to learn with them, back to my absolute requirement for any teaching by any human being, I don't care what label they wear. Eat the meat and spit out the bones. God doesn't do labels - that's humankind. Until we stop dividing ourselves into rooms we call denominations and stop locking the doors the body can't function properly. Behind every one of those man-made doors is truth you won't understand if you're not willing to go there. Behind every one of those doors is also error, because they haven't been exposed to the truth behind the other doors.
If we were properly operating as the Body of Christ we would have blood and oxygen (Truth) flowing to all parts of the body and error could be more easily understood by everyone and corrections would more easily be made. Truth could be heard and experienced by all, not kept locked up. We're a body and every organ is different with different purposes - not a box of rooms, or at least that's what we should be. If we could manage to tear down the walls of division and become "The Way" as Jesus' set forth in scripture, then all the parts of the body would be operating in support of the other parts. We would absolutely not be the same, a hand is not a heart, but we would be working in coordination one with the other. Blessings - Sherry
I really hope that this is it. I don't know why, but I feel kind of weary. I should not really feel this way, since I don't actually have anything to complain about. However, I think it might be because of now consciously trying to follow the narrow path, instead of just going with the flow. Despite that, I feel more blessed than ever. Especially with all of you doing such amazing work. I don't really have the time to dig around current world event thats applicable to Bible prophecy (I'm a middle school teacher in a country with a poor education system), but with all the work you do, I get the time to just click on the links and read the articles you dug up. Thank you so much!! Xx
DeleteAmen sister Sherry I totally agree its sad that people even seperate each other with these labels and denominations as the body of christ should be ALL believers in the finished work of our savior Jesus Christ working together not all fighting against one another the truth be told it goes even deeper you even have division within each church or denomination between themselves as satan has infected all and spread everywhere pitting one brother against another and families against each other you right and im wrong vice versa ! Maranatha
DeleteJust a side-note… Based on (for ex.) what Sheila shared about Stephen Pidgeon, the problem when it comes to his stuff isn’t that we’re not mature enough to digest “the meat” he shares.
DeleteSherry, I agree that the Body of Christ should and would function much-much better without the different “factions”! Sadly, I think so, that it will continue this way until the rapture. Until then, our sin nature in this sinful world will prevent a perfectly working “Church Body”. I could be wrong, but that’s my current understanding.
@ Sherry I'm glad you liked it and profited from. I find it hard to follow him (reasoning at his speed rate as non native I have to absolutely concentrate LOL) but I love the "language and etymology part" so much but which may not be everyone's favourite of interest. As far as I have understood Stephen Pidgeon is not at all "Hebrew roots" as you may know it (the false deluded racist twist of today) he is a born again brother for sure and no academic scholar (got his degree NOT from theology) but I can imagine the apostle Paul might have taught a similar way (I love that!) but was often misunderstood as well 2 Peter 3:15-16
ReplyDelete@Andrea you're so much welcome, I'm weary too and pray for His return and mercy for us daily. May you still profit from the nuggets we try to collected and present here (personally, I'm off work and world since 1,5 years now so I can occupy with such things) if this goal of uplifting and encouragement has been achieved when we finally go home it was all worth it!! Much love and blessings to you, have a fruitful time all of you altogether MARANATHA! XOXO :)
I'm so sorry, somehow my phone now always opens a new thread when I just try to use the answer button... but I will not type this whole post again with 1 finger! :D
DeleteAnnabel, he is a bit hard to follow if you haven't spent a lot of time in Messianic or Hebrew Roots Shuls because he uses the Hebrew terms fluidly and quickly and thus you can lose the scriptural references he points to if you're not careful. I'm happy to hear he's modified some of Hebrew Roots teachings or misunderstandings and maybe doesn't align with the Post Trib teaching. The Word studies alone are worth the effort. I found it interesting Cepher agrees with the KJV on 2 Thess 2 - Day of Christ and Day of the Lord as 2 distinct references and not the same as NIV and later translations use it. Without this translation error in many Bibles there would be far less argument about the A/C showing up before the Rapture. It is not what Scripture says when translated properly as KJV and Cepher and a few others do. We leave at the Day of Christ - The Tribulation begins at the Day of the Lord. 2 completely different words yet later translations show them both as Day of the Lord - BIG PROBLEM.
DeleteNora, I know you're right the "problem" of schisms will not be rectified until Christ returns, but my encouragement is to those who are watching, waiting, seeking to know and discern truth to not be a part of that and to not miss out on the blessings "others" in the body have to offer. We won't do it right either, but if we are aware, we'll do better than if we're not aware of the problem.
One last encouragement listening to Pidgeon or others who use a different translation than you are familiar with. I've studied with Halleluyah Scriptures, with The Scriptures and with just about every other version I can put my hands on and here's what I've found (the same applies to listening to him). I find my mind is forced to pay closer attention because of the newness of the wording, the difference from what I'm accustomed to. My human mind wrongly believes it already knows what a certain passage says because I've read it for many years. When I read it in Halleluyah Scriptures or others, I find the substitution of the proper Hebrew Names for towns and for the names of Yahweh and Yahshua, etc. force me to slow down, refocus and re-read it again with new eyes. Is it necessary, certainly not? Is it helpful, it has been for me? My ears and eyes have been able to see secondary and tertiary meanings I had completely overlooked because of my familiarity. If it helps - be blessed - if not - Ignore me! Blessings - Sherry
Andrea, a normal dealing with life , it is enough time so I do come here for many of the updates spiritual encouragement and teachings of the word. Will continue to pray that God will sustain you during these times they are definitely challenging but we have the strength of the Lord and the power of His might 2 walkthrough it all. Even so Lord Jesus come Maranatha
ReplyDelete,Annabel that was my first response to the Cepheryr publishing group videos, so advanced in word and scripture. But there are little pearls, that can be gleaned and apply to our lives. I like the part where dr. Pidgeon talks about the consistency of God and how many things are replicated throughout history. As he mentioned the number 7 I thought about the seven days of the week that we still have started from the day of creation interesting that none of the evolutionist touch that trend throughout the world. And the Four Seasons, and the four corners of the Earth . May God give each of us wisdom and discernment as we study his word and seek and save the Lost in one Accord. Lord bless you thank you. Maranatha
ReplyDeleteJimboni and Sherry, good race! And my favorite part after Justify broke the curse of Apollo was the jockey Mike Smith’s first words giving all the glory to his Lord and Savior Jesus Christ:-)
ReplyDelete(and I really think Audible maybe pulled out 2nd by a hair. Have to see the slo-mo call on that one, tho)
Blessings and Looking Up!
And also, he never got any mud on his face:-D
DeleteI must confess, Sherry, I read the Kentucky Derby details .... and peeked further, Thank you. Justice prevailed over the Good magic and Audible. Reminds me of the scripture. The Lord says His word l prevailed Acts 18:20 . As we experience these last days. consider the occultic activity, etc., and note, the children of the Lord almighty are protected under His wings. In looking at the audible signs here on earth, we are justified because of God's justice, Psalms 37:28 , ... the Lord loves justice and will not forsake His saints... they are preserved forever; and most resounding in my heart is Matthew 12:18 ... Jesus will proclaim justice to the Gentiles. And finally in Amos, we learn that the -Amos 5:24, ... let justice roll down like waters... We are justified. On the other side of the coin, God will bring about justice to the earth wit his wrath. Here we stand and wait at the end times, where the Lord is speaking to our hearts every day.
DeleteHmm!... the horse proclaiming the news... In the word, a horse may symbolizes warfare. Yes, more study is needed. In Zechariah 1:8 , a red horse appears in a vision; thereafter, John in Revelation 6:28 looked and saw a fiery red one (Ah! Justice is red .... chestnut color). Well, simply saying, all this- to remind myself that the Lord is speaking clearly and loudly to the church. He is coming, we must not waver, we must stay on watch, encourage others, and pray. My sincere gratitude to each of you for sharing your words of encouragement. See you in the air... Maranatha
I just gotta add one more thing here and I’ll just take it that our Lord is encouraging us to not to give up on our race to the Victory that He’s already won.
DeleteSo Apollo set the “cursed” record in 1882. That “curse” was rectified by #7’s Justify in today’s Run for the Roses
during record breaking rainfall.
G#1882–a straightening up again, rectification, correction.
IDK, but I’ll sure be glad when Jesus returns to rectify the curse that has beset this world for so long.
Maranatha!
VeeBee, TY for those inspiring thoughts and Scriptures. We are hearing His voice all around us. Good
Deletestudy, Sister:-)
Yes, VeeBee that was inspiring - your words and thoughts.
DeleteSheila, I finished the Paradox Brown video and had read a portion also of the transcript on the book of Enoch. They surly had dug into scripture in search of answers and have moved their position from approving of Enoch to saying it is not needed.
They have other resources that delve more into other topics like fallen angels and demons. It was good to the end and affirmed to me that this book along with the others is not necessary. It is the Bible - Sola Scriptura.
Hey Cathi. That’s where I have to stand. He gave me more than enough in the Biblical Canon to grow and feed my faith and awe, yet not so much as to supersede the need for that faith and awe. An amazingly perfect balance that necessitates
Deletea prayerful and personal relationship
with The Triune God
through Jesus Christ
and Him Crucified.
I know in my heart that it fully contains the Way, the Truth and the Life. I have to sift everything else through that.
Love and Blessings, Sister:-)
Okay I was utterly shocked after learning about Lord speaking to us through the Kentucky Derby I went to the store to buy some food. Alas, we have fingerprint ID in the stores now for customers purchase s the world is ready for the mark of the beast oh Lord let your church be ready when you come to the air to take us home
ReplyDeleteAmen Sheila we are waiting for the promise of our Redemption into the clouds. Thank you for spuring our hearts on towards God's words.
ReplyDeleteCathi G,, Amen, God s continuing Fellowship with us during these times. I was making some dinner and asking the Lord will you please come soon Lord we are very tired and weary. I know his timing will be perfect because he is a God that does not lie.
I have very little exposure to the Book of Enoch other than listening to the parable of the vineyard and so I cannot make any Spirit-filled comments and furthermore my bucket of knowledge is empty on this topic. And, so for now I'm reading the Bible and listening here and there but the word is my main source. I can appreciate that there are other things that are written that may give or shed light on the scripture. Yes, it is awesome, to listen to some of the writings of Josephus although not inspired they share a bit of history for reflection in comparison to God's word. Lord watch over us as we study and search his ways, in the book of Isaiah,... for his ways are higher than our ways and his thoughts are higher than our thoughts. Maranatha
Wow, so many wonderful comments, thoughts, insights, exhortations and encouragements by all for all, amen. Only thought percolating up to add is: HE KNEW. and He Loves us, so, He Encourages us, Tells us, Watch, when you see ALL these things begin to happen, HANG IN THERE and KNOW your redemption draweth nigh, Maranatha! Blessings Shalom
ReplyDeleteAmen, The Lord is filling our cup. Watchman on the Wall 88 posted https://youtu.be/gBoPil3rFvo
ReplyDeleteHe refers to Psalms 20 not trusting on horses and chariots
I feel deep despair in my heart; I cannot & will not let this moment pass without due consideration for all the Christians who may seek Missler's teachings out. I must speak up. He was an author who read and "borrowed" (actually plagiarized) from books on the OCCULT. It's true that he was very intelligent but no more intelligent than satan, who loves to mix a little truth with a few lies thrown in to build on.
ReplyDeletePurloining New Age Ideas
By Gaylene Goodroad
"...there is evidence to suggest that our world and everything in it…
are also only ghostly images, projections from a level of reality
so beyond our own it is literally beyond both space and time."
~ New Age author Michael Talbot, 1991[1]
"...there is evidence to suggest that our world and everything in it
are also only ghostly images, projections from a level of reality
so beyond our own it is literally beyond both space and time."
~ Christian author Chuck Missler, 1999[2]
Troubled by the physicists that Missler was constantly citing in 'Cosmic Codes', I did a word search on the physicists Missler mentions – Bohr and Bohm – & added Pribram. Up popped a book titled 'The Holographic Universe' by Michael Talbot. It became apparent that Talbot’s book was a primary source for Missler’s metaphysical worldview. Talbot credited David Bohm & Karl Pribram with being “generous with both their time & their ideas” & credited Marilyn Ferguson & her book 'The Aquarian Conspiracy' as a primary source. Talbot, who said he grew up in a psychic family & had many psychic experiences, wrote extensively about the paranormal in his book.
This observation—“that Talbot’s book served as a primary source for Missler’s metaphysical worldview”—led me to take a closer look at Talbot’s book. 'The Holographic Universe' has a “ghostly images” quote on Talbot’s Introduction (see top of this post)! I recognized the identical statement from Missler’s 'Cosmic Codes: Messages from the Edge of Eternity'.
To be sure this was not an oversight, I compared Talbot’s published 1991 and Missler’s 1999 (2004 revised edition).
Identical quotations appear in both books—but so do multiple other passages as well. I searched for Talbot’s name (or book) in Missler’s 'Cosmic Codes'. He is not cited, nor listed in the appendices, endnotes, or index. This is an inexplicable omission, because Talbot’s words & source work are clearly incorporated into Missler’s book. Entire paragraphs have been imported from Talbot’s book, many times word-for-word, without any attribution—even including Talbot’s original source work in the footnotes. Talbot’s original graphic of a hologram model is also found in 'Cosmic Codes'.
“A holographic universe” is the primary subject in the last section of 'Cosmic Codes'. It is also the title of an article, purportedly by Chuck Missler, in the 2012 issue of Personal Update. Adapted from Cosmic Codes, it begins with the “ghostly images” quote (provided at the top of this post)—also found in Talbot’s book! This teaching is also available from Koinonia House as a DVD with briefing notes called—“Holographic Universe.”[6] Talbot’s “ghostly images” quote also appears in the advertisement for this video, which is also available at Amazon.com.
ReplyDeleteI also noted that just enough of Talbot’s original writing was cherry-picked to avoid the more explicit New Age beliefs displayed in Talbot’s The Holographic Universe. As Sarah Leslie pointed out in her Alien Encounters review (Chapter 4), Talbot was very simpatico with Marilyn Ferguson, author New Age book, The Aquarian Conspiracy, & other arcane advocates. Not only do these new discoveries show more about the dark and sinister roots of Missler’s teachings, but they also reveal the true teachers behind Missler's teachings.
These findings go well beyond simple oversight or shoddy research. They raise serious ethical and integrity questions—over & above the obvious New Age & occult ideas that have been smuggled into the church from this book by a Christian author.
https://christfirstforum.com/chuck-missler-false-teacher-t8954.html
He is very popular because he teaches on the rapture and bible prophecy and aligns himself with Chuck Smith and Hal Lindsey and a few other well known prophecy teachers. . He is no expert and in fact teaches a false doctrine about angels.
ReplyDeleteChuck Missler on UFOs and the Nephilim
Chuck Missler describes in his series "Return of the Nephilim" that the current UFO abductions are linked to the Genesis 6 Sons of God of the days of Noah. Flying disks are a common image in cultures throughout history and stories of gods coming to earth to have children with humans is also a common story. He describes that this may be another reason God flooded the earth, because human/fallen angel hybrids were a contamination of the image of God in man. Many abduction stories describe reproductive experiments.
Chuck Missler states that this hybriding is a plan of Satan that he will use in the end times to deceive the nations into worshiping the Anti-christ. Already, many new-agers are reading the channeled messages of "alien" beings (really they are trans-dimensional rather than from a distant planet). These messages state that they are here to help us evolve to our next level. They will help us all to unite and live in peace. These are deceiving spirits.
Genesis 6 (New International Version)
Genesis 6
The Flood
1 When men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with [a] man forever, for he is mortal ; his days will be a hundred and twenty years."
4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.
5 The LORD saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time. 6 The LORD was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain. 7 So the LORD said, "I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth—men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and birds of the air—for I am grieved that I have made them."
This is nothing but pure out sensationalist and false teachings.
This Nephilim theory has only been taught in the last 40 years in some of the modern day teachings and there is plenty on this site that explains that. I do not know much about the author but if he is teaching and propagated that the Sons of God impregnated women in Geneses six are angels then I can not give much credence to this for that is false. I do believe that his theory has been taught so that people would believe in aliens and UFO's A prime example is the movies of our day and the last Indiana Jones movie by Stephen Stillburg described these so called Giant Demons as such.
For reference go here: that-angels-can-procreate-t504.html?hilit=Nephilim
And Here: post14845.html?hilit=Nephilim#p14845
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1790&hilit=Nephilim
Beware my brethren!
Chuck is teaching a false doctrine. There is nothing written in the Bible that he can use to prove his theory; there is Scripture he can twist to fit what he believes and would like to lead others to believe . I have tried many times to get others that believe this false doctrine to think a bit about what they have come to believe. It could not happen because angels are spirits and could not and still can not mate. God did not create angels to mate. There are no female angels and all the host of Heaven were created ministering spirits; spirits can not mate so neither can they procreate . If Christians would just think a bit about this fact that sometime after being created one third of the angels followed satan and satan from the *Beginning* was evil.
ReplyDeleteNow we know many has been taught to believe that when they read that the sons of God took daughters of men that the sons of God to be angels .. Now here is the thing, the third of angels that followed satan [from the beginning ] God would not have called them His sons... God said the fallen angels were satan's angels; "satan and his angels" So the sons of God were not fallen angels and the two thirds that did not follow satan would have not taken daughters of men..And angels that fell were still spirits; demon spirits and spirits can not mate. God did not give fallen angels the same attributes that He has, including the power to procreate .. The Lord God is the Creator and He created all that is in six days and nothing was created after the six days of creation.
Fred, the teaching of Fallen Angels having intercourse with human women has absolutely not been taught solely in the last 40 years. I don't know where you are coming from, but I rebuke this comment in the Mighty Name of Jesus Christ. There is ample scholarly work from others, not simply Missler, but peer reviewed scholarly work which details the truth of this teaching. The view this was merely the daughters of Seth intermarrying with the sons of Cain, commonly referred to as the Sethite View. This view fails on numerous points, not the least of which is the mating produced giants spoken of repeatedly in Scripture. Secondly, the divine beings which participated in the transgression are bound in Tartarus "in chains" because they "left their first estate". To dispute this is to dispute the words of Jude and others. Demons on the earth today are the spirits of the offspring of this mating, the Nephilim. This mating I have termed the 2nd Transgression which must be rectified finally by Christ Himself at His return. There are 3 Transgressions - the Fall in the Garden, the Fallen Angels mating with women AND DISCLOSING DIVINE KNOWLEDGE TO MANKIND and the Tower of Babel. These are the 3 Transgressions which occurred in scripture which had to be rectified by Christ.
DeleteWestern thinking has attempted to bury the 2nd Transgression simply because we are so uncomfortable with the supernatural and especially as it relates to sexual activity. The Hebrews in their culture had no such hesitation and their literature is replete with information regarding this activity.
Satan managed to conceal this transgression from the Western World for many, many years but certainly only as an afterthought. Has it been more widely studied in the previous 40 years, certainly, as knowledge has increased the truth is returning. But, this does not allow us to make blanket statements that it was never taught before. This is reminiscent of the claim the Rapture was only taught since the late 1800's. It is a lie purely and simply and you should not repeat it.
If Missler used another's work and did not give attribution, that is wrong. Just because another author took truth and mingled it with the occult and came to similar conclusions does not make me dismiss someone's entire life and the fruit exhibited as worthless as you've done. God is the judge of the living and the dead and not mankind.
All comments above from http://christfirstforum.com/chuck-missler-false-teacher-t8954.html
ReplyDeleteCheck out: https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/01/09/do-not-be-unequally-yoked-together-with-unbelievers-chuck-missler-and-roger-oakland-exposed/
ReplyDeletehttp://scatteredsheepreport.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/review-of-chuck-missler-at-red-river.html
ReplyDeleteDear Fred, TY for all of your concern which I find the same loving towards the brethren and very interesting too. I do personally not know the Missler teachings in-depth but can imagine how he might have mixed sth up from occult teachings when getting older. This often happens when some brother is getting a 'prominent' teacher with a large audience, they expect him to know about everything then like God but perhaps some details about certain scripture were just not given to him. But those 'big names' then just cannot admit that. To not disappoint their 'followers' or under pressure of always to provide with sth "new" these teachers then begin to pretend knowledge they didnt quite check nor understand properly but borrowed elsewhere. Just a suggestion as I esteem him as a brother in Christ but don't know him in person.
ReplyDeleteBUT - and there's the huge "BUT" again! - I have to note that if Missler would have indeed read the books of Enoch and Jubilees (oh, sorry to mention them again!) he wouldn't have to borrow from New Age as Enoch is truly biblical and to be trusted as scripture since it was rediscovered in multiple copies with the Dead Sea Scrolls after WW2 (which marks the time span you mention since people in the church began to deal with it again). Jubilees is also called "little Genesis" and provides also with much details about the angelic realm that complement the book of Genesis answering many scriptural and logical questions from there very easily - especially the descendance of the Watchers and their different "races". Many questions can be answered by just reading through these two books and you can spare every New Age false teacher.
But probably the New Age priests of today have read the apocrypha before and got more "insight" from here (which they of course twisted on their own then!) as Missler did. The UFO topic is a special 'American' one as Satan always disguises in any form people would like to see him disguised. No other nation as the American has so much focused on UFOs in fact (and likewise no other nation has so many reported sightings of course!), but it has spread from there by Hollywood movies which are again American only. Angels are interdimensional spiritual beings, they can take either shape which is scriptural don't worry = 2 Corinthians 11:14
In short I can again only recommend to read Enoch and Jubilees to compare with the Missler teachings. It is sad that he just copied without quoting correctly (in science, you get your degree revoked if you do that in your thesis!) but in general he might have not been THAT wrong. It was the wrong source though he took from and the wrong way! I hope you understand what I'm saying. Please read Enoch and Jubilees for yourself, it should be possible to get through both of them until May 14th... After all, I hope to reread some of these scriptures myself in Heaven if it is still necessary (Gods word is eternal, so there should be some copies to read in eternity also for me if I couldn't grasp it all now and here!) Much love, blessings to you and Thank You again for all the loving warning above! MARANATHA! :)
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DeleteI'd be careful with calling the Books of the Jubilees and of Enoch parts of the Word of God.
DeleteAmen, Nora! And Amen! Amen, brother! Amen, soster!
DeleteSorry, I meant Amen, sister!
DeleteThere has been a change in you Annabel since you have gotten the Cepher. You are it seems really pushing these ''other" books ...
The Paradox Brown video briefly mentioned Jubilees also - and it contradicts Scripture.
I suggest that it would be more beneficial for Fred to go to Paradoxbrown.com
LOL no problem Cathi! Amen brother, amen sister as Keaton would say! :--)
Delete@Cathi: yes maybe there's "a change in me by reading the CEPHER well there's always a change if someone is waking up to the truth. I just SMH how I do underline every second phrase in there getting dozens of literal (!) crosscheck quotations from bible OT and (!) NT and others state these books as 'heretic' or 'false doctrine' or at least 'non scriptural' I really wonder if we are talking about the same books here, how can anyone not just SEE the coherence?
DeleteAnd, Annabel - did you catch what Sheila included below at 1:02:
Delete"I miss all of those cool Biblical insights and cosmic catches God was always giving YOU to share with us."
Wow! You have a lot here Fred. As to Chuck Missler, I am not familiar with him and was unsure about him later when hearing of his involvement with Kim Clement tho I read different view points about this after Kim had died.
ReplyDeleteI never understood the sons of God going into daughters of men in Genesis 6:1-4 but didn't give this any thought. Then, I read Carl Gallups book "Gods & Thrones" which discussed these angels who took on bodily form. I was familiar with him from hearing him on the radio a couple of times. Tho, he talked about end times except for his discussion on this book mentioned above, he never talked about his belief on the mid-rapture or whatever it is he specifically believes. His book is Just to get this out there.
I just finished a video from Paradox Brown that Sheila had suggested earlier that talked about this briefly at the end of the video in that this video was about the book of Enoch which they now opposed. They have more detailed videos, documents to read, etc on angels and so on. They use the Bible in researching their results.
There are good sources that ''sons of God" or "gods" are referring to fallen angels.
I knew it had to mean something awful that God placed these angels in chains in the "abyss" because of what they had done. There were problems with these humans fathered by angels as they were giants. Paradox Brown mentioned they believe the 120 years in Genesis 6:1-4 references these "sons of god"!
As to gianticism they use the 'square-cube law' as to how tall a person could be and the tallest one could be is 13.5 feet or the bones break etc. (contradicting what the book of Enoch says).
An interesting point the Paradox Brown video made was that on the 150th day the rain stopped, at its highest peak, and God removed these fallen angels that day and a whirpool which is now with the fountains of the deep emptied ...the waters are now oceans and this whirlpool sucked then down into this area .... But God also chained them. So, the mass graveyard for mankind known as Sheol is near where the Abyss is and around it ... I would need to listen to this again to get it exactly right or hear more in-depth videos on this and/or similar videos they produced that discuss this further. Their point tho was tying in the 150 days to Revelation 9 and the 5th Trumpet - and the 5th trumpet lasts 150 days!
Also, in Revelation 9:1-3 and Revelation 9:11 there is the release of the angels. What they said was - these "sons of gods" angels are those released along with the King of Abaddon (a ruling angel) in Joel 2b-6. These are those who have wings with scorpion tails (Revelation 9:1-11).
So, Fred it might be beneficial to take a look at Paradox Brown and what they have to offer as to these "sons of God"
angels. The Lord Jesus himself for example appeared to Gideon as the ''angel of the Lord" in Judges 6:11.
Cathi I'm not sure why you want to dig into 'Paradox Brown' now instead of into Enoch because you would then instantly KNOW what it says and you would not have to GUESS from another video source... But that's up to you. Blessings though ;)
DeleteAnnabel ... What can I say? I recently listened to Paradox North and they use the Bible, the Holy Scriptures in reaching their results - as to what is said in Enoch among other subjects such as the fallen angels, demons.
DeleteIf I am guessing I would rather be guessing as to what scripture means and not finding truth in book of Enoch.
I am kind of concerned about this impetus to push the book of Enoch as other You Tubers have been doing.
As Paradox Brown said in their video maybe God allowed the finding of the Dead Sea Scrolls to cause us to dig in the Word. May I suggest you give a listen to what they have decided about the book of Enoch.
I guess Annabel, I would never consider finding truth in the book of Enoch is what I am trying to say above. I would question the validity of the book of Enoch. Paradox Brown talks about the Jude quote in the Bible on Enoch and their explanations for it - it is worth listening to. And, blessings to you!
DeleteFred, I get that you are of the “sons of Seth” camp and this is a difference of understanding that will likely only be settled in the Throne Room. However, I will point out that while the Scriptures do infer that angels in heaven neither marry nor are given in marriage, the fallen angels did leave that Estate. (Jude 6) If there is Scripture that states they cannot possibly intermingle with the daughters of men, thus spawning the giants of the OT, then perhaps you could provide that.
ReplyDeleteDan.2:43 seems to suggest such a thing is possible.
As to your railing accusations re Chuck Missler, I suppose that will be ironed out in the Throne Room as well.
And as to what God’s Heavenly Creation is entirely composed of (whether male or female in nature) again, I trust in Deut.29:29.
Maranatha!
Amen sister Sheila I totally agree with you and pray your in foid health and spirits ! Good yt video prophecy update John Haller link below
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TY, Jeramiah. I am feeling pretty descent lately. Finally got over all that flu and it’s ensuing ailments.
DeletePray you are feeling better and keeping with your diet. We need you and your encouraging voice.
Thanks for the Haller tip. I’ll catch it. Many Blessings:-)
Feeling “decent” lately. I hate when this dumb phone tries to decide what I want to say:-/
DeleteDear Sheila, you may quote Deut 29:29 well I trust in John 15:15 and 16:13 indeed. If you would peep into Enoch just once you would understand Jude 6-7 as well. The "Watchers" were meant to instruct men but some of them would disobey God and mingle with the human women. You could also grasp who built the great Giza pyramid, the Easter Island monoliths and so much more... Blessings though ;)
ReplyDeleteAnnabel, you can beat me over the head all you want to with this new surge of Enochian fever, but you are not the only person to ever read the book of Enoch. I’ve read it years ago and recently as well as most of the other Apochryphal books, but it just never became a be all end all thing for me as I found it’s accuracy to be questionable when compared with the Canon. To each his own, but I will not throw out my own discernment in pursuit of extra Biblical knowledge or “secrets”. I miss all of those cool Biblical insights and cosmic catches God was always giving YOU to share with us.
DeleteBlessings, Sister.
Mysteries to "science" and questions like these about e.g. this 1,200 ton Egypt Obelisk and the unknown technique of shaping it will suddenly get clear as day just like the answer to the question how tall Goliath or the Canaanites of the book of Joshua were (and why the grapes were so enormous because angels instructed men in special art of cultivating and breed) if you just read through Enoch ONCE in your lifetime...
DeleteAnnabel ... The Paradox Brown video discussed the height of man in Enoch as not possible. Their bones would break. The tallest a person could be is 13.5 ft.
Delete2 Tim 4:3 :
Delete"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears"
@Cathi: that's the reason exact why the Nephilim WEREN'T just 100% human but HYBRID angel-man beings. Or can you explain the above video link "science" riddle on the 1,200 ton obelisk in another way?
DeleteAnnabel, yes I see the Nephilim as angels who took human daughters of Adam as their wives and had children.
DeleteMy point was the book of Enoch contradicting what would be possible as to height - from, you guessed it "Paradoxbrown.com". This is a small bit copied - "The Bible records the tallest giant Rephaim, a human giant named Og, after the flood to have perhaps been 13.5 feet in height, based on the size of his bed." Deuteronomy 3:11
Also, "Another final problem with the book of the Watchers is that it says the nephilim were 3000 ells in height. This is about 4,500 feet in height. The tallest dinosaur, Sauroposeidon, of the brachiosaurus family, was only about 60 ft. tall. That would make the nephilim 75 times taller than the tallest dinosaur."
@Cathi I have found a rather interesting summary for you here which explains more to that: Genesis chapter 6 examined through Etiopian 1 Enoch chapter 7 and other texts and you see in my book of Enoch it is "only" 300 cubits but not 3,000 so it might well be we're talking about different texts then. Perhaps this also explains why I am finding so much scriptural parallels, logical complements and plausible coherence with the canonized bible and you're not?
DeleteBesides, did you never ever ask yourself about the global existence of giants, hybrid beings and 'super-heroes' and huge monsters and dragon beasts described in fairy-tales, myths and legends all over the world as well as megalithic structures, ancient technologies or archaeological findings nobody can explain until today? You see, I'm still open to find logical explanation in what God explained to Enoch even before the flood came. I don't think of living in very "evolved" times regarding knowledge of mankind - rather at the end of decline in everything! Thus, I can very well imagine what the antideluvian world was like when reading through Enoch and Jubilees as it does not at all contradict scripture but very much complements and explains it in a very compelling way like the author of the above article also frankly admits. The phrase "AS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH" gets another (deeper) level of understanding to me then and I begin to grasp what the 2Thess2-deception during the great tribulation might be like.
Just another note: I do NOT believe in physical 'alien abductions' but rather in spiritual haunting and terror reported (like during hypnosis). The modern Nephilim can make most easy use of institutions like "planned parenthood" or use their global pedovore networks to process their evil DNA altering agenda today.
DeleteHoney, better step into the Play Room and settle 'em down, 'sounds like they're liable to break somethin' soon. LOL Quite the Ruckus in here, I'm luvinit. As much as I resonated with Missler's insights there has always been a check in my spirit, felt most when watching him speak, that there is more here than meets the eye. Not to disparage the memory of the man, and it seems consistent that, just as Graham before him, blind spots and mis-steps remind us of the humanity of these giants. Nonetheless, one cannot live in the circles in which he operated, in the secular world, without daily rubbing shoulders with Powers and Principalities, so one wonders, I just never went on a wholistic expedition. Maranatha!
ReplyDeleteYou're right, Jimboni but we are at least supposed to share and communicate what we found out (Hebrews 13:16)...
DeleteSo back to "normal", huh??! Now this is HUUUUGE did you catch that news today yet??! SAUDI ARABIA WILL BUILD CHRISTIAN CHURCHES AFTER STRIKING DEAL WITH VATICAN guess how "Christian" these churches might be if the Vatican is behind ROTFL!! {thumbs up!}
I guess that might explain MSB’s hugely expensive purchase of that Christ painting last year. I was wondering where he was planning on hanging such a painting in Saudi Arabia. Now it makes a lot more sense.
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DeletePS: here's another reasoning about Genesis chapter 3 and the speaking serpent explained through book of Enoch now think of the donkey suddenly talking with mens voice to the false prophet Balaam (Numeri 22:28-30), do you think this was sth out of thin air God newly invented and caused the donkey to do or was it just a former (ceased) ability He just revived at that point? Btw when reading this again: why in the world wasn't Balaam astonished at all to hear a donkey speak? If your dog, cat or canary would suddenly reason with you like that, wouldn't you be just terrified or at least think of hallucinating after smoking too much weed?
ReplyDelete@CATHI this was meant to fit as an answer into the upper thread but my phone turned it into a new comment. I hope you find this here. Sorry for the inconvenience and the deleted ones.
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ReplyDeleteHi all, there're updates today: Amir – Middle East Current Events Update, May 7, 2018.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lOXeQ1S8cU
J.D. Farag yesterday – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDEfKMDzVJM&t=94s
Times of Israel – Missile warnings: 8 things to know for May 7
https://www.timesofisrael.com/missile-warnings-8-things-to-know-for-may-7/
Liberman says law letting PM declare war is needed to hit enemies quickly
INN – Liberman: No place for hysteria and panic
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/245552
Very much blessings to all! Maranatha!
Events seem to speed up now: Donald Trump tweeted he would take a decision on the IRAN NUCLEAR DEAL until TUESDAY tomorrow 5/8 at 2 p.m. (!!) read more on zerohedge (click!) Oh wow... Revelation 10:6 "there will be time no longer"!! MARANATHA
ReplyDeleteIt makes sense to disentangle that announcement from the Embassy relocation which this will do, allowing THIS reaction/response to be separate. I imagine this is to benefit Israel and would seem a likely request by them was made for just this reason, if it were possible. After all, what will change n the next few days to change POTUS' mind anyways? Feeling myself, once again, tightening my seatbelt and wondering how many more times I'll be going through THIS routine, "oh bother." Well, Eeyor was a bit encouraged to see this being apparently accelerated, a bit, but optimism is not his strong suit, so he remains 'cautiously watchful, or so he says, Maranatha!
DeleteI see it like that also Jimboni. I have just read several headlines on dire consequences if he signs off the Iran deal. Do you see this as necessary (Trump signing off of the Iran deal) to keep in step with Bible prophecy at this point in time?
DeleteCathi G., wow, good question. I am guessing that some others will have a Spirit-led inkling on that one. Personally, especially in light of the recent bickering over fine details, I think that as we get ever closer to deeply key moments, it becomes likewise equally more difficult to parse the details ahead. Looking at some suggested scenarios covering the next 10 days, it is all so rapid fire how could one know which card goes in which order in the deck, other than Abba, Himself? Apologies for taking the weasel 'out' card on this one but gonna have to pass on that call, Maranatha!
DeleteThank you, Jimboni for responding. I guess now we won't have to wait as long to learn his decision on the Iran deal. And, any repercussions if he nixes it.
DeleteI found now a very interesting article in INN – Analysis: Out-of-the-box peace proposals:
ReplyDeleteA possibly realistic approach to the conflict between Arabs and Jews from Bar Ilan University scholar Mordechai Kedar.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/245576
And in twitter interesting today – Intel Doge: #BREAKING: Benjamin Netanyahu is to return DIRECTLY TO ISRAEL FROM CYPRUS tomorrow INSTEAD OF VISITING MOSCOW (Wednesday meeting with Putin has been cancelled). I couldn't read it all, because I'm not registered in twitter. We are really going home very quickly! When the news are most prophetic now, then He acts now Himself, and will take us away and return to deal with Israel! Maranatha!
Alla D, love your updates! Thank you, so. You've been in my pleadings before the Throne of Grace, MSIC, amen. BTW, we approach the 200 post threshold (OH MY! LIONS AND TIGERS AND BEARS!) so hope for a new thread soon :) yay! On the other hand, popcorn seems likely to hit critical soon, Maranatha!
DeleteAlla, TY again for these important updates. You are so good to stay on top of the current events. Be well, Sister, and praying for your strength everyday:-)
DeleteFamily, I just watched BPEarthwatch latest YTC video re the volcanoes in HI and would encourage you to do likewise. The lava flows were made to stand out to me and remind me of various testimonies of those taken to Hell as a witness. Quite simply, this is reality which 'secular' world says is madness. Lucifer's greatest lie is that he doesn't exist. How tame and calmly epic are the flows from the helicopter in the video. Our sovereign Lord is visiting a Witness upon the earth for all. BP talks about NWO & CERN working to pierce the veil in correlation to what's in HI atm. Some good Annabel stuff but hang in there, its good and short and then the videos. Remind you of any other veils shred open? In His Grace He Says, LOOK, Soon you will not observe from afar! Soon and VERY SOON, Maranatha!
ReplyDeleteDear brother, TY for the Hawaii update which made me instantly prompt an internet research on the very sinister and demonic heritage of this region. I'm not done with it yet but find it not too coincidential how certain "hell-holes" are popping up especially in these spots on earth. It makes me wonder how God still withholds major earthquakes in the Israel region whereas we know that there are three continental plates rubbing each other, Mount Hermon is the "pit" of fallen angels and the "great" earthquake is still future (Revelation 6:12 / 8:5 / 11:13+19 / 16:18) as I think these chapters describe all the SAME earthquake that divides the city of Jerusalem (Sodom and Egypt) into 3 parts (probably along the continental fault), the 10th part falls and 7,000 are killed... but I digress.
DeleteAnyway, I found this during my research on Hawaii, a little nugget for you to chew on (I know you like that LOL!): Hawaiian Airlines presents Maui the Trickster (2016) these "myths and legends" are all the same worldwide somehow - I just told my husband how much it helped me to read through the book of Enoch now as it tells the whole (and correct!) story behind all this. When the (fallen) Watchers of old being closed up since the flood are being released you can hardly imagine what will happen shortly (Revelation 9) but with background information from Enoch you can. Well, you REALLY don't wanna be here then... That's btw the "days of Noah"-term the LORD Jesus refers to at His SECOND coming in Matthew 24:37 when these Watchers are out of the pit - we are currently just living in the Enoch/Metushelah age (to stay within this picture) of the 10th part of "Nephilim" left over after the flood and their evil spirits increasing among mankind. MARANATHA, stay safe and have a great day in the LORD Jesus Christ!
I value your opinion; what are your thoughts on these verses? 2 Timothy 4:3-4 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
DeleteDear Fred, this is the description of people who esteem some "Hopi prophecies" or Hawaiian myths etc (and the satanic belief systems behind) like the above HIGHER than where these myths came from i.e. where the common source for men is, namely the writings of ancient antideluvian prophets of God like Enoch, Methushelah, Noah, Jasher and many others. You ought to discern original from God and copy of Satan. That's all. Blessings to you! :)
DeleteTrumps announcment today on the iran deal is 153 days from Trumps announcment on dec 6th recognizing Jerusalem as Israels capital ! Maranatha !!!
ReplyDeleteTY Jeramiah. These day counts between such important prophetic events entailing such important numbers have to be continual Heads Up! admonitions:-)
DeleteBlessings, Brother!
Remember his assurance to me Jeramiah! All things must happen in the "Spirit of 153" Waiting and watching and praying! Blessings - Sherry
DeleteBTW: Dan Matson had another point in our Derby Day calculations - From May 5th at the running the Derby to May 10th (Ascension Day) is 144 Hours.
Yesterday my nephew's second son was born. Today he died. They named him Enoch.
ReplyDeleteSo very sorry Cy and Cry. Praying for your family to receive comfort and strength in Christ.
DeleteThank you Sheila. I thought the name choice spoke volumes of their hope and faith.
DeleteHeartfelt prayers for comfort to you and your family Cy and Cry - Clearly, they know their hope is in Christ based on their naming of that sweet baby. He awaits us all there.
DeleteBlessings - Sherry
I'm also very deep sorry, CY and Cry, with my whole heart! Praying for you and your nephew, and all your family! The Lord is very near! 2cor 1:3-4 KJV
DeleteYes it does, Cy, which is the only thing I know of that can ease the parting sorrow of handing the care of our babes into the care of our Lord. For yet a little time and that same hope and faith in Jesus will reunite us. There’s a pair of grand-twins up there I’ve never met but I know I soon will.
DeleteMany Blessings to you and yours as we earnestly watch for that Great Day.
Thank you all. They say the lines in our face tell our life story, but I'm finding that the lines in our from-the-heart writing tell our story even better.
DeleteBrothers and Sisters, I have a question. For those of you who see the seven seals as happening after the rapture, what is the sixth seal?
ReplyDeleteDear brother, you mean Revelation 6:12-14 don't you? Well, earthquake, eclipse, meteor / asteroid shower and pole / crustal shift. What is your question?
DeleteOk. More precisely, in verse 14, the sky rolls back like a scroll....that's sounds like the rapture. What else would you see it as?
DeleteThis is the description of how it looks like (from earth perspective) when a pole shift or magnetic reversal of the earth happens. It is not the rapture described, we're way back out here when that happens. The best description I could find quickly online is behind this link (click!) but you may do your own research on pole / crustal shift (remember the movie "2012"? One of my favourites... LOL) and how it relates to the 'red dragon system' coming near. Check out #Real Planet X Nibiru # YT channel from 5. 8. 18 video to get an imagination of HOW close this dragon is... (Probably Mexico hasn't got so much money for the chemtrailing that's why they cannot hide it so perfectly?) These celestial bodies have dramatic impact on earth both in plasma / radiation and electromagnetic impact and will cause all the havoc next 7 years, we are just experiencing the beginning of that now. Blessings to you, have an awesome day in the LORD Jesus! :)
ReplyDelete@Miguel P again this was either my phone or this kind of blog software switching... Sorry! ;)
ReplyDeleteNo problem Annabel. I will answer over at unsealed, since that is where most of this conversation is.
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