More Info on the Sign in Virgo...
God Bless you all for reading this today. I am very excited about what is happening in the heavens and in the prophetic community as more and more people are catching on to this awesome sign with Venus and Virgo. If you haven't been following this info, please check out the previous couple posts on this blog by clicking here. Below are 2 videos and a post about the amazingVenus/Virgo sign you need to check out! Abba Up!
Morning Star: A Sign of Jesus’ Soon Coming?
T. W. Tramm – (10/21/26)
LOOK UP!
On October 24, Venus will pass between Earth and the Sun, marking its transition from an evening star
to a morning star.
After being lost several days in the Sun’s glare, the dazzling planet will emerge as early as October 28,
making its heliacal rising in the eastern pre-dawn sky.
Though the morning star’s appearance every 19 months is considered an important astronomical
milestone, here are some reasons this year’s occurrence could be a prophetic milestone:
THE COMING BRIDEGROOM
In Revelation 22, the “Morning Star” symbolizes Jesus as the coming Bridegroom:
“Look, I am coming soon! ….’I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am
the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star’” (Rev. 22:12, 16).
A striking parallel is that the earliest likely appearance of the morning star (October 28) marks day 222 of
the biblical year.
FIVE “VIRGINS”
The morning star in 2026 makes its heliacal rise in the constellation Virgo, the Virgin—an alignment that
has occurred only four times since the “fig tree” generation began circa 1948:
November 5, 1994
October 31, 2002
October 29, 2010
October 26, 2018
That the morning star is set to rise for the fifth time in Virgo is striking because in the Parable of the
Virgins, only five were ready to meet the bridegroom:
“At midnight there was a cry, ‘Here is the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!’ Then all those virgins
rose and trimmed their lamps. And the foolish said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil, for our lamps
are going out.’ But the wise answered, saying, ‘Since there will not be enough for us and for you, go
rather to the dealers and buy for yourselves.’ And while they were going to buy, the bridegroom came,
and the [five] who were ready went in with him to the marriage feast, and the door was shut” (Matt.
25:6–10).
Additionally, this year’s morning star marks the 50th total heliacal rise since 1948, evoking the Jubilee
and the dawn of the Church Age at Pentecost (Lev. 25:10; Acts 2).
DAYS OF NOAH
The earliest heliacal rising of the morning star on October 28 corresponds to Cheshvan 17, the
anniversary of Noah’s Flood, evoking Jesus’ comparison of His return to the “days of Noah” (Matt.
24:37).
Amplifying this connection, the Flood is intrinsically linked to the number eight (1 Peter 3:20)—resonant
with the fact that the English gematria value of “Morning Star” and the Greek gematria value of “Jesus”
are both 888.
UN–FLOOD MILESTONE
The morning star’s earliest heliacal rising on October 28 (Cheshvan 17) marks 81 years since the UN was
founded on the anniversary of Noah’s Flood. This is significant because 80 years denote a generation (Ps.
90:10), and speaking of the final generation, Jesus says to consider not only the age of the fig tree but
also “all” the trees, meaning all the nations (Luke 21:29–32).
END OF “SUMMERTIME”
Virgo’s astronomical transition to a morning star on October 24 occurs on the final full day of Israel's
“summer time” (IDT, UTC+3), which officially ends on Sunday, October 25.
The end of summer is typologically a time of judgment for Israel:
“The harvest is past, the summer has ended, and we are not saved” (Jer. 8:20).
“’What do you see, Amos?’ [the Lord] asked. ‘A basket of summer fruit,’ I answered. Then the Lord said
to me, ‘The time is ripe for my people Israel; I will spare them no longer’” (Amos 8:2).
“What misery is mine! I feel like the fruit picker after the harvest who can find nothing to eat … The
godly people have all disappeared; not one honest person is left on the earth …. The day announced by
your watchmen has come, the day of your visitation” (Mic. 7:1, 2, 4).
CONCLUSION
In view of the Morning Star’s association with the coming Bridegroom, it is significant that the heliacal
rising in 2026:
• begins on day 222 of the biblical year;
• marks the fifth occurrence in Virgo since 1948;
• marks the 50th total occurrence since 1948;
• coincides with the Flood date, the UN’s 81st anniversary, and the end of Israel’s “summertime.”
Referring to the glorious, luminous return of Jesus Christ at the end of the age, Peter encouraged
believers to heed the prophetic scriptures as a light shining in a dark place, “until the day dawns and the
morning star rises in your hearts” (2 Pet. 1:19).
The rising of this year’s morning star gives hope that “the day” is near.
. . .
NOTES:
1. Under ideal clear-sky conditions and utilizing binoculars or a telescope, experienced observers can spot the ultrathin crescent of Venus just a day or two after it passes between the Earth and the Sun. For unaided naked-eye
visibility, it generally takes about three to seven days for Venus to widen its angular separation from the glare of the
Sun enough to be clearly distinguished against the morning twilight.
2. Venus's complete synodic cycle takes 584 days (19 months) to complete. During this period, the planet spends
263 days visible as a morning star, disappears briefly, and then spends another 263 days visible as an evening star
before resetting its cycle with its next heliacal rise.
3. Following 2026, the next heliacal rise of the morning star occurs in June 2028. The next heliacal rise in Virgo, the
Virgin, occurs in October 2034.
4. The number 22 signifies finality or completion in Scripture:
• The last book of the Bible, Revelation, contains 22 chapters.
• The Hebrew alphabet is comprised of 22 letters. The 22nd letter, Tav, is the “mark of completion.”
• The equinox on September 22 marks the astronomical end of summer.
• As Jesus finished His mission on the cross, He quoted Psalm 22: “My God, my God, why have you forsaken
me?”
• The Rapture marking the end of the Church Age involves two groups of two (22): “In that night there will
be two men in one bed: the one will be taken and the other will be left. Two women will be grinding
together: the one will be taken and the other left” (Luke 17:34).
5. The Gregorian date of the UN’s founding is October 24, corresponding to the astronomical transition of Venus to
the morning star in 2026. The biblical anniversary of the founding, Cheshvan 17 (October 28), corresponds to the
earliest heliacal rising.
Brad...thank you for starting a new thread after only 37 posts on the previous one. I feel your urgency and the nearness of the hour. I just finished watching Tyler's video and it's so encouraging. He compares what's happening with Venus in retrograde to the Parable of the 10 Virgins. If I heard him correctly he compares Venus in Virgo with the 10th Virgin since the appearance of the Rev12 Sign in 2017 (i.e, 1 Virgin for every year). This implies we're getting very close and the Rapture could occur this month or hopefully by the end of this year. Perhaps a very subtle clue is that from 10/14/26 (3rd Anniversary of the "Wedding Ring" Eclipse in Virgo) to 10/24/26 (when Venus transitions from an Evening Star to the Bright + Morning Star) = 10 days or the 10th Virgin! Now the only question that remains is what "Glorious Day" will the Bridegroom come for His Bride? Figure that one out and you get awarded 10 gold crowns!
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Brad, thank you for gathering all this. I checked T.W. Tramm's numbers with my own planetary software, and they hold:
ReplyDelete- Venus passes between us and the Sun on October 24 and comes clear of the glare around October 28-29.
- This morning rising in Virgo is the fifth since 1948: 1994, 2002, 2010, 2018 and now. Before 1994 the same autumn rising came up in Libra; the eight-year pattern slowly slides back through the stars.
- It is indeed the 50th morning rising since May 1948.
- October 28 is Cheshvan 17 on the rabbinic calendar, and October 24, 1945, the day the UN was founded, was Cheshvan 17 as well.
His third note caught my eye: the next rising in Virgo comes in October 2034. In my reading that is exactly where Daniel's last week closes. The 1,335 days from Purim 2031 end on November 3, 2034, Hoshana Rabba on God's calendar of new moon and barley. Venus passes between Earth and Sun on October 21, 2034, again in Virgo, and by November 3 she stands as a bright morning star, 19 degrees from the Sun. So the morning star that rises in Virgo this fall rises there again, eight years later, at the close of the week. And the very next morning star after this one comes in June 2028: Venus passes between Earth and Sun on June 1, the day after Shavuot (Sivan 6 falls on May 31 that year), in the year I see as the most logical one for the gathering of the Bride. I attach no meaning to any of this; I write it down. 'Until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts' (2 Pet 1:19).
Bob, one friendly note on the EarthSky video. 2004 and 2012 were transits: Venus crossed the face of the Sun, and that happens next in 2117 and 2125. This October 24 Venus passes 6.5 degrees south of the Sun, so there is no transit this time, and nothing to see; she is simply lost in the glare for a few days. And at this meeting Venus and the Sun are not opposite each other but in the same direction: Venus stands between us and the Sun. Stan is right that it happens every 584 days. What makes this one special is where it happens: in Virgo, followed by the loop around Spica.
With love, in Him who IS coming,
Henk
Henk...thank you for pointing out that Venus will not directly line up or transit with the Sun on 10/24 since it passes 6.5 degrees south of the Sun. Perhaps the phrase..."Close, but no Cigar" would be appropriate here! Lol! So it looks like the "scene" I envisioned after watching the EarthSky video where the inhabitants of Earth could see with a special telescope Venus passing directly in front of the Sun is not going to happen. Bummer!!! It would have been such a beautiful sight to behold. But as you point out, Venus (Jesus) will still stand between us (the Bride) and the Sun (our Almighty Father) in Virgo. Hallelujah!!!
DeleteYou are such a skilled Astronomer + Watchman! May God continue to Bless you, Brother.
Bob, thank you, brother! I am watching and the software does the counting; I check it:)
DeleteAnd the picture you drew has a verse behind it: 'there is one God, and one Mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus' (1 Tim 2:5). Close, but no cigar for the transit. Right on target for our Mediator;)
With love,
Henk
Henk...thank you for sharing that Bible verse (1 Tim 2:5). It says it all and fits perfectly with what we may have just witnessed! Assuming Venus has already transitioned from an Evening Star to a Morning Star! Perhaps you can confirm the time it happened or when it will happen on 10/24 since I do not have such astronomical skills.
DeleteBob, it has already happened. Venus passed between Earth and the Sun at about 03:44 UT on October 24: 6:44 in the morning in Jerusalem, and in America still on Friday evening, October 23 (11:44 PM Eastern, 8:44 PM Pacific). Almanacs may differ by a few minutes.
DeleteFrom that moment on she is the morning star. You will not see her yet: she stays in the Sun's glare for a few more days, and around October 28-29 she climbs out of it, low in the east just before sunrise. Then she keeps rising higher each morning, until she is at her brightest around Thanksgiving.
Henk...thank you for the confirmation. We're all set to go now!!! At least that's our hope. Btw, you're one heck (or should I say Henk!) of a servant!
DeleteRE: October 24, Venus – Start of the 7-Day Sukkot Noah Countdown?
ReplyDeleteWhat I find rather interesting is how based on the re-calibrated New Moon, October11, 2026 Jewish Civil New Year, Venus will be the Bright and Morning Star on the eve of when Sukkot starts for 7 days. And what all the typologies it carries and infer has in light of the Rapture’s possible timing. The video I did attempts to capture that, as best as one can. The link will be below.
Yes, we are going to be entering, I think, the highest Rapture watch zone for the year and perhaps up to this point in time, of the entire Church Age. And that is not a bombastic claim to make. As for Cheshvan 17? The Rabbinical Calendar is counting 17 days after the New Moon of October 11, 2026, which is precisely October 28. But as I and other Brethren have re-calibrated October 11, 2026, from the Fall Equinox to be the Civil New Year, Cheshvan 17 would land on November 25, the U.S. Thanksgiving day.
What this re-calibrated month suggests is that the Feast of Sukkot could be then as that 7-day countdown of Noah, leading to the Flood on the 8th Day. That is the model and timeline presented, although I start my day-count from the sunset the day prior in Jerusalem. As noted in the video depicting all this, October 25 would be the eve of the start of the 7-days of Sukkot. And then October 31, on Halloween would be the 7th Day, called Hoshana Rabba, the ‘Las and Great Day’.
It would make November 1, the Day of the Dead, the start of the Noah Flood judgment, based on 7-day Sukkot typology. Obviously, it is only a suggested timeline. But as the video also touches upon, one finds it very interesting now on November 2, 2026, the Noahide Congress meets to establish basically the foundation of what will be implemented worldwide after the Rapture. We are witnessing End Times Prophecy unfold in our very lifetime.
Lastly, thanks to a Canadian Brother who wishes to remain anonymous, I formulated ‘Get better and well wishes’ for Dr. Barry Awe. The link will be below as well. So, we shall see about this coming Rapture high-watch time. It sure looks plausible, but we have been here before.
So, we Keep the Watch,
Lu Vega
Get Well Card Graphic
Dr. Awe Dedication Graphic Screenshot shared from a Canadian Brother
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tNM0QUrA7YOMKiGj--G_gz8lzUxyLwka/view?usp=drive_link
YouTube video
DeleteTHE RAPTURE ON THE GREAT DAY
TRANSFIGURATIONS AND NOAH’S FLOOD
An October 31-November 1 High-Watch 7-Day Countdown?
by Luis B. Vega
https://youtu.be/cS4SSBU6srE
Article
DeleteTHE RAPTURE ON THE GREAT DAY
TRANSFIGURATIONS AND NOAH’S FLOOD
An October 31-November 1 High-Watch 7-Day Countdown?
by Luis B. Vega
https://postscripts.org/articles/f/a264-is-the-rapture-on-the-great-day
Lu...excellent article and video. You make many compelling points why the Rapture may happen on 10/31 or 11/1. You also emphatically state..."we are entering the highest Rapture watch zone for the year and perhaps up to this point in time, of the entire Church Age." In addition you state..."We are witnessing End Times Prophecy unfold in our very lifetime." For all of the above, I totally agree with you and concur that we are fortunate to be alive rght now and be a witness to all these things. It's such a Blessing!
DeleteSince this is the most 'EXCITED' I've seen you in a very long time, perhaps you need to call your mama on your 'FLIP PHONE' and share the 'GOOD NEWS'! Lol! I'm sure that will make her very happy! But please don't wait until the 'Day of the Dead'!!!
Btw, I liked your graphic showing "The Satanic Origins of Halloween". My daughter and family will be having an early Halloween Party tonight so the kiddos can go Trick or Treating next Saturday. I'll be dressed up as a 'Scare Crow' but not to scare the birds away from my garden, but rather to scare away all those creepy figures shown on your graphic! Lol!
'Farmer Bob'
Lu, thank you for the card for Dr. Awe, and I am glad to hear he is recovering. I join you in praying for him and for Danielle: 'nothing is too hard for the Lord' (Jer 32:17).
DeleteI went through your video. On my calendar of new moon and barley the feast falls the same way this year: Sukkot from sunset October 25, Hoshana Rabba from sunset October 31. And your Great Day caught my eye. On my count Daniel's 1,335 days end on that same day of the feast, Hoshana Rabba, in 2034 (November 3). It is the day John describes: 'On the last day, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out: If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink' (John 7:37).
Two details from the text, as a brother. Noah's seven days came in the second month, not the seventh: 'after the seven days the waters of the flood were on the earth [...] in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month' (Gen 7:10-11). On God's calendar this year that is around November 20 and 27; in my model I watch those two days in 2028.
And on 2 Thessalonians 2:3 we differ. In the Greek Old Testament apostasia stands for rebellion against the LORD (Josh 22:22), in the very chapter that recalls how 'Achan, the son of Zerah, committed a trespass in the devoted thing' at Jericho (22:20). So I read it as the great falling away, and I find our departure in 'our gathering together to Him' (2 Thess 2:1).
And one question, brother, with no pressure at all. In your timeline Nisan 14, AD 32 is again a Wednesday, April 14. Did you have a chance to check that date in the Julian calendar, the calendar of that day? I keep coming out on a Monday. If you find a Wednesday there, I would love to see how you count it.
Whatever year the gathering comes, that cry of the Great Day still stands open today. Keep the watch, brother.
With love, in Him who is coming,
Henk
There is a YouTube channel “Messiah 2030” that has a 3 part video series that does a very good job of mapping out the scriptural Messianic prophecies, with early church history and secular accounts as well. It is about 6 hours total. They say part 4 is in production. Their theology on the length of “the time of Jacob’s trouble” is different from the commonly held belief expressed by the majority of the folks who comment here. If you are devoted to the idea of the commonly stated “7 year tribulation”, I urge you to put that aside and listen to what they have to present.
ReplyDeleteThere is another YouTube channel, “Watchman for that Great Day”, that is discussing the ideas presented in the Messiah 2030 series. I have believed for several years that there are only 3 and 1/2 years left in the 70th week of Daniel. Once I saw it, I couldn’t unsee it. I could be wrong, but if not, I have at least pointed you in that direction. What you do with it is up to you. At any rate, I think the run down of Messianic prophecies is worth the listen.
Kathy, thank you for pointing us to Messiah 2030. I have studied their work extensively, and I share your appreciation. Their run-down of the Messianic prophecies is careful, and they take the early church and the secular sources seriously. We also share a frame: 'After two days He will revive us; on the third day He will raise us up' (Hos 6:2), with a day as a thousand years (Ps 90:4; 2 Pet 3:8). They count 2,000 years from a cross in AD 30 to 2030; I count from AD 31 to 2031. So we are watching nearly the same years.
DeleteOn the great distress I am closer to you than you might expect. In Jesus' words the great tribulation begins when the abomination stands in the holy place (Matt 24:15, 21), and Daniel and John measure what follows: 1,260 days, 42 months, a time, times and half a time (Dan 7:25; 12:7; Rev 11:2-3; 12:6, 14; 13:5). I read that half as the time of Jacob's trouble (Jer 30:7). I do not call the whole week 'the tribulation' either.
Where I part ways is the first half of the week. I went through their reading line by line, and I wanted to see whether it holds. But Daniel 9 gives it no room. These are the things in the text that hold me.
1. The cross comes after the count. Gabriel counts seven and 62 weeks 'until Messiah the Prince' (Dan 9:25). From the decree of Artaxerxes (Ezra 7), counted from the autumn of 457 BC, that brings us to AD 27, the baptism, when 'God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit' (Acts 10:38). Then: 'And after the 62 weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself' (Dan 9:26). The Hebrew is וְאַחֲרֵי (ve'acharei), 'and after'. One verse later, for what happens in the middle of the week, Gabriel uses another word: וַחֲצִי הַשָּׁבוּעַ (vachatsi hashavua), 'and in the half of the week' (9:27). The angel had the words for 'the middle', and he did not use them for the cross.
2. Verse 26 sets the fall of Jerusalem after the cross as well, without a week number: 'the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary'. That happened in AD 70, 39 years after the cross. Everyone needs a gap here, Messiah 2030 included; their two halves lie about 2,000 years apart. The question is only where Gabriel puts the gap. He puts it after the 69 weeks, and then speaks of 'one week' (שָׁבוּעַ אֶחָד, shavua echad) as a unit: one covenant, one middle, two halves.
3. The covenant is 'for one week'. 'And he shall make strong a covenant with the many for one week' (9:27). The nearest 'he' is the prince who is to come, whose people destroy the city. The Messiah is 'cut off', יִכָּרֵת (yikaret), from karat, the verb for cutting a covenant (9:26). The prince only 'makes strong': וְהִגְבִּיר (higbir), 'to make strong, to make prevail'. In this form the verb occurs only once more in the Hebrew Bible: 'With our tongue we will prevail' (Ps 12:4), spoken by flattering lips. I understand why many hear Isaiah 53 in 'the many' (Isa 53:11-12; Matt 26:28). I think that is the point. The counterfeit borrows the language of the true. The covenant in Jesus' blood does not run for seven years. It is 'the everlasting covenant' (Heb 13:20; Jer 32:40), and He never breaks it in the middle.
4. The stopping of the offering belongs with the abomination. 'In the middle of the week he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering, and on the wing of abominations comes one who makes desolate' (Dan 9:27). Daniel 12:11 counts both from one moment: 'from the time that the daily is taken away and the abomination that makes desolate is set up, 1,290 days'. Whoever places the end of the offering at the cross must pull the two apart by 2,000 years, while Daniel counts them from one day. And at the cross the offerings did not stop. Peter and John went up to the temple 'at the hour of prayer, the ninth hour' (Acts 3:1), the hour of the evening offering, and years later Paul went in until 'the offering should be made' (Acts 21:26). The cross made those offerings unnecessary (Heb 10:18). It did not make them cease.
Delete5. Jesus placed the middle of the week ahead of Himself. A few days before the cross He said on the Mount of Olives: 'When you see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place' (Matt 24:15). After that distress come the signs in the heavens and His coming (Matt 24:29-30). The middle of Daniel's week cannot lie both at the cross and still ahead of Him on the Mount of Olives.
So I read Daniel 9:26-27 as two princes over against each other. The Anointed One is cut off, but not for Himself; His ministry of three and a half years, from the baptism in AD 27 to the cross at Passover AD 31, mirrors a half-week, and the cross closes it. The prince who is to come makes a covenant strong for one week and breaks it in the middle. His week is still ahead. I worked this out in Three Days and Three Nights: the 70 weeks, and the framework of the week in Revelation Unsealed: the seals are opened.
The 2,000 years then fall into place: 27 becomes 2027, 31 becomes 2031, 34 becomes 2034 (The Mystery of the Two Days: the Hosea bridge on three nails). The week opens with that covenant on 1 Tishri, October 2, 2027. The abomination comes at Purim 2031 and the middle at Passover 2031, and the 1,335 days end on Hoshana Rabba, November 3, 2034 (The Pre-Abomination Model: the two midpoint anchors). In a way I share your three and a half years: once the 2,000 years since the cross are full, three and a half years remain on my count as well. The difference is the first half. Daniel shows it to me ahead of us, not behind us.
And that half is not empty. In it the Lamb opens the seals (Rev 6), the Lamb who was slain (Rev 5:6), and John received them as 'what must take place after this' (Rev 4:1), some 60 years after the cross. That is interpretation, and I hold it as such. I could be wrong in the details, as you say of yourself. If I am, Daniel 9 still stands, and the King still comes.
You wrote that once you saw it, you could not unsee it. I know that from the other side. Once I saw that small word 'after' in Daniel 9:26, I could not unsee it either. Let us keep listening to the text together; it will outlast both our models.
With love, in Him who is coming,
Henk
The intense love that God bears for humanity—evidenced by the gift of His Son—could, in reality, mean that the period of tribulation lasts only three and a half years, rather than seven. Given everything that is written, I find it difficult to imagine that human beings could survive, for seven full years, all that is destined to occur during this intense ordeal. Yet, the Lord remains in control; therefore, it is entirely possible. Furthermore, the verses in chapter 9 of the Book of Daniel concern Jesus, as well as our sworn enemy—who is also the enemy of Israel. The hypothesis of a three-and-a-half-year duration, rather than seven, is consistent. I am prepared to revise my position if this proves to be accurate—much as was the case regarding the teaching on "new wine," an insight shared quite recently by our brother Lu. We must pray and ask the Lord to reveal the truth to us on this matter. Knowledge is increasing in these end times, and our understanding is evolving. This is merely my personal opinion.
DeleteKathy...I have to concur with you on the tribulation being 3.5 years instead of 7. Once I saw the evidence, I simply can not unsee it....
DeleteHenk, thank you so much for responding. I don't agree with Messiah 2030 on all of their points either. One thing that I do know, none of us have the entire saga 100% correct in our understanding of it. I believe it is imperative for each of us to be willing to change our mind when the scriptures prove us wrong.
DeleteAs to your point #1, I have to agree with Messiah 2030 that Jesus was baptized and anointed in 26 AD. My math skills are lacking, but seems to me that 26 + 457 = 483. I'm aware that the Hebrew year changes in the fall. It all depends what date Jesus was baptized and what date in 457 BC that things got rolling with the people who were going to Jerusalem to work on the decree. Maybe the dates are recorded somewhere that leads you to place it at 27 AD? Anyway, Messiah 2030 covers most of your points in part 3.
As far as the wording of Daniel 9:26 , if Daniel's 70th week starts the day after the 69th week ends, then the crucifixion is after the count. Messiah 2030 does a much better job of explaining how all of this works. I agree with their breakdown of it.
As far as Gabriel's choice of words goes, it doesn't seem to me that it is imperative for him to use the same word in both verses. He may have been vague on purpose. Daniel, and the people who lived at any time other than the time we live in, were not supposed to figure it out.
It seems to me that a lot of your other points of difference hinge on who "He" is in Daniel 9:27 and who the "prince that shall come" in Daniel 9:26 is. I have to agree with Messiah 2030 on their interpretation of that question in part 3 of their series.
I can see how people have different views on how all of this works out. Three years ago, I would have agreed with everything that you are saying. The one point that the Messiah 2030 part 3 discusses that I think is impossible to argue with is their discussion of Ezekiel Chapter 4.
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Stan at "The 11:11 Sign" youtube channel has a new video out that deals with some of this. His older videos explain his views on the seals being open, the rider on the white horse in Revelation 6:2 being the church, and the abomination of desolation being at or just before 70 AD. Stan has a lot of very good points. I just don't want to be watching for the wrong events to happen in the very near future.
My purpose in posting about Messiah 2030 YTC is to maybe get people to be open to different ideas and interpretations. Everyone that comments here knows how easy it is to be wrong. We've all been there enough times. Keeps us humble.
DeleteI will be going through your 5 points and checking them out thoroughly. I hope you won't mind if I have questions for you in the next few days, as time permits.
Carole and Stan, thank you for your comments as well. I don't feel quite so alone now...
Blessings, all.
Kathy, thank you for your kind answer, and of course you may ask me anything in the coming days. I agree with you: none of us has the whole picture, and the Scriptures have the last word, over my model too.
DeleteOn AD 26 or 27, the sum hides a small trap. There is no year zero; 1 BC is followed directly by AD 1. So 483 years from 457 BC do not bring you to AD 26 but to AD 27: from the autumn of 457 BC to the autumn of AD 27. Whoever arrives at AD 26 usually starts half a year earlier, in the spring of 458 BC, when Ezra set out from Babylon on the first day of the first month, in the seventh year of Artaxerxes (Ezra 7:7-9). So the real question is the starting point: spring 458 or autumn 457.
I start in the autumn, for a reason in Daniel 9 itself. Daniel was praying over Jeremiah's 70 years (Dan 9:2), and Scripture counts those as sabbath years: 'until the land had enjoyed her sabbaths' (2 Chr 36:21). Sabbath years ran from autumn to autumn, from Tishri. So I let the 70 weeks of years begin on the first sabbath boundary after the decree, Tishri 457 BC. A second witness points the same way. At His first Passover the Jews said that the temple had been 46 years in building (John 2:20). Herod began around 20/19 BC, so that Passover falls in AD 27/28, after a baptism in the autumn of 27. Luke 3:1 alone does not settle it, and I say so openly: the fifteenth year of Tiberius can be counted more than one way (Three Days and Three Nights: Tiberius, John, and the years of the ministry).
On 'after' you make a fair point. If the 70th week starts the day after the 69th ends, the cross three and a half years later is also 'after' the 62 weeks. But then Gabriel describes one event twice, first as 'after the 62 weeks' and then as 'in the half of the week'. And in the same verse 'after' also covers the fall of the city, 39 years later. 'After' is open; it carries no week number. That is why I do not read the half of the week into it.
That Gabriel may have been vague on purpose, I can follow: 'the words are closed up and sealed until the time of the end' (Dan 12:9). That holds for my reading as much as for theirs. When the seal opens, it opens from the text.
And yes, the real fork is who 'he' is in 9:27. You saw that well. I gave my reasons in point 3, and I will gladly test them with you slowly. Ezekiel 4 I will look at again; it is the chapter where God gives 'a day for each year' (Ezek 4:6), the key we both use.
On the abomination at or before AD 70: Jesus says that 'immediately after the tribulation of those days' the sun will be darkened, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds (Matt 24:29-30). In AD 70 the temple fell, but the sky did not open. That is why I keep the abomination ahead of us.
You wrote that you do not want to be watching for the wrong events. Neither do I. But the Lord made that safe for us: 'What I say to you, I say to all: Watch' (Mark 13:37). We watch for Him. If one of us has the order of events wrong, the One we watch for does not change.
Carole, I share your instinct about the love of God: 'for the elect's sake those days will be shortened' (Matt 24:22). On my reading, too, the great tribulation is the last half, 1,260 days, not 7 years. Stan, thank you for joining in.
And Kathy, you are not alone. We all sit at this table with open Bibles.
With love, in Him who is coming,
Henk
Henk, your reply has inspired digging into the Word that I would not have done otherwise. I have to thank you, as the digging is always all consuming and thoroughly enjoyable. Every reply to your points comes out sounding like an argument, so I will let my comments stand as they are. Blessings, and happy digging to you.
DeleteLu...if my note from last year's calendar is correct, today (10/25) is your birthday. Please verify and I'm sure you'll get a lot of birthday wishes from the Rev12 Family.
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YES! It is on my calendar too, but I didn't get the wishes done before I left for church and errands today! Thanks Bob. I love your graphic🥰. Hope you treat yourself to an In-N-Out burger, Lu on us🎉
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DeleteBirthday wishes...Thanks everyone! :) Lu
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It is an issue of ‘getting lost in translation!’ :) No problem. But being an Academic, I tend to ramble a lot and at times I do not know when it is too much or not enough to share. I did note that as far as the Sukkot 7-day countdown is concerned, it is only taking the parallels inference from the Noah 7-day countdown to when the rain started and superimposing onto the Sukkot 7-day countdown; nothing more.
That is what I and Jaco suppose, as I also stated that if we are going by the new re-calibrated October 11 New Moon, then Cheshvan 17 would be on November 25, based on my calculations. Noted. It is all conjecture, but the greatest birthday wish would be to have us all be glorified on the 7th day, no? :)
As to the Wednesday, April 14, 32 AD Blood Moon crucifixion? Yes, the present U.S. Naval Observatory has it on Monday. It is the standard answer, period. What I, and I think 1 other Brother, ‘Supernatural by Design’ espouse, is how, considering Zeller’s Congruence, the tolerance is within 2 days when using his conversion formula. See his video about it as he gets more into the mathematical background and details than I do.
32AD & The 84Yr Prophecy New Evidence
Supernatural By Design
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn6ZjFYaK-I
Brother Jarred has not posted in about a year now, so I hope all is well with him. So, yes, there is some excitement going on because of this possible Halloween convergence. And note that we also need to pay attention to Jupiter and Mars. War is surely coming and November 11 is when a significant event might just turn out to be that.
So, we Keep the Watch,
Lu
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Day of the Week Calculation Formula
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Lu, thank you, and a blessed new year of your life once more. Lost in translation is no problem at all; I ramble too. The Sukkot countdown is clear to me now: a parallel with Noah, held loosely. And amen to your birthday wish. Whatever the day, 'Even so, come, Lord Jesus' (Rev 22:20).
DeleteThank you also for the straight answer on April 14, AD 32, and for the link. I watched Brother Jarred's video, and on the arithmetic he and I agree. Julian April 14, AD 32 was a Monday. Gregorian April 14 was a Wednesday, and Gregorian April 14 is Julian April 16. Zeller's congruence gives exactly that, in its Julian form and in its Gregorian form; your chart shows the Gregorian one ('Works for any date in the Gregorian calendar!'). So the two days are not a tolerance in the formula. They are the gap between the two calendars.
Where we part is one step. Jarred reads NASA's eclipse date as a Gregorian date. But NASA's catalog states, under 'Calendar' at the top of the page, that it uses the Julian calendar for every date before October 15, 1582 (NASA, Catalog of Lunar Eclipses: 0001 to 0100). So the total eclipse it lists there on '0032 Apr 14' (number 04902) is Julian April 14: the Monday.
And the moon settles it, whatever calendar we hang on it. An eclipse of the moon can only happen at full moon. The moon was full around 09:00 UT on Julian April 14 (Gregorian April 12), the very hour NASA gives for the eclipse. On Gregorian April 14, Julian April 16, the moon was already two days past full, some 25 degrees from the earth's shadow. No eclipse could happen that day.
So the blood moon of AD 32 was real, and it was total. But it fell on a Monday, and it was seen over the Pacific; in Jerusalem the moon was far below the horizon.
On Jupiter and Mars: they come closest on November 16, about 1.2 degrees apart, in Leo. On November 11 they are still a little over 2 degrees apart.
Like you, I keep the watch: the Word first, the sky second.
With love, in Him who is coming,
Henk
RE: Julian to Gregorian conversion calendars?
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You are the 1st to challenge this notion of the Crucifixion day when using Zeller’s Congruence. I recognize what NASA catalogs. I would be interested in knowing what Brother Jarred would say about your review. Perhaps consider a message to him, if he is still active on YouTube.
So, do not mind the ‘All-Powerful’ Lu-Oz behind the curtain! Lol. Now that the curtain has been pulled back! :) But in all honesty, you ended with how it is all about Scripture 1st and Astronomy 2nd. Amen to that. This is where it really boils down to me. It is, I admit forcing the template of a 7 day or week prophecy of Daniel into the Crucifixion week. So, I am directly interpreting the ‘midst of the week’, literally as corresponding to a Wednesday. Or having to despite what NASA catalogs.
And if NASA’s catalog says otherwise? Perhaps. But I am not 100% convinced, as of yet. It is one of those topics of study that one is just at, on the ‘Learning Curve’. Until further notice, I can only have a change of mind and heart when it truly happens for my end. It is just that with the issues of calendars, there is ambiguity to filter.
Even, as you may know, the Julian calendar has what is called the Julian Proleptic Calendar and then the Revised one. Go figure. Then according to research, there was a complication with the Julian calendar’s leap-day practice that was reported to have been irregular between 45 BC and AD 8. So, perhaps this could account for the 2-day discrepancy, even so up to 32 AD and beyond, etc.
More study will be required on my part, provided I have time…but I think we are running out of time.
Blessings,
Lu
Lu, thank you for this answer. You took it with a grace I do not see often, and the curtain made me laugh:D I am not in touch with Brother Jarred, but you are welcome to pass my note on; I would gladly hear his answer.
DeleteLet me help you with the part that remains, because I think your Wednesday is right. It only lands one year earlier.
You read 'the midst of the week' as a Wednesday. Hold on to that, and lay the line of Daniel beside it. From the autumn of 457 BC, 483 years bring us to the autumn of AD 27, the baptism. Three and a half years further is the spring of AD 31, the middle of the seven years from 27 to 34. In that spring Nisan 14 fell on Wednesday, April 25 (Julian; Gregorian April 23), and the moon was full that very evening. And that night, while Jesus, the Beloved of heaven, lay in the tomb, a third of the moon was darkened in the earth's shadow, a partial eclipse (NASA, number 04900, '0031 Apr 25'). In Jerusalem it was clearly visible, high in the south-eastern sky, from about half past nine until half past eleven at night. Fifty days later Peter stood in that same city and quoted Joel: 'the sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood' (Acts 2:20). His hearers had seen the darkness at noon (Luke 23:44-45) and the darkened moon that night. A middle in the years and a middle in the days, meeting at the cross.
In AD 32 the moon will not give us that. Nisan 14 fell on Sunday, April 13, or Monday, April 14 (Gregorian April 11 or 12), depending on the evening the first crescent was seen (March 30 or 31; Gregorian March 28 or 29). The Wednesday of that week, Julian April 16, was already Nisan 16 or 17. That is the very day the calculators show as 'Wednesday, April 14': Gregorian April 14.
On the calendars: the irregular leap days were real, but they belong to the years before AD 8. By then Augustus had set the Roman calendar right, and from that point it ran in step with the Julian calendar as we compute it. The 'Revised Julian' calendar is a modern one (1923), used by some Orthodox churches. And none of this moves the moon or the week. The seven-day week has run unbroken, and Nisan 14 was set by the moon over Jerusalem, not by a Roman date. Count the days from the full moon, and the weekday comes out the same under every calendar.
I worked this out in Three Days and Three Nights: the case for the crucifixion on Wednesday, 25 April, AD 31, for the Wednesday that Jesus Himself gave us: 'three days and three nights in the heart of the earth' (Matt 12:40).
You wrote that we may be running out of time. Then this was time well spent: Scripture first, the sky second, and the Wednesday still standing.
With love, in Him who is coming,
Henk
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In a move that exudes a distinct Gog-Magogish aroma, high-ranking officials from Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan met with Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian in Tehran the other day in talks reportedly aimed at "de-escalating Middle East tensions." Yes...de-escalation. That's what they're after.
Gosh, "de-escalation" has a sensibly diplomatic, almost peace-loving sound to it, doesn't it? In reality, however, these talks were the first high-level meeting between Iran and three other signatories of the Mecca mutual defense pact, which was formed in August. And the focus of the talks was their need to stand together against Israeli aggression (backed by America in the form of the Trump administration, of course).
Pezeshkian was forceful in urging not only the nations at the meeting, but all Islamic nations to forge a single, unified force to come against Israel and its American backers. Iran is framing the talks around the noble ideas of mutual defense and solidarity against the aggression of the U.S. and Israel.
But like I said: It's just got that Gog-Magog aroma to it.
Although Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are not specifically listed as players in Ezekiel 38, what that aroma calls to my mind is the fact that when it does come time for the attack of Gog-Magog, it won't necessarily be cast as a simple attempt to wipe Israel off the face of the earth...oh no.
It will more likely be cast as an act of self-defense by Islamic nations against an aggressive Zionist regime that—with the obscenely generous aid and misplaced support of its American enablers—has occupied the land of the poor, oppressed Palestinians and engaged in genocide against those same people for far too long. And by Allah it's gotta stop.
And many of you need no reminder of the following detail:
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Number One would be Russia, who is still busy with Ukraine at the moment. But I can't help but remind myself that their war with Ukraine will come to an end; and when it does, their attention will turn to a different enemy.
Troubling election news from Israel, per Amir Tsarfati. Either there will have to be another round of elections or the Left will form a government comprised of those who actually do not believe in Israel’s right to exist. Arabs voted early in the day in massive numbers in an attempt to wage election Jihad (like in America) which prompted many Jews to go out and vote. God help Israel. Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud party only has 55 seats with 48% of the votes counted, and he needs 61 to have a majority. This parliamentary form of government is a nightmare. Glad our Founding Fathers rejected it. What gratitude we owe them all.
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All well said and taken. The issue for me that I have brought up in attempting to calculate the timelines is what is the ‘Start Year’ or time. As we know, that will set the trajectory accordingly. Were also differ is how I use the 4th and final Medo-Persian Royal Decrees. That last one was in -445 BC. It sets apart the only one that deal with the rebuilding Jerusalem, its walls and not the Temple as all 3 prior Royal Decrees stipulated and reiterated.
Then applying the astronomical approximation of when the Spring Equinox took place in in March 20, thereabouts, you factor the day-count given to Daniel, being the 173,880 days. That was the Nisan 10 that the ‘Day of Visitation Jesus scolded and held the Jewish Teachers for not recognizing. And even if one argues that the Spring Equinox that year was in March 25-26, as some sources estimated, then that directly lands on April 14, when Jesus was ‘Cut Off’ or killed, just as foretold to Daniel.
So, my point is that here is an example of how the start year determines the end-date or year. In this model, it compliments a 32 AD crucifixion year. This does not mean it is what actually happened, but it is the why and the now behind it. Also, this same year count is eerily replicated in the Royal Decree of Suleiman the Magnificent in how likewise, the walls of Jerusalem are rebuilt, etc.
This prophetic theme also has echoes of Ezra, in how the Altar of Sacrifice was reconstructed first after the Babylonian Exile and how the wall of Jerusalem were worked on. Fast forward to today, you have now completed the Altar of Sacrifice according to Tovia Singer and Adam Birkowitz. See video if interested.
Blessings,
Lu
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A265: 3RD TEMPLE ALTAR OF SACRIFICE
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https://youtu.be/HsUaopZ2WS0
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Lu, thank you. You are right that the start year sets the trajectory; that is where the whole question lives, for my count as much as for yours. So let me test the 445 start with the same measure I put on my own.
DeleteFirst, the day. Your calculator is right: from March 20, 445 BC to April 10, AD 32 is exactly 173,880 days. But a calculator only confirms that one date lies 173,880 days after another. Whether March 20 is the right start is the real question. Nehemiah gives the month, not the day: 'in the month Nisan, in the twentieth year of King Artaxerxes' (Neh 2:1). That Nisan ran from about March 15 to April 12, 445 BC (Julian). Add 173,880 days to any day in it, and you land anywhere between about April 5 and May 3, AD 32. A count to the exact day needs a first day, and the text does not give one. The equinox is not in Nehemiah either. And it fell on March 26 (Julian) that year; March 20 is about its Gregorian date. Try March 26 in your calculator: you get April 16.
Second, the measure. Why would these 483 years be years of 360 days, when the rest of God's history runs in years of the sun? The 70 years of exile that Daniel was reading (Dan 9:2; Jer 25:11) were real years, the sabbaths the land had to make up (2 Chr 36:21). The 2,000 years since the cross we both count in ordinary years (Hos 6:2; 2 Pet 3:8). Scripture uses the 360-day measure where it says so: 'a time, times and half a time', the 42 months and the 1,260 days, all in the second half of the seventieth week (Dan 7:25; 12:7; Rev 11:2-3; 12:6, 14; 13:5). And 483 years of 360 days are only 476 years of the sun.
Third, Anderson's own sum, and here the day matters, because he claims his interval contains 'exactly and to the very day' 173,880 days. Counted day by day the way your calculator counts, his span from March 14, 445 BC to April 6, AD 32 is 173,882 days, not 173,880. Where did the days go? He counted 116 leap days, where 476 Julian years have 119: he applied the Gregorian rule for century years to Julian dates (The Coming Prince, ch. 10, note 7). It is the same mix of the two calendars we found at April 14. (By his own inclusive way of counting it comes to 173,883.) Hoehner's later version, from March 5, 444 BC to March 30, AD 33, is 173,884. Close, but a count that claims the exact day has to hit it. And notice: your route (March 20 to April 10) and his (March 14 to April 6) both claim the exact day, from different days. An exactness that can be had from either start comes from the choice of the days, not from the text.
My own start needs none of this. From the autumn of 457 BC, 483 ordinary years reach the autumn of AD 27, the anointing at the baptism (Acts 10:38): 'until Messiah the Prince'. Its weak point I say openly: Ezra 7 gives Jerusalem its judges and its law (Ezra 7:25-26), but it does not mention building. Why I still hold it, with Ezra 4:12 and 4:21, I worked out here (The Cornerstone: the decree). And Daniel seems to sign it in the verse itself: 'from the going forth of the word to' (מִן מֹצָא דָבָר לְ, Dan 9:25) adds up to 457. A signature, not a proof.
One question, brother: which line do you mean with Suleiman? His walls went up in the late 1530s. From which year do you count, and to which?
And thank you for the video on the altar. I watch that too: Daniel 12:11 needs the daily offering to run before it can be taken away. After the exile it went the same way, the altar first and the temple later (Ezra 3:2-6).
With love,
Henk
Henk,
DeleteYes, I meant to say from April 10, not from the 14th, as that was the Passover. But even if the Equinox was on March 26, which I suspect is way too late, the eve of the 17th, being Nisan 17 or Resurrection is just fine with me.
Here is my perspective. I like to think we should be as precise as possible because the LORD is and the days He has chosen are. But here we are some 1,994 years into the future looking back from 32 AD and 2000+ from the Royal Medo-Persian Decrees. We are attempting to narrow-down a specific day within a month’s time. That level of measurement or tolerance is amazing.
To get it that close is pretty good in my book. It is within the Zone of just 1 year off, if I am off. Or worse, 7 years away but not likely. True, a lot of information or details are not noted in Scripture. But it does not mean a factor is not or could not be implied or inferred. This is why I rather rely more on the day-count of those 173,880 days and not calendar years as those get convoluted.
Why 360 years? Or Biblical years? Well, if one will argue that, then we just have to throw out Sir Anderson’s calculation and all others. On this account, I have relied solely on the prior work of Chuck Missler and Grant Jeffrey. But as you rightly noted, this same principle of days and months is stressed and not years for the coming 70th Week of Daniel. It is based on 360 days because the present Gregorian Calendar did not exist in Daniel’s day. And we know that prior to Hillel 2, there as the Lunisolar calendar.
I have stated here before that based on my calculations, which are pure supposition, I differ from Sir Anderson’s calculation by the 4 days. It is because I count from March 20, the Spring Equinox. See chart link below. Despite NASA’s catalog, I am looking at when the Ancient Persians determined their New Year or Nowruz. The Persian New Year was associated with the Spring Equinox, the moment the Sun entered Aries, as most if not all ancient societies did.
But as we know, the Precession of the Equinoxes has changed the backdrop of the 12 Signs but not the timing of the Equinoxes or Solstices. That is why, sky models can confirm when the Sun rose in Aries in March 20, -445 BC. Also, according to A.I., in -445 BCE Persian administrators commonly used a Perso-Babylonian Lunar Calendar, so the civil or Regnal New Year differed from the Religious Spring Festival when trying to superimpose it onto a solar day-count. Then if one considers the Solar Hijri (Iranian/Persian) Calendar, one can retro-calculate back to the day of March 20, -445 BC to have been the Spring Equinox.
So, yes, I am exclaiming an exact day, using un-exact dates. If you have been here a while back when I wrote my book about 32 AD being the crucifixion year, we had this sort of discussion. And thanks to many Brethren, especially Stephan from Germany, he made me realize that I could not make such precise day-count claims. That at best, it is ‘circumstantial evidence’. And that is where I am at in all this speculation, as that is what it is or can say.
I just do not know what I do not know. You could very well be correct. So, if I am off by 1 year? Huray! ;) But here is the chart about the Tetrad that occurred in 32-33 AD. I find it rather interesting that in the 3rd Blood Moon of the Tetrad of 2033, it matches the precise month and day, April 14. Does this prove the April 14, 32 AD crucifixion timeline? No, it is just circumstantial evidence.
TETRAD BLOOD MOONS 32-33 AD
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jw2MCNbhaKbZALi_17yQTH_Xwl_j-LEW/view?usp=drive_link
TETRAD BLOOD MOONS 2032-33 AD
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_xl4fswhARqaqGxLdM6eHdnyQ1c1C45F/view?usp=drive_link
As to the Suleiman Decree?
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BASED ON THE SULEIMAN DECREE?
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https://youtu.be/IrKiSlSeRQs
Henk,
DeleteLastly, as you too are a man of Astronomy, perhaps you might appreciate this depiction of the Spring Equinox on -445 BC in Aries, on the Persian New Year of March 20, per Stellarium. I find it rather astonishing that on that precise day, the Planet of the Messiah is there with the Sun on the New Year that stars the day-count to His Visitation. Perhaps.
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EQUINOX SPRING -445BC NEW YEAR DECREE
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-sSaMfd9n6d86qt2u7Ca71HrEeDIOSh0/view?usp=drive_link
Lu
EQUINOX SPRING -445BC NEW YEAR DECREE
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Lu, thank you. 'An exact day, using un-exact dates': that is honest, and I respect it. And yes, if one of us is off by one year: hurray. We are looking at the same cross.
DeleteOne small thing you can check in your own Stellarium. Your screen shows -444-03-20, and before 1582 Stellarium gives Julian dates. On that day the Sun has not yet reached the celestial equator. Step forward to March 26 and you will see it cross. March 20 is the equinox in our Gregorian reckoning, and that is also what a Solar Hijri back-calculation gives. You are right that precession does not move the equinox in the sky. But the Julian year is eleven minutes too long, so the Julian date of the equinox drifts: about March 26 in 445 BC, March 21 at Nicaea in 325. That is the very drift Jarred explained in his video. Your calculator counts in Julian dates, so it needs March 26. And you are right about Jupiter: at the true equinox it still stood within 3 degrees of the Sun, in Aries.
On the 360 days: the calendar of Daniel's day was indeed lunisolar, but a lunisolar year is not 360 days. Twelve moons make about 354 days, and a thirteenth month, seven times in nineteen years, keeps the calendar with the sun and the barley (Deut 16:1). So 483 lunisolar years are 483 years of the sun.
Your tetrad charts are beautiful. One caution, the same as before: April 14, AD 32 is a Julian date, April 14, 2033 a Gregorian one; in one calendar they lie two days apart. And by that same match across calendars, the first blood moon of that tetrad, April 25, 2032, carries the date of my Wednesday, April 25, AD 31. I hold that as loosely as you hold yours.
Thank you for the Suleiman line; I read your article. 1536 + 490 = 2026, and 1541 + 490 = 2031 (not 2033). The building itself began in 1537, and 1537 + 490 = 2027. So the walls rose from 1537 to 1541, and 490 years later that is 2027 to 2031: in my count, the opening of the last week and its middle. I write it down; I put no weight on it.
With love, in Him who is coming,
Henk
Henk!
DeleteThanks for taking the time to weigh my research and calculations. Truly, you are sharpening my iron. So, it is much appreciated. Another word we have come to use around here is ‘Inadvertently’. It is when we or I have said something and then other Brethren have realized that I had ‘inadvertently’ proven their point, without realizing it.
So, as the year 2026 is turning the corner of its Gregorian end, 2027 will then have to be considered. We will all have to adjust our timelines and calculations. So, like that Suleiman Decree calculation, perhaps 2027 is the more correct end-date. But I think that most would agree that since 2025, Biblical prophecy has accelerated like in no other decade and what is coming up to 2033.
2025, 2026, 2027, 2028, 2029, 2030, 2031, 2032, 2033
In such times where we are at, we just have to set back and allow the LORD to work it all out as we compare notes and keep the watch…
Blessings,
Lu
Lu, thank you, brother. Iron sharpens iron (Prov 27:17), and it works both ways: your questions sent me back to Anderson's own notes, and I learned from that.
DeleteOn 2027: in my count it is not an end-date but a beginning. The last week opens on 1 Tishri, October 2, 2027, 2,000 years after the baptism in AD 27. Its middle is Passover 2031, and it closes in the autumn of 2034. So in your row of years, 2027 to 2034 is the week, and I see the gathering of the Bride inside it, most logically in 2028. Whether that holds, the coming years will tell. Meanwhile we compare notes and keep the watch, as you say.
With love, in Him who is coming,
Henk
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According to Amir Tsarfati’s latest report and the Shin Bet (Israel’s FBI) the election in Israel was rigged by Qatar and Turkey. They funneled money into the country to bribe Arabs to vote in unprecedented numbers. We have truly witnessed Jihad by election.
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Thanks, LU! I just got on here for the same purpose! Added it to The 5787 Election and the Sign of the Coming of Messiah
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Thanks, Lyn, for typing that out for us--much easier to remember and refer back to!
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DeleteHalloween: An Echo of Noah’s Flood by T.W. Tramm
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DeleteSo, here is a very short and good insinuation from TW Tramm, about the true origins of Halloween and the Day of the Day. It is really the worldwide memorialization of the Flood of Noah. I agree. You cannot have that mass worldwide psychosis not noted in human history, but how it has filtered down the millennia’s.
Lu
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Halloween
An Echo of Noah’s Flood by T.W. Tramm
T.W. Tramm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6spF-z5Zr7Y
Thanks, LuLu😂
DeleteRE: The Sampson Option about to happen?
DeleteAs it has been said and dreamt, ‘As the bombs come down, we go up!’
We will see, but there is a crescendo of sorts in the Spriit Realm rattling.
Will it finally be the Rapture event? Are we there yet? Lol
Lu
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🚨RAPTURE ALERT🚨
Wackadoodle Samoan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCzDRQaTbrM
Archangel.....I agree with the released power of resurrecting bodies as being like an atomic bombs release of tremendous energy.. The shroud of Turin has evidence of x-ray like images in this burial cloth of Jesus. The bible mentions an earthquake with Jesus's resurrection...and other quakes.
ReplyDeleteRevelation 6:12 mention a GREAT EARTHQUAKE as the 6th seal is opened.
Revelation 11:13 mentions a GREAT EARTHQUAKE....at the very end of the 6th trumpet...the 2nd woe.
Revelation 16:18 says..."and there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings, and a GREAT EARTHQUAKE."..as the 7th vial is poured out.
Once I saw that this GREAT EARTHQUAKE mentioned three times in Revelation...... is the one and the only GREAT EARTHQUAKE, I simply can not unsee it.
There are several more scriptural clues...but let me pray that my efforts in brevity will say the correct words to make at least someone to go hmmm.
I believe that the 6th seal GREAT EARTHQUAKE, the 6th trumpet GREAT EARTHQUAKE, and the 7th vial GREAT EARTHQUAKE...not only as I mentioned the same single GREAT EARTHQUAKE....but also these three mentions of the same GREAT EARTHQUAKE...all happen within an ACTUAL 60 minute hour of time. Some scriptural clues..
Revelation 8 :1says..."and when he had opened the 7th seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of HALF AN HOUR."
Revelation 11:13 says ..."And the SAME HOUR was there a GREAT EARTHQUAKE"...then right after were a remnant that were affrighted and gave glory to God.
Then the next verse 14 says..."The second woe is past, and, behold, the third woe cometh QUICKLY.
Please read the rest of Revelation 11...verses 15-19 carefully and with prayer.
Verse 15 has the 7th angel sounding..and the kingdoms of the world are
now the kingdoms of our Lord.
But verse 18 is referring to those after the GREAT EARTHQUAKE as affrighted and giving glory to the God of heaven They have their own transforming to immortality release of power.
Verse 29 has the temple of God opened in heaven and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings and an EARTHQUAKE! This earthquake is not great simply because its just a small remnant receiving the transforming power being released and thus no word ..GREAT..describing it.
There is a lot more I can say...and I know this will not gain traction...but let me say one more comment.
I do not believe at all the phrase "when the nukes come down..we go up."
We will most definitely see nuclear exchanges...and I bet no one will hardly remember me saying we will be here and stay here during such.
All I ask is if anyone here that doubts all I say above...should remember what I said...will you promise to take it to the Lord in prayer what I havebsaid? God bless and I just had to get this off my chest. I am not setting dates...but I strongly feel nukes will soon fly, and our way of life will be to help when others to the Lord.
Corrections at the end...Verse 19..
ReplyDeletenot 29...has the temple of God opened..
and "our way of life woll be to win others to the Lord
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not when others.
NYPrepper
ReplyDeletehttps://youtu.be/dmS41-MF2vY?is=f6uTrqA8_dWnNk3F
Between listening to Watchman River Tom and NYPrepper latest, I have learned the following:
Delete1. Pres Trump may attack Iran after the midterms or sooner.
2. 10 military transport planes landed in Israel (among others) carrying armaments.
3. Admiral Cooper briefed Pres Trump at the WH which he also did just before the Feb 28 attack
4. The US Army is conducting drills involving building mass graves. First time since the Korean
War in a drill called Dragon Covenant.
5. Pres Trump has a bomb more powerful than the GBU-57 which can blow up tunnels.
It may be wise to stock up on water and some food. It may get real sooner rather than later.
Archangel....You are on top of it!!
ReplyDeletePOINT 4....This Dragons Covenant goes so much deeper than the trenches they are planning for mass radiological burials. Anyone, please google search Monkey Werx YouTube and go to his latest video on this Dragons Vovenant Pete Hegseth is rolling out. Monkey Werx is a devout Christian guy that basically has a sitcom room that tracks all flights on thr planet except those classified and have their transpondersoff He fits so many pieces into the spiritual, political world...and doesnt really push either side
..but rather exposes both wings of a very EVIL bird.
POINT 5
Names for missions are not just drawn out of a hat...they are thought out deeply, wording precise and often with a hidden double meaning. Not any different that designing your logo for your company.
This Iran war started with operation "Midnight Hammer" as we dropped that bunker buster bomb on that mountain....claiming to decimate their operation. That brought instantly to my mind the verse in Jeremiah 50:23..."how is the hammer of the whole earth cut asunder?... Operation Midnight Hammer was the start.
The Iran war officially started on 2/28/2026 with another mission name..."Epic Fury"... which brought to my mind Daniel 8 practically being read on all the nations broadcast...they may as well put Daniel 8 up on their teleprompter to read. Verse. 5...A he GOAT...(Greatest Of All Time military)... came from the west on the face of the whole earth, and touched not the ground..( B2 bombers being air refueled..their wheels not touching the ground...and cruise missiles)..this GOAT had a notable horn between his eyes.
6. "And he came to the ram thar had two horns..(Media and Persia)..., which I had seen standing before the river, and ran into him in the FURY of his power...(Operation Epic FURY)..
So...fast forward to October 31st, 2026...here we are..poised with a new far more intensive attack...while dozens of overnight cellphone videos are showing Iranian movement of all kinds of missiles.
Oh...we will break the bow of Elam...but not wipe them out as this will end up in a messy ground war that will be a church picnic to what comes next.
The Bible is literally jumping out of the pages. I really believe that the morning star rising now and much more prominently later in Novemver is the Revelation 7:2 angel ascending in the east with the seal of God that will seal the 144,000. I am expecting a very noticeable earthquake giving us the clue as these 144,000 are redeemed. Then, the 4 angels which are told in the previous verse not to harm the earth, grass or trees.. holding back the first four trumpets...are now given that the permission once the 144,000 are sealed.
I believe this ascending angel in the east has now risen to the altar as Revelation 8:3 says..."and another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer....that he should offer it with the prayers of all the saints upon the altar which was before the throne."
Please note what happens. It looks like to me we have reached the point where the Jeremiah 14:10-16 passage is about to be fulfilled. Paraphrasing it..God tells Jeremiah to not pray for this people, for He will not hear these prayers., but will consume them by sword, famine and pestilence.
Now look at what the angel at the altar does after all these prayers ascended up before God...in verse 8:5...this angel took the censer, filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth. That looks like the prayers were not heard...and the result of this casting down of fire from the altar...were , voices, thunderings lightnings...and an earthquake....the very earthquake which this resurrecting fire released into the ground as the 144,000 are sealed and transformed. Now Revelation 8:7 commences with the first trumpet...and we will then see the earth, trees, and grass harmed.
Time will soon tell. I feel we are on the edge right now, but of course God could hear our prayers and delay it. But when will He mot hear our prayers any more?
Blessings, Bro Stan. I watched MonkeyWerx late last night. I keep thinking about how he said Dan Bongino went from saying to stock up for 3 days to 30. Also, the reasons for calling the Army’s exercise “Dragon Covenant”. Surface to air missiles were moved to Mar-O-Lago, too. That is disturbing. Glenn Beck is sounding the alarm unlike anything since 2007. Part of me wants to pretend nothing will happen, but I would hate to get caught unprepared. I want to at least have plenty of water. God bless you.
DeleteAs Bros LuLu, Henk and Bobby Z have pointed out, Mars moving into Leo and Virgo, that is also on my mind. That sign in the Heavens means war.
DeleteI have been using Google AI in recent weeks, and this is what it reports on Mars moving through Leo and Virgo:
DeleteMars is currently in Leo and is preparing for an extended back-and-forth dance between Leo and Virgo due to an upcoming retrograde cycle.
The exact timeline for Mars moving into and out of these signs includes:
Timeline for Mars in Leo and Virgo
• September 27, 2026: Mars entered Leo.
• November 25, 2026: Mars leaves Leo and enters Virgo for the first time.
• January 10, 2027: Mars stations retrograde at 10° Virgo and begins moving backward.
• February 21, 2027: The retrograde pulls Mars out of Virgo and back into Leo.
• April 1, 2027: Mars turns direct (moves forward again) while still in Leo.
• May 14, 2027: Mars leaves Leo for good and re-enters Virgo to finish its transit.
• July 15, 2027: Mars exits Virgo and moves onward into Libra.
Exact as our Bros here have reported.
Dear Brother Stan, as I mentioned a few months ago, if November passes and we are still here, I will re-examine my position regarding the tribulation and the rapture. I am still waiting!
DeleteHowever, regarding your remark—"Look now at what the angel by the altar does, after all these prayers have ascended to God… in verse 8:5: 'The angel took the censer, filled it with fire from the altar, and threw it onto the earth.' One might think that our prayers were in vain… and that this fire, descending from the altar, triggered… voices, thunders, lightnings… and an earthquake…"—I do not interpret it that way, though this is merely my own understanding. I could be wrong, but as I see it, this means that after the prayers of His children have ascended to the golden altar before the throne of God—after He has heard or taken note of every single one of them—the response to all these prayers is a judgment upon the earth, manifested through earthquakes, fire, lightnings, and everything else described, because judgment is about to begin. It is God’s judgment against evil and injustice, "in response to the cries of His children" who are calling for justice—for, as it is written, the prayers ascend to the golden altar that stands before the throne. There are so many verses affirming that God answers His children, in one way or another; He does not disregard our prayers. But that is just my opinion. As for the rest, if we do not leave, I believe we will go through the tribulation foretold in the Bible—but, as you have already pointed out, God has promised never to forsake us.
RE: Mars- Retrograde
DeleteSo, here is the depiction of the start of the Mars, God of War retrograde in Leo and then in Virgo. There are some very interesting date correspondences. My dates start with the Astronomical Boundaries of the Signs.
Keeping the Watch,
Lu Vega
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Leo-Virgo Warpath
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jZBVZs7I9y4XL0i8a12Fz_euOGWb0e-Z/view?usp=sharing
Archangel, thank you for including me. One small precision, because my name is on it, and the two lists of dates are easy to mix up.
DeleteWhat I pointed out is the loop of Mars around Regulus, the bright heart star of the constellation Leo. Mars passes it on November 27, again on February 21 while moving backward, and a third time on May 15.
The dates Google gives you are astrological signs, and those are tied to the seasons: the sign Aries always begins at the spring equinox, around March 20. The star pictures are not tied to the seasons. In 2,000 years they have shifted almost a month against the calendar, so signs and constellations now lie almost one place apart. That is why the sign Virgo begins where Regulus stands, in the heart of the Lion.
That is why your list and mine describe the same three moments. When Google says Mars 'enters Virgo' on November 26, 'returns to Leo' on February 21 and 're-enters Virgo' on May 14, Mars is each time passing Regulus. In the sky itself Mars entered the constellation Leo on October 31, makes its whole loop among the stars of the Lion, and reaches the stars of Virgo only around July 4, 2027.
You can see it yourself. On the night of November 26-27, once they have risen in the east before midnight, look for the bright white Regulus: the reddish 'star' right beside it, less than two degrees away, is Mars.
And I did not read it as war; I wrote it down. The same loop around Regulus came eight times between 1900 and 2100, one of them during Israel's war of independence (1947-48). God made the lights 'for signs and for seasons' (Gen 1:14). The Word tells us what they mean; the sky keeps the time.
With love, in Him who is coming,
Henk
Blessings, Brother Henk. I appreciate your insights. I’m starting to think of you, LuLu and Bobby Z as our Blog’s 3 Wisemen who devoted themselves to watching the Heavens and listening to God speak via His magnificent celestial billboard. Witnessing it all correspond with earthly events is encouraging and, frankly, breathtaking.
DeleteAA...thank you for including me as one of our Blog's 3 Astronomical Wisemen. But honestly, I'm not in the same league as Henk and Lu. However, I do receive inspiration from our Lord and Savior from time to time and I feel compelled to share with everyone here. We all have our special skills and I feel it's very important for all of us to work together and encourage each other as we seek to solve these very perplexing Biblical mysteries and try to determine when the Rapture will occur. But most importantly, our primary focus should be on Jesus, not on who is right or wrong, or on politics as is currently being debated over at unsealed.org right now, etc. Lastly, I think it's very important that we continue to "humble" ourselves and pray on this Final Day of the Feast of Tabernacles and/or the remaining days we still have here on Earth.
DeleteNow back to my cave (or my backyard garden + orchard!), as Stan often says! Lol!
Very welcome, Brothers. I really do appreciate your diligence in researching what’s going on above as it relates to end times events as we speed along towards the end of the Age of Grace.
DeleteI read about Apophis today and just shook my head that out of all the names under the sun, the astronomers who discovered it chose to name it after an “ancient Egyptian demon serpent who represented chaos, destruction, and darkness.” The flyby will occur on Friday April 13, 2029, another spooky detail. Just about 2 and 1/2 years from now.
I’m in my cave, too. I turned my dining room into a sitting room. It was a blast redecorating it. I have 3 gallery walls, shelves filled with plants, a new loveseat and accent chair, electric fireplace and a quaint round marble table topped with aquamarine colored marbles in a goldfish bowl. The themes in the paintings run from the 1920’s speakeasies, to black cats, Victorian era pics and then, for some reason, vintage bathtubs. The rug is a tranquil turquoise, much lighter than my usual taste but so suitable. I even bought a green bathroom so I match when visiting.
I recently started topping my London Fogs with Dunkin Donuts Extra Extra Cold Foam and find the taste delicious to the point that it must be a sin. It will definitely be included on the inflight menu. If you like sweet, you have to try it.
AA...with all your talk about Mars in retrograde and Apophis possibly hitting Earth on 4-13-29 it looks like you got the Astronomy Bug too! Keep it up and we'll have to change the Blog's name to 3 Astronomical Wisemen + 1 Astronomical Wisewoman!
DeleteI see you've retreated to your cave too. In your case, a Victorian dining room with a turquoise rug, electric fireplace, etc. Throw in a London Fog latte with extra cold foam and you're "almost" in Heaven! Lol!
Meanwhile, Stan is diligently working in his "bunker cave" carving up squirrel meat and going over his prepper supply list and Bobby Z is scrounging around his orchard for any leftover figs or apples to make tonight's desert!
Stan's "world famous" squirrel stew followed up with Bobby Z's fig/apple tart and AA's London Fog latte. All from "The Cave" Diner! Lol!
Bob... I cooked a delicious squirrel last Tuesday, then took my concealed carry pistol and shot 2 more to replenish my stock and increase it. I cant keep my hands off my squirrel stock. Deer season is later this month...I will turn it all into deer sausage and burgers. :)
DeleteStan...you're so much like my friend and former co-worker who now lives in Chico, Ca. I used to duck and pheasant hunt with him years ago. He regularly goes deer and turkey hunting locally plus salmon, halibut and rock cod fishing in Alaska where his son works as a wildlife biologist. In-N-Out "Deer Burgers", eh! Never tried that before!
DeleteBob...Most people hearing about eating squirrel are repulsed...its a tree rat! they say. Everyone loves chicken, yet they are filthy in comparison to squirrels that live in the woods and only eat tree nuts. I am not talking about dumpster divers on town that go through garbage... The meat is better than my wife's special roast she prepares...and it is the best roast ever@...but I love my special cooked squirrel more than even a ribeye. I have cooked squirrel for many people and they can not get enough of it. I shoot thrm, then dress them out and wrap them individually in plastic packaging wrap....and put a month and year on them. They look like human hearts in my freezer. I had several thatgot hid at the bottom of my freezer a few years ago. I typically eat them when they are at two years in the freezer. They taste just as fresh as one that I shot and ate the same day....but ...the several I had missed were 3.5 years old...42 months...ha...but they tasted every bit as good. 0 freezer burn with how I wrap them. I have this down pat! My electricity is totally on solar and I did all the installation myself. It works great and most solar around my area only reduce their power bill. If the electric utility goes down, so does their power. I have full backup battery storage. I use it full time to cancel out my electric bill.
DeleteArchangel, thank you, and for the three wise men too. I would settle for being one of the shepherds who said, 'Let us go and see' (Luke 2:15) ;).
DeleteApophis is a fine find. In my count, as far as I see it now, April 13, 2029 falls in the window where I expect the first three trumpets. And the second trumpet reads: 'something like a great mountain burning with fire was thrown into the sea' (Rev 8:8). On today's calculations Apophis will not hit: NASA has ruled out an impact in 2029 and for at least a hundred years after. But those are calculations about the future. A push from something we do not yet see could bend its path more than projected. And Job reminds us that calamity can be orchestrated: 'the fire of God fell from heaven' (Job 1:16), and it was the adversary's work, allowed within a limit (1:12). Nor is Apophis the only rock out there. In 2019 an asteroid the size of a football field, 2019 OK, was found only a day before it passed within a fifth of the distance to the moon, and the one that exploded over Chelyabinsk in 2013 had not been seen at all. So I watch it closely, with an open mind.
A few things that may help you further:
- Closest approach: April 13, 2029, about 21:46 UT (5:46 PM Eastern), some 38,000 km from the center of the earth. That is closer than the satellites that bring us our TV. It is about 340 meters across, a fifth of a mile.
- It passes six minutes after the new moon, so the sky will be dark. From Europe, Africa and the Middle East it can be seen with the naked eye, as a 'star' that moves visibly among the stars. Over Jerusalem it stands about 50 degrees high late that evening. In America it is still daylight at that moment.
- NASA's JPL keeps the data on its pages about Apophis, if you want to dig further.
If you would like the report I wrote on how the signs in the sky line up with what I expect, send me a message through my Substack with your email address, and I will mail it to you. I do not plan to publish it, because it is speculative.
With love, in Him who is coming,
Henk
Thank you, Brother Henk! I also read that Apophis is the size, approximately, of the Eiffel Tower. With all that’s going on over there right now, I’m not sure that Tower is safe from destruction.
DeleteRE: Brotherhood of the Astros?
DeleteAh, come Bob! ;0 We will be the '3-Amigos!' :) And uf you want, I can hereby make you an Honorary Mexican, eh? lol.
Lu
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DeleteMaranatha....Thanks for your good response. Jeremiah 11:14 is a better example
ReplyDeleteGod reaches a point where he told him do not even pray for my people as I will not hear their prayers. We are blessed with a graceful God who does give us His limits.
I love you, brother, and I don’t want this to upset you, but here is what I found after doing some research: In the Bible, chapter 11 of the Book of Jeremiah explicitly speaks about the historical people of Israel and Judah in the Old Testament, and not about "born-again" Christians who have come to faith in Jesus.
DeleteHere is the textual and theological breakdown of this passage:
1. Historical and Literary Context
The text directly addresses the contemporaries of the prophet Jeremiah (around 600 BC). God is reminding them of the covenant made during the Exodus from Egypt. The recipients are clearly named within the text itself:
• Jeremiah 11:2: "Hear the words of this covenant, and speak to the men of Judah and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem."
• Jeremiah 11:10: "The house of Israel and the house of Judah have broken My covenant which I made with their fathers."
2. The Theme of the Broken Covenant
This chapter is an indictment against the Hebrew people of that era who had fallen into idolatry (specifically the worship of Baal). God announces an imminent judgment (the Babylonian exile) because the nation of Israel broke the Sinaitic Covenant.
3. The Connection to the New Testament and "Born-Again" Believers
For Christians who have come to faith in Jesus (considered in New Testament theology as grafted into or part of the "people of God"), the book of Jeremiah does contain an essential promise, but it is not found in chapter 11.
It is in Jeremiah 31:31 that God announces a transition from the old covenant to a new one:
This "New Covenant" (sealed by the blood of Jesus Christ according to the New Testament) is what includes all believers, both Jewish and non-Jewish, who are born again through faith. Jeremiah 11 specifically describes the failure of the first covenant by historical Israel, which later makes the promise in chapter 31 necessary. Be blessed!
Maranatha...Please, I appreciate your kind effort to redirect my thoughts on God not hearing our prayers. I will do some digging in chapter 31. I am opposite of upset... :)
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