Questioning the Stars in Rev12

Hey guys, I have been taking a fresh look at the text of Revelation 12 and am making some fresh progress and deeper understanding of the message God is revealing in this vital chapter. I believe one of the reasons He put the Great Sign in the heavens last fall was to direct our study toward Rev 12... a chapter that has clearly been misunderstood for far too long.  God basically used the heavens above to put a bright flashing neon light on this chapter so that we would take the time and understand its meaning...

So with that in mind I >have a question I would like your comments on if you are so inclined. It has to do with the stars that are cast down to the earth in Rev 12. So here is my question as concisely as I can put it:
Do you think the "third of the stars" that are swept down to the earth in Rev 12:4 are actually Satan and his angels which are also described as being thrown down in Rev 12:9?
Here are the verses next to each other for comparison:
Rev 12:4 His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.
Before answering, consider these points...




  • In verse 4, the dragon is responsible for sending the stars down, in verse 9 we know that Michael and his angels do the throwing. The dragon and Michael are very different characters.
  • In Rev 12:4, after sweeping down the stars, the dragon is patiently waiting for a child to be born, while in Rev 12:13 we see that immediately after the dragon is thrown down the child is already long gone. These events thus can't be happening at the same time.
  • Furthermore, this means that Satan was still comfortably in heaven practically right up to the birth of the child....while Rev 12:4-5 seems to imply this casting down happens before the birth.
  • While it might seem straight forward to interpret these events as one in the same since it has been generally accepted that the 1/3 of the angels fell at the time of the Satan's fall... is that actually correct?  Here is an excerpt of what Got Questions says on the subject:

    Since Satan is referred to as a star which fell or was cast down to earth, and Revelation 12:4 says a third of the stars were cast out with him, then the conclusion is that the stars in Revelation 12 refer to fallen angels, fully one third of the heavenly host.

    The only place we get the 1/3 number is in Revelation 12!  With what we know now about Rev12 and how God clearly uses the heavens to declare his glory and reveal knowledge, then is Rev 12:3-4 simply referring to another heavenly sign of the lateness of the hour our merciful God has planned to wake people up?
    I have long suspected that there will be some type of cosmic event in the heavens that plays out the a story of an event that will soon actually take place on the earth after Michael finishes wins his battle in Rev 12:8.  What do you think?

    We now know the Rev 12 Sign did not point to the actual day of the rapture, but the imagery of a woman (Israel) giving birth to a child (The Body of Christ) and that child being snatched out of harms way will soon actually take place at the rapture.  Could it be that another soon to come cosmic event will represent the future time when the devil and his angels are literally cast to the earth by Michael?

    Here is my original question again.... Are the "third of the stars" that are swept down to the earth in Rev 12:4 actually Satan and his angels which are also described as being thrown down in Rev 12:9?  Leave your thoughts below....

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    1. Thank you Brad, this is very amazing really! Making thoughts and Bible study about, praying for you and all yours! Maranatha!

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    2. Brad, as things in the headlights approach we squint and seek to better understand that which is approaching, of course. Your invitation to do so here is refreshing, thanks. My thoughts, arising from some recent conversations with my son, are that, as per one model, when a planet would pass through a screen of debris trailing any one of several comets (Nibiru, Draconid one 21P I think it is?) then roughly ONE THIRD of the earth's surface would take the blow. Many say the front half would but I think dynamics would cause the front 1/3 facing to get the worst of it and the 1/3 destruction of Trees, Grass and folks is echoed elsewhere. Thus, in this case, Rev 12:4 could pictorially be telling us that stars falling from heaven spanning roughly 1/3 the night sky will occur. When viewed from above that would describe the surface area so impacted I think. If so we are back, quite possibly, to Oct 2018 as a backstop (!?), Maranatha!

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      1. Thank you Jimboni, for your thoughts. I would also say, that John saw the real signs in heaven, where he was. Woman is the constellation and also believing Israel. Dragon, as I think, the constellation Dargon (Dragon in the Bible and in heaven, to me is the simplest) with Draconids in Oct 2017. And Dragon is also satan. Stars are the real stars and they represent angels, also fallen angels, and also seed of Abraham (Gen 26:4, KJV; Job 38:7, KJV), and angels of the seven churches (Rev 1:20, KJV), and false gods (Am 5:26, KJV). And with these types it seems to me, that the signs of Woman and Dragon were in Sep-Oct 2017, showing the very soon fulfilment, I'm waiting every day for. It's really true, as you say, Brad, all this shows that now Dragon (satan) will really thrown down with angels that rebelled with him. It seems to me also that all these events in Chapter 12 will be fulfilled successive, as John describes them as what he sees. These are my first thoughts on this topic, just in logical order. I will be very happy for a clearer interpretation.
        Blessings to all. Marantaha!

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      2. I totally agree with you my sister Alla ....

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    3. Wonderful study I will give some thoughts on it tomorrow! Thank you so much amen

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    4. First ritz buts bow gold fish crackers have salimenala

      https://youtu.be/pa0SvxABePs

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    5. Dear @family, first off Thank you very much Brad for putting this up! You may not know how much I have pondered this chapter 12 during last year now, especially with all these things I diligently researched about the "red dragon" (Nibiru / Planet X) topic... But what has helped me most to understand was in fact reading through the 1 BOOK OF ENOCH and how tightly these two creation entities STARS and ANGELS are in fact connected, also by name. I very much recommend reading it to get an impression of what I mean, you get it as a free read online. Please do your own research into it as I cannot explain everything here (and doing all research for you is like chewing the meat you should already be able to eat on your own now). Just as an example how others connect the dots when in-depth digging (click!)

      You may also read further here for example (for the bigger picture): https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/angels-and-angelology-2

      Anyways, you will very probably find Rev12 some kind of mysterious UNTIL you read the book of Enoch. It is not possible IMO to understand the descriptions in this chapter properly without having studied the basics needed about angels and stars mentioned there. Without the information from Enoch, you will always just speculating and guessing around. Remember that this book was part of the common scripture up to the Essenes at Jesus' time and even later. Everybody in church back then knew about what Gods original concept of angels and stars was, so why shouldn't we? MARANATHA!

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    6. Great musings Brad. On first look at vs' 4 and 9, the words 'cast' (vs 4) and 'thrown' (vs 9) come from the same greek root word 'Ballo' meaning both cast and throw(n). So while vs 9 does not say who did the throwing/casting, its lack of reference to the 'who' does not mean the two verses have to be mutually exclusive, but could be referable back to vs 4 for when Satan cast/threw the 1/3 stars out of heaven.

      However - on the flip side, vs 7 notes 'and there was no longer a place found for them in heaven', meaning that even if Satan didn't want to cast/throw down his own angels, it implies he wouldn't have had a choice as 'no room was found' after Michael and his angels fought them. Sooo a buck each way from my perspective...except...

      What if vs 4 was Satan purposefully coming to earth in preparation of devouring the child, forcing his fallen angels down to earth to ensure a victory, with the war in heaven taking place later on when Satan returns to heaven with his angels after having failed to persecute the woman (Israel). Perhaps Satan realises that his persecution of the woman is stifled by God, and Satan decides to try his luck with the child in heaven (Church/Bride), however this is when Michael and his angels fight Satan as 'no place was found in heaven for them' due to the bride taking its rightful place at the banqueting table with Jesus.

      Hmmm, I sense an 'intra-seal' theme coming on here...:)

      Ryan

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      1. Thanks for those thoughts Ryan! I really like where you're going... here are a few more things to chew on...

        First off, what is the cause of the war? I believe it is directly related to the harpazo… It's almost like Michael is clearing a path and cleaning house for saints coming to/through heaven via the rapture. They are evicting the undesirables so to speak and securing the area for the new arrivals for a very special homecoming... Also, if you read Rev 12:10, you get the sense that the harpazo and evicting is necessary for Christs full power and authority to come into its full prominence. I don't get how it works, but in Darby explained it a bit in this commentary from 1885:

        "I have no doubt that the “man child” spoken of in the chapter that we have been reading includes the church as well as Christ. But it is Christ that is principally meant, for the church would be nothing without Christ; it would be a body without a head. It is Christ who has been caught up; but the church is included, for whenever He begins to act publicly, even as regards Satan being cast down, He must have His body, His bride, with Him; He must have His brethren, His joint-heirs."
        - Reference: John Nelson Darby, Seven Lectures on the Prophetical Addresses to the Seven Churches (3d rev. ed.; London: G. Morrish, c. 1855)

        The phrase, "there was no longer a place for them in heaven is interesting". The word evicted comes to mind again. Perhaps this eviction coincides directly with the in-dwelling of the anti-Christ and his rise to power?

        As for your last paragraph, it seems to me that Rev 12:13 implies that him being thrown down was not intentional.... it say's "when the dragon saw he was thrown down"... I almost imagine a boxer waking up with the ref counting, 7...8...…..9. and the fallen boxer finally realizes he was knocked out and he is laying on his back.




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      2. Brad, I have seen the war in Heaven with Michael as getting Satan out once and for all because it was time. In his pride, Satan didn't see that as a possibility. God sends Michael to fight with him to get him out. Then, realizing he was thrown down to earth (as a do nothing, good-for-nothing man in the house is finally thrown out the door), he is absolutely irate and goes after the Jewish remnant who have fled Jerusalem and are supernaturally protected. Satan then goes after all those who believe in Christ and the mark of the beast system begins. I know this is simplified but that is ok with me.

        It sounds intra-seal, Ryan, but I am pre-rapture. So ... well, maybe the war in Heaven has nothing to do with our coming or entering Heaven and the timing of doing so.
        We could easily be arriving also from a different point or place in the heavenlies, far apart from wherever Satan has access to the heavenlies, and in his being able to accuse the brethren before God day and night.
        Satan was supposedly the highest of angelic beings. He fell because of pride and rebelled against God (Revelation 12:4) and took with him a third of the angels in heaven who had also rebelled. This would be when God cast him to the earth, yet he still had access to heaven.
        And, Revelation 12:9 would be the war in Heaven with the archangel, Michael to kick him and his minions out of heaven because his time was up.
        This being then a history of these events and not necessarily explaining one event and its details.

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      3. Yes, Cathi! These are very near to my thoughts also! Blessings to you!

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      4. Thank you, Alla! I hope you are having a good day! Blessings always, Cathi

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      5. @Brad
        "Also, if you read Rev 12:10, you get the sense that the harpazo and evicting is necessary for Christs full power and authority to come into its full prominence."

        Surely not, because if. as you believe, Jesus is God, then he would not be in need of anything.

        Neither the rapture nor Satan's eviction would make the slightest difference to his power and authority.

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      6. Well, it is important, Nafeesa because this is showing us His power and His being glorified and there is order to all that God does and this is part of fulfilling His will not only as it is in Heaven but also on Earth. As shown also in Revelation 11:15.

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      7. Brad - really liked the "Also, if you read Rev 12:10, you get the sense that the harpazo and evicting is necessary for Christs full power and authority to come into its full prominence." comment.

        God could not display his full power and authority with the flood until Noah and his family (and animals) were all safe and secure in the boat. Likewise, in Genesis 19:21, the Angel made it clear to Lot that he couldn't bring about destruction on S&G until Lot had made it safely to Zoar. He said to him, “Very well, I will grant this request too; I will not overthrow the town you speak of. 22 But flee there quickly, because I cannot do anything until you reach it.” (That is why the town was called Zoar.[f]). Its not that God 'cant' do it, its that he limits the full extent of his own power (read wrath for Revelation) until we are securely hidden away in his/our chambers.

        Really interesting, and I need to look more into your comments, particularly in light of Isaiah 14:12 "How you have fallen from heaven,
        O star of the morning, son of the dawn!
        You have been cut down to the earth,
        You who have weakened the nations!

        13“But you said in your heart,
        ‘I will ascend to heaven;
        I will raise my throne above the stars of God,
        And I will sit on the mount of assembly
        In the recesses of the north."

        Very similar language which may give us more clues as to intent etc. Note the 'mount of assembly' comment...wonder which 'assembly' that is:)

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      8. I just read about Amir having a DVD on the nations being deceived. Maybe that would interest youz Through and Through.

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      9. thanks Cathi - will definitely check it out.

        Ryan

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      10. I don't really think the harpazo is the reason for the war in heaven. This has been going on for a long time now. Remember Michael already fighting with a regional fallen angel in charge, the 'prince of the kingdom of Persia' at Daniel's time for three weeks alone (Daniel 10:13)? And how our LORD uttered in John 12:31 how the 'prince of this world' (i.e. Satan = Ephesians 2:2 / 2 Corinthians 4:4) is being cast out? The "War in Heaven" began with the rebellion of the angels already which was even pre-Adamite Fall in Eden. This again correlates also with the beginning of the disorder in Heaven regarding all the celestial objects because they are EQUAL to angels. If it were not so, we wouldn't have any cosmic debris, meteorites or asteroids up there because none would ever collide if the stars were still obedient to their original orbits and orders. But to know more about this and understand, you would have to look into the book of Enoch which you obviously and unfortunately vehemently reject to do. So I can do nothing more than to point that fact out. MARANATHA!

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      11. Hi Annabel - I have read the book of Enoch a couple of times a couple of years ago and quite enjoyed it. The ‘vehemently reject’ portion is only in regards to the unscientific sun simulator theory.

        Ryan

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    7. I bet they already havs ai tech just like this

      https://youtu.be/X2BhLUFoIxY

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    8. Interesting that you are looking at this again. I had a dream I woke up to yesterday morning.
      There were two mountains and two large men standing on them with a white cord between them. A voice said pulling the cord would trigger 2 avalanches. Then a clearly saw a digital time of 3:33. I woke up and it was a little after 6 am. Not sure what this means... maybe war on 2 fronts?
      But G#333 is to look again attentively, to behold and consider again.
      Blessings!

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      1. Sheila, were they holding the cord at opposite ends like tug of war or was it between them such that they would each grab the same end to pull it?

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      2. Between them like they would pull up on it at the same time.

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      3. That 220 lb boulder that missed the praying woman.... 220 lbs converts to 100kgs....

        Strongs H100, rush/bulrush used for cord or rope....

        look at Isaiah 9:13-15 and at 19:15 for its use.

        Not sure how it fits, just making the connection.

        POSSIBLE INTERPRETATION OF YOUR DREAM:

        Pulling the cord is lifting us out. We are the white cord? That will start the avalanche. I'm not sure about the two large men and mountains yet. The 333 is interesting because according to one source it means transition. We are in the transition of dispensations. It is also half of 666. If we are as close as we think, we are nearly halfway to the beast system.

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      4. Sheila... a friend just recently texted me a video with the title....SPIRITUAL AVALANCHE (Urgent Warning)! I have not had a chance to watch it yet, but he said it is the most powerful sermon he has ever heard. The speaker is Steve Hill. Here is the link... check it out!
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jxVTUIn0D0

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      5. TY, Brad. I watched part of it on a little break today and will try to catch more of it tomorrow. My feeling about that dream was that the 2 large men were angelic in nature (not sure what type) and that the avalanches were coinciding events. The 2 mountains were big and rocky and the ends of the white cord were buried in the mountains with the middle length of the cord exposed at the feet of the 2 men and it seemed to be what was holding the rocks in place. The voice indicated that when they reached down and pulled the cord up, dual events would be triggered.
        A strange dream, but I knew it had to mean something ending with the clear digital time of 3:33, a number in the Strong’s that says to “look again attentively at, behold, consider”. Then I saw the topic of this thread and just thought it maybe it could be confirmation re the question of whether or not these 2 events of Rev. 12:4,9 occur simultaneously. This casting out will surely be like avalanches of evil falling upon this earth and perhaps the white cord could indicate the removal of the Restrainer as it was the key to releasing the falling rocks. As they come down, we go up?
        It is a dream, but it definitely made me think we need to be looking carefully and prayerfully at these passages again, so TY, Brother and Maranatha!!!

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      6. TY, Miguel. That was something about that falling rock and the meaning there. I’m going to try and study out those Isaiah verses tomorrow. Blessings, Brother:-)

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      7. @Sheila dear sister your "two men with a cord" somehow recall Ezekiel chapter 9 (but these were 7 altogether) or Zechariah chapter 2 to me, in any case angels who are somewhat either measuring or withholding with a cord. Just my 2 cents...

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      8. PS: a "dual event" would be very simply be 1) the rapture and 2) the post-rapture aftermath (6 seals opening) ever thought of that? If our transformation will be happening "in the twinkling of an eye" these 2 of events would happen almost simultaneously.

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      9. A very true possibility, Annabel. That’s the thing with dreams. Interpreting them can be very subjective but the ones you know are from the Lord are a gift to be pondered over imo. TY for your thoughts and blessings to you:-)

        I looked at the Bing Art this morning as we ride to work. It’s a watercolor of a rocky shore and talks about how with art, you can move mountains. Hmmm.
        Blessed a Day to All!

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      10. Sheila B., its taken a while for this imagery to sink in. Were the two figures facing each other, or both facing you? Also, what was the size relationship between the figures, the mountains and cord. Were they huge figures towering high or big figures dwarfed by large mountains? Mountains generally refer to entrenched systems, maybe challenges, principalities, strongholds, imaginings or manifest obstructions. Two of them could be an above/below picture or counterparts working in opposition (kingdom v kingdom) or in conjunction: two Castles on a chessboard. So, my last Q, here, is the 'feel' of the moment, was it scary, felt like a scene just before a real scene, transitional, were you just observing, about to interact? There is a reason it was given to you as a 'snapshot' and I am curious to unpack that also. Maranatha!

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      11. Hi Jimboni. Not scary at all and the feel was as an observer. The 2 mountains stood side by side and the 2 men stood equally side by side about halfway up the mountains with the exposed cord at their feet and both facing me. In proportion to the mountains the men were about 1/4 heightwise. I couldn’t see their feature details but their legs were bare and they wore Roman style skirts. That’s all I remember except for the 3:33 time. Thanks for asking and Blessings, Brother!

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      12. @Sheila - remember the "two mountains" of blessing and curse in the OT (Gerizim and Ebal)?
        ( Deuteronomy 11:29 + the tribes of Israel and Judah separated on them Deuteronomy 27:12-13 ) Sometimes mountains also represent high government institutions like e.g. in Psalm 121:1 Just another idea to complete that picture which can always be multilayered with God. Have a blessed day with your hubby not sweating too much... (going around peak 110-115F here this week ughh... not moving... not baking or cooking anything, just cold meals...) Much love, sister!

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      13. TY Annabel. Kinda weird toothat last 2 days we had to quit early and both days and by the time we got the truck loaded and started leaving, I picked up my phone and it was 3:33 on the nose. Well today is 7/26 so with some childlike optimism, I’ll just say it’s a good day for the Harpazo:-D
        Maranatha!

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      14. Boy, I really get a witness on Annabel's consideration of Gerizim and Ebal. The Lord has shown me for the past 2 years we are in a period of CHOICE. He is giving another clear example of the difference between 2 systems. He has given the US and the world another chance to align themselves with those values which are consistent with His Word. The picture stays in my mind - Exodus 36:26. Notice what they are instructed to do and what they did. The LEVITES - the priests went through the camp and slew those who were not for the Lord. No, we are not to go around killing people, but it was a clear choice that had to be made and the results if you chose other than the Lord were death. This is exactly where we are now. The cord is about to be pulled and the separation will begin. The final result is the 2nd death for Unbelievers and 1st death for those who delay their decision, yet they will be saved, but by the sword. Blessings - Sherry

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    9. Imagine. The great red dragon is China. It's tail is North Korea. Nuclear fusion is the lifeblood of stars. The dragons tail casts 1/3 of the stars to earth. According to an internet source, as of 2016, China has 260 nuclear weapons. 1/3rd would be roughly 86.

      There are also biblical references to angels= stars= explosions. For ex. Rev. 10:1-3 could be referencing Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

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    10. ... also, 1/3 of North Korea's weapons would be a handful.

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    11. Very interesting all and time to go back and re-study AGAIN the chapter. My first spirit response in reading your post Brad was you are correct they are referring to the occurrence of the sign first pointing to the later event. I realize most here are resistant to the suggestions the Seals were opened just after the ascension - but hold your breath for a second and consider this. Seals 1-5 are already open and continuing in their "work" assigned by God throughout the Church Age. They will not "stop" or "go away" but increase in intensity to their culmination during Jacob's Trouble. Yes the false Christ will ride out, but so will a brand new presence of Holy Spirit with the 2 Witnesses and the 144,000, then war, famine, pestilence, earthquake. We've seen all these things throughout the age, so we can't just ignore them. But, if we consider them as not an either already happened or a futurist happening we come up with the same thing we see over and over again in scripture. It's not either/or its BOTH. Just like the man-child born is not Christ or the Church its BOTH. As Brad has pointed out in the article its not in the heavens or on the earth - It's BOTH! We'e seen the sign of the child being born, now we're waiting to see the event. Likewise, we'll see the sign of the Dragon being cast down, then we'll (or those remaining) will see the event. Just imho. Blessings - Sherry

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    12. I also wanted to throw up a comment on the downing of the Syrian jet over Israeli airspace today. We know the IDF is preparing to root HAMAS out of Gaza and destroy their launching capacity and tunnels again and it will be ugly & the world will pitch a fit. It must be done for they cannot allow HAMAS to burn Israel to the ground without responding. Also the link Annabel gave to Lion & Lamb Ministries is a must watch. I tried to comment on the previous thread and could not, so I'm putting it hear - it's the report for the 20th of July, 2018. He makes so much sense. The private deal with Putin & Trump was an agreement the US will stop screaming at Russia over Krimea if Russia/Syria stops screaming over the Golan. Netanyahu was there a day before. Assad hasn't signed off on it yet and that's why we saw the jet shot down - but if this comes to fruition its another piece in the puzzle. I'm really anxious to hear this Messianic Rabbi's thoughts on the shoot down. Blessings to all & interesting to consider this new topic Brad has introduced may, in fact, work hand in glove with the Syria jet being shot down? Who only knows except the Lord God Almighty! Blessings - Sherry

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      1. Sister sherry do tou have a link to that lion lamb ministries ?

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      2. Thanks for providing that link mksmith because I was just going to go back and copy and paste it ... A clickable link is the way to go! ☺️

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      3. How do we know if there was a secret deal, and if so, what is in it? Wouldn't it be secret?

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      4. Janet we don't know. We speculate based on the timing of Netanyahu's visit/vs Trump and Putin's summit. We also speculate based on what Russia wants vs what Israel & US want. At this point, surely no one can consider they spent over 2 hours talking about election meddling and we presume Krimea and Syria had to be at the top of the list as well as N. Korea. If you look at the video Mark linked above, which Annabel brought to our attention last week, the speaker is very persuasive they have information this is what occurred. I've not watched him before so I can't say how or if his previous speculations or reports have been correct, but its the first thing that clicked in my Spirit about Helsinki and what was really going on. Think about why the Elites and Deep State have been pitching such a fit. If they can bring an end to the controversy over Krimea and the Golan while N. Korea is tamping down, that guts the Globalist' fear mongering of war. All they have remaining to threaten us with is Iran and there seems to be a coalition forming to support the sanctions since China has said they will honor them. That received little notice, but it is a huge deal. Will Iran shut down the Strait of Hormuz? Possibly, but if they do it is signing their own death warrant because they depend upon it for both imports and exports. Strange, strange bedfellows right now and inching closer to peace, which could be the instigating factor for a blow-out. We shall see and God's Perfect Will is going to be accomplished - in Jesus Mighty Name I Pray - Blessings - Sherry

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      5. Sherry, thanks for replying to Janet. I wanted to say something but wasn't sure what. The video at Lion Lamb with the Rabbi in Oklahoma was good. First time I heard him too. His major selling point is that he reads and watches the Middle East events and the countries involved and so on and so he makes an educated guess that he feels Congress should also know but are clueless and act surprised and don't know what they are saying, basically.

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    13. Job explains how satan does still have access into heaven. I believe these stars(fallen angels) will literally fall after the child is born(rapture of true church). Stars are not millions of light years away and what they tell us. Thats what people need to understand, they are within the firmament of heaven as Genesis chapter 1 explains. When these get finally cast out during this war in heaven, they will actually fall to the earth. This is during the tribulation. The days of Noah are more than just people rebelling against Yah, there were giants in those days, and after.

      Lord Jesus Christ is coming soon though!

      God bless you all.

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      1. Dear friend, I agree with you on Job 1:7 which is the exact reason that Heaven (i.e. the spiritual realm of Revelation 1, 4 and 5 or Ezekiel 1-2) must be "cleansed" from Satans presence once the "saints are marching in" you know. In the end, heaven and earth have to be made anew also because Satan has spoiled everything below and above. Every trace and leftover from sin and rebellion will cease.

        As for the firmament topic, perhaps it might be helpful for you to look behind the clickable link I suggested in my post above. The angels = stars are just switching dimensions, shapeshifting through portals into our 3D-realm. (That doesn't mean earth is flat though and I don't want to start a debate on that here.) Again, I have learned from the book of Enoch everything I have to know from God to not being forced to speculate around. MARANATHA, blessings to you! :-)

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    14. Oh my oh my!!! THE BALM OF GILEAD - A FULL RECOVERY - ‘Who Took Me Out of the Cave?’
      Family, I know many or most of you know Luis Vega and treasure his deep journeys into our Lord's Word. He just posted over at FIVE DOVES about his near death recently from a horrific medical 'event' from which no one would be expected to survive or ever be functional again and yet HE IS, Maranatha! His post is a testimony and a witness, Alla D I implore you to find and read it. As a survivor, myself, of similar circumstances where every professional said I would also be vegetative for life, if I lived, I SAY PRAISE HIM! (http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/july2018/luisv722.htm)

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      1. Jimboni, thank U for sharing that - Absolutely amazing. And we know there are MANY more miracles to come. I believe as Lu said he was left alive to go in the rapture, among other reasons. And the premonition of Paul to pray for Lu.. Gave me chills just reading.
        MARANATHA DONNA N

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      2. Jimboni - that was a great testimony ... And, now we can pray for his continued recovery ... So, he will have many more prayers to the throne room of God!

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      3. TY, Jimboni for sharing about Lu. I think about him often as his words have always been so inspiring and have always been glad to see him post here. So grateful for this wonderful testimony of not only our Lord’s powerful love for him, but his deep love of our Lord in return.
        Speedy Recovery, Brother Lu and Maranatha!!!

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      4. Dear Revelation 12 Daily Family,
        THANK YOU Jimboni and others for mentioning me and your prayers. Yes, it was close for me. How has your summer been? I am so grateful for Fellowship in Jesus as we truly are a ‘Living Corporate Body’ made up of Living Stones. I am grateful for those I don’t even know but have online fellowship with. In my last email from my Doctor, who was away and now reviewed my charts she stated in her 1st line, ’I am shocked’. Yeah, it’s the story of my life.

        Yes, even my sarcasm is being restored. Anyway, I am doing well, getting stronger each day. My last Doctor’s appointment is on the 31st. By the way things are looking, I should get the ‘All Clear’ to start the new semester at my school. However, there are some minor but perplexing issues still to monitor, one being why my body may be attacking my pancreas.
        You can see a picture of me about 2 days after I got out of the hospital from this link of the same post from 5 Doves. http://www.postscripts.org/ps-news-316.html

        All, including myself are amazed the LORD did a ‘quick work’ in me, both physically and spiritually and I cannot help but think that perhaps so too will the LORD do a similar work in the Corporate Body just before the Rapture. I sense it is that close.

        Blessings and health to you all,
        Lu
        Psalm 27

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      5. ...and I understand you're going to be Varsity Track, tryouts next week? Break a leg! Maranatha!

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      6. Oh brother Luis, how awesome our God is! TY so much for taking the time needed for recovery to give such a great testimony for the brethren and write it down so eloquently! HALLELUJAH! Your story today was the subject of our morning coffee talk and I told my hsb how I already had pondered what might have happened not only to Lazarus but also to the young man of Nain and Jairus' daughter when being resurrected but being ordained to again die physically some time later. It would have been imbearable to them if they would have remembered their "23 minutes in hell / 4 days in heaven" (you know what I mean... I refer to all these NDE reports coming out lately) if not God would have NOT let them remember this time. Such NDE would also flatout contradict Luke 16:31 . So I also know from your report that this surely was Gods own miracle on your body in the flesh and not just some crazy healing event being copied by Satan (he does such things too).

        Just yesterday btw our 20yo son felt very sick suddenly with strong vertigo and told me what if he had to die now. I told him first get sth to eat as his qualm would result from not having eaten and drunk enough all day in the heat and take a cool rest but then told him similar to yours that I had seen all 3 of us raptured in a dream some years back and so I was sure he wouldn't die now... He's much better today. :-)

        Praying for your getting all well soon with full recovery and may you also still stand the California heatwave as we also suffer in Europe now (Sweden, Greece extreme wildfires, up to 30C=86F around the Arctic circle). May your personal miracle have been causing many in the hospital and in your entourage yet turn to their creator in awe so that they might receive eternal life through faith in Jesus Christ before we depart! Praise God eternally, MARANATHA!

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      7. Lu, what an amazing testimony! I am so grateful to Jesus that you are still with us and with your family. God knows the battle you were in and He clearly sent his angels to minister to you and rescue you...You have been such a HUGE blessing to me and so many others and I am grateful to call you a brother and friend. As for you laying there under that cold water which ended up saving your life... oh the many spiritual connections that makes in my mind....
        John 7:38.... Whoever believes in me...out of his heart will flow rivers of living water...
        Isaiah 43:2.... when you pass through the waters I will be with you...
        Eph 5:25-26.... that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word
        Isaiah 30:20....And though the Lord give you the bread of adversity and the water of affliction, yet your Teacher will not hide himself anymore, but your eyes shall see your Teacher.

        God Bless you Lu... praise the Lord for your soon to be complete and full recovery!

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      8. Brother Lu, I have had you on my mind for a few weeks. I have prayed for you in that time. I had a sense of this; I am sure of it. I am not sure whether I responded as fully as the Spirit was prompting, but I will definitely be more sensitive to it in the future. I will continue to pray for you brother.

        Scotty Clarke gets credit a lot in these and other forums for discovering the September 23 sign. I know you are not in this for the credit (and I don't think he is either). But you are the first person documented in modern times to make the association with the celestial alignment and the description in Revelation 12. Right? I believe the Wikipedia article gives you the credit, having discovered it in 2008 ten years in advance. Scotty probably deserves the credit for making the video about it that went viral.

        I am not saying any of this to flatter or lift up any man, for my servitude is toward Christ only. I feel prompted by the Holy Spirit to say this. I feel I am supposed to point out your credibility as a servant of the Lord. I feel you were attacked Spiritually because Satan sees you as a serious threat. You were instrumental in the awakening we have all experienced. Now you will be given more. You have specific gifts that the Lord will use and that Satan is angry about. I will continue to lift you and all of these brothers and sisters up in prayer.

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      9. The moment you believe you have an inkling of the power and wonder of our Precious Savior, He does another even more glorious thing. Lou I am so thrilled to know of your recovery and, most importantly, the glory being given to The Glorious One! A part of my studies this year have focused on Miracles in Scripture. Why some and not all? The bottom line I came to which gave me peace in my Spirit is the Miracles served a two-fold purpose. Yes, Jesus cared about every person and still does. However, not all were healed. If the purpose of Miracles had been only for healing, He could simply have said the words, "Everyone Be Healed". But, that's not how it worked nor how it works today. Miracles are a sign. They were a sign then and they are still a sign. Miracles are a testimony to WHO and WHAT JESUS WAS and IS. I am the same, yesterday today and forever. Hebrews 13:8. So with all Glory and Honor given to the Healer of us all, we must now ask the question - Why Now and Why You? Does He love you more? Certainly not, BUT you have access to an audience to proclaim His Glory and you have proven yourself faithful in the past to Raise Up Christ and not Self. I believe this is the primary reason. Secondly, I am drawn - as I have been over the past week - to focus on the Blood Issue. Having had bleeding ulcers I can assure you they are one of the most common reasons for death in an ER. An ER physician hates ore than anything to encounter bleeding ulcers because they can turn really deadly, really quickly. Br. Patrick Winfrey just did a message on the importance of the Blood and, as Christians, we are well aware that only the Precious Blood of Jesus could have paid the price for our sin. As we draw nearer to "the event", how predictable of Satan to attack blood. For an affirmation, scroll down just below this comment and look at Sheila's request for prayer for an unchurched family and their daughter Tracey who had to have blood transfusions, which opened their hearts to Sheila for ministry and a request for Prayer for Healing from the Body. We are the Body AND THE BLOOD of Jesus and there is nothing more hated by Satan than Christ's blood. Can we say he is attacking Christ' blood through us since our flesh has not been "restored" at this point. I don't know. Is it a spiritual application of a physical reality? Is it the flailing of an angry fallen angel who would do anything to take back the crucifixion which set us free? Is ha'Satan pointing out the obvious - our blood is not yet redeemed although our Spirit is? If so, as usual, his attempt is resulting in the greater Glory being given to The Glorious One. My own bleeding ulcer and the aftermath, which was almost death, was the beginning of my own awakening of my slumber in "the church" and my separation from the True Blood and Heart of Him who created and saved me. When I came out of that Spiritual Coma and, by His Grace, through off the drugs they saddled me with which almost killed me - I have never returned to Spiritual Slumber again. Only now, only this morning, through your testimony is He showing me what happened to me and why. Satan hates those who have and will stand up for Jesus and how very like his sick, twisted, demented yet divine mind to attempt to shut us down via the mechanism of a weaker version of that which delivered us from his hand for eternity - the Blood! Much prayer and pondering to do on this - Awakened Anew! I continue to stand steadfastly with you for your Full Recovery to the Glory of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and the Blood that cannot be tainted, washed away or destroyed. The Blood of Jesus has already destroyed Satan, but we do not yet see the finality of what has been accomplished. Already . . . but not yet! Blessings - Sherry

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      10. Oh Sherry, so awesome to think about! TY for those words, Sister!!!

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      11. Yes, and needed to be heard in the body of Christ and the sacrifice Christ made.

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    15. So the sign points us to look up and the signs playing out in heaven could they be a leading act for us to see what is soon to come to earth ? Could things be heating up yes i know since rev 12 sign alot and i mean alot of thibgs prophetically has happened and its amazing but I am definately looking at Israel actions and trumps and putins and also this blood moon coming friday and we just had quakes at yellowstone and Hawaii could last and intensify for years as everything else is ramping up ! World leaders are all filled with drum beats of war it seems and the us is divided like never before and a huge battle is on the horizon ! Maranatha Jesus is coming very soon !

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      1. Gods warrior, amen. As I've said all along, if anyone should say things seem to have staled, simply ask, 'oh really? Have you looked in on HI lately?' as the wrath from below pours forth unabated, laughing at the clock all the while, Maranatha!

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    16. SPOILER ALERT: THE FOLLOWING COMMENT IS NOT ABOUT SOCCER

      A week ago, I predicted the winner and the player who would bring the win in the croatia/england soccer game. I have proof of this, if anyone wants to see. About a half an hour before the win, I saw player number 17. I said he will finish this game. And he did.

      Why did I feel that I knew that? For many days, the number 17 had been in my face. It was in the news over and over. The Thai boys were in the cave for 17 days for instance. When I saw the player get in the game, I felt in my spirit it was another sign. It turned out I was right.

      This gets more interesting though: I then told my brother about my encounters with the number 17. That was two weeks ago. The subject was dropped then, but this morning, my brother sent me photos showing his recent flight seat number, a recent receipt, and the article about the death toll on the duck boat. All 17. The receipt was $17.17.

      I didn't think a whole lot about it until lunch time. I pulled up in a parking lot to get some lunch, stuck in the line at a drive through which was unusually long, putting my car right next to a car parked with its rear bumper next to my window. The license plate of that car said NMBR17!!! I have pictures and texts to prove this.

      I looked up the biblical meaning of the number 17 and the first site I read says, "overcoming the enemy" and "complete victory".

      Also, I need to shout out to Sherry G here: you were asking about John chapter 12 a while back... the number of fish caught is 153. This very special number is tightly connected to 17, very tightly connected. Some have suggested the catch of fish is a symbol of the completed work of the gospel.

      I feel the Lord is saying the work is complete and the dispensation is in transition. We are about to enter into our completed victory. AMEN! and Maranatha!

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      1. Miguel and family - the way back machine in my mind. Thank you for the reminder, although I can't forget because 153 continues to occur since the dream years ago. The distinct WORDS I heard in the dream were "Everything must be completed in the Spirit of 153". I'm still seeing the number and it is always linked in my mind to another dream where I was awakened to write down two words which I only knew from Scripture at the time - Orion and the Pleiades. This was before the Rev 12 revelation (at least for me, I'd have to check the date in my notebook) and caused me to begin looking at the astronomical implications. Oversimplified the ancients call the Pleiades the Seven Sisters (still do today) but their most common term has been dropped from our vocabulary - Flock of Doves. Orion is known as the Mighty Hunter, but its ancient reference was to The Shepherd. These are things I constantly watch because I know they are important, I just don't know why yet. I can speculate as we all can, but I have not been given any "final revelation on it" so I continue to watch. I believe the 17 you are seeing Miguel is another puzzle piece to the many we have already - the Full Catch, "complete victory", "The Flock" watched over by "The Shepherd". We are so loved and so blessed and God is so great in Mercy I am overwhelmed anew. Blessings - Sherry

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      2. Sherry Griffin, re-reading your post again a point arises which I wish to highlight. "Everything must be COMPLETED IN the Spirit of 153". speaks of a process and that process happening WITHIN the 153 dynamic. Consider this.

        As MANY FISH recently again laid out so well, the sum of every number from 1 to 17 equals 153. As the final number it makes sense that '17' would be ' complete victory' and the various points which someone tied together here or prior thread as well. So, my idea was that the PROCESS of adding the numbers could symbolically represent the working of details in these times. As each 'number' (event, theme, teaching, learning, ME ET set-up move, etc.) 'clicks' into place, picture a bead being moved from one side of a counting thread to the other, ...there's 13, ..., 14, ...slides another, ...15, ...

        Now, with THAT picture in mind, revisit "Everything must be COMPLETED IN the Spirit of 153" AND Miguel P's messages about '17' and one must ask, "Did you just hear our boarding call?"

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      3. Mathematically, 17 is the spirit of 153. So yes Jimboni, you are correct. And according to the source I found (ridingthebeast.com, I think) 17 means complete.

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      4. Another interesting source connects the passage in John 21 (I meant 21 above too where I mistakenly indicated John 12) to the passage in Ezekiel 47. I am not scholarly with the Bible like you all, so take a look and see if it reveals any more.

        BTW, today the news reported that 17 people had died in the Laos damn break.

        here is the link:

        https://torahportions.ffoz.org/disciples/john/what-is-the-meaning-of-the-153.html

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      5. Thank you all for adding to the puzzle pieces and continuing in faith. Is it coincidental I was finally able to see with the Spirit of the Living God the Fibonacci Spiral and the Signature of God in absolutely everything just 10 days ago? I've tried to understand it before, but it just flew beyond me but this time I could SEE IT! Grass, Flowers, Nautilus, Scrolls, Broccoli, the Crown on your head where the hair springs from, an umbilical cord and a fetus - It's all a Fibonacci Spiral. Galaxies have the same spiral. The keys on a piano - the cords are Prime Numbers which make up the Spiral - the Hurricane, the Typhoon (the Bible calls them whirlwinds) are Spirals. Our ears on the side of our head, the inner ear - Spirals, the Rams Horn - Music, Speech. Our DNA is a double Helix spiral. Once you see it you cannot unsee it. Now I understand more fully why Dan Matson and others are so invested in the charts of dates and the Phi Ratio - Phi Ratio is God's Signature 1:1.618 - the proportion of the Spiral as it expands - The Golden Ratio.

        One last point, The dream with 153 was long and very detailed. I remember everything being absolutely crystal clear to me as it was progressing. I understood how and why - and I recall I saw both BAD THINGS and GOOD THINGS - but the only specific thing I was allowed to remember immediately upon waking was the phrase, "EVERYTHING must be COMPLETED in the Spirit of 153." The point, one of so many, to me now is the precision with which everything is created by resonance (the voice, speech of our Savior) and held into place by that same reverberating sound corresponds to the Spiral. There are no coincidences, only God incidences and this completion we are seeing will be "by the numbers" precisely as it was laid out before the earth was ever formed. This gives me great assurance, great Peace and a Joy in the Song of the Lord in my Heart for all resonant from and through Him. I pray we are nearly home, but I trust the Hand of Him who created it all.

        Miguel, to your point about the connection of John 21 and Ezekiel 47. Ezekiel 47 is smack in the middle of the description of Ezekiel's Temple, which I believe is a temple shown to Ezekiel and already existing. The land described is the same as that in Number 34:2-12 and does not include the conquests of David or the Transjordan (Reuben, Gad & half-Manasseh and to the South the Edomite territory. Those points argue against a literal temple on earth, but speaks of a temple already in existence. They're never commanded to build anything and critical elements of the OT ritual furnishings are not named. This wades into the whole Sacrifices returning discussion which can't be correct, because Jesus was the final once and for all sacrifice. Believers are Sacred Space so we may occupy it, but not from an earthly standpoint thus it must be speaking of the Millennial Reign, the New Jerusalem & the Royal Priesthood - all of which are designed and existing in the eternal "realm". The River of Life - definitely Millennial in nature with a Nasi' - Prince who cannot be Messiah. Just random, late night thoughts. I hope that helps rather than confuses. Blessings - Sherry

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      6. Thank you Sherry for helping to unpack that a little more for me. I need to roll this all around in my mind some more and pray about it. I just have this gut feeling there is something to it all.... the number 153, and the number 17, the connections to fish and water throughout the Bible etc...

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    17. Notice when it was discovered ...
      Comet C/2017 S3 (PANSTARRS) will circle the Sun on August 17, 2018, and is predicted to brighten, possibly to naked eye visibility, as it gets closer, perhaps developing a visible tail as the solar winds increase. It will make its closest approach to the Earth on August 7, 2018, at a distance of 7 million miles. C/2017 S3 was discovered by the PanSTARRS survey team at Haleakala Telescope 1 on September 23, 2017. The Panoramic Survey Telescope and Rapid Response System, located at Haleakala Observatory, Hawaii, USA, consists of astronomical cameras, telescopes and a computing facility that is surveying the sky for moving or variable objects on a continual basis. This image was shot by me, remotely, early this morning, via the iTelescope.net 90 mm Takahashi wide field color imaging system at Siding Springs Observatory in NSW Australia, and processed on Nebulosity and Aurora HDR software.link below

      https://www.skyandtelescope.com/online-gallery/comet-c-2017-s3-panstarrs/

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    18. Thoughts on this link being relevant??

      https://rev12daily.blogspot.com/2018/06/13-of-stars-falling-video.html

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      1. Yes... I just recently watched that great video again. That meteor shower could fit if we get one this year similar to the meteor storms in the path. We get closest to the meteor on Sep 10th, then on Oct 8th we enter into the debris field. We shall see... Thanks for bring it up again Matthew! Maranatha.

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      2. Thanks Brad!..and Maranatha!

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    19. Fire in Greece - the news, officials call it a biblical disaster! Only way out was into the sea.

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      1. YEP. Not to mention Sweden... Up to 86F around the Arctic circle. We had a 110F yesterday in the "sun" in Germany.

        I'd like yet to see some footage from above in Greece, maybe some "strange" reason like the Cali-fires because arson was claimed as a cause in the news.

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      2. YEP again. Got proof from a zerohedge article starting Greece fires acting like a "flamethrower" and found this one in the comments: WORLD ON FIRE - Greece attacked with Direct Energy Weapons (DEW) Just that simple. Sad but true.

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    20. Forgot to say also Unsealed has a new posting:

      https://www.unsealed.org/2018/07/everywhere-sign.html?m=1

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    21. Oh, awesome Sheila. I was watching a segment on a challenge to sing songs by policemen in Texas I believe - singing karaoke ... One was really funny and I kept watching ... Then, the last one was "I can only imagine" and he was in a room/court setting and stood up and raised his arm up toward heaven! It was just too short (his vid) but good.

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    22. And, the heat - from Daily Crow:

      "Insane: 124.3 degrees F (51.3 Celsius) in Algeria is the hottest temperature ever recorded in Africa as the global heat wave continues. In the US – Rain or shine: Horrific heatwave blankets 40 million people in the Southwest and West Coast, while 32 million face flood risk on the East Coast. Worldwide – The summer the world caught fire: Stunning interactive map reveals how record temperatures are being recorded all over the globe. England has recorded highs of 33°C (91.94°F) this week, Sweden is basking in the hottest summer in over a century, while the mercury topped-out at an unseasonably warm 38°C (100°F) in parts of Southern California, and heat levels have soared to more than 46°C (115°F) in Saudi Arabia. In Japan, at least 65 people have died and a further 22,000 have been hospitalised with heat stroke as a result of sky-rocketing temperatures, which have reached record highs of 41.1°C (105°F) in the capital of Tokyo."

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      1. I know, Cathi! The heat globally is just off the charts. And did you hear about the sun going dark in Northern Siberia for 3 hours from 11 am until 2 pm. This time of year over there it’s daylight 24/7. The people were freaking out and calling it the work of the devil. So far there is no explanation for this phenomena. There is so much happening now that it’s impossible to keep up with all of the strange and disastrous events in every realm.
        The folks that we’re doing this job for have given me a a bit of a window to share my faith with them and last nite, they had a sudden medical emergency and their 42 yr old daughter Tracy is in critical condition. She had to have a complete blood transfusion and they are very frightened they could lose her. Would you lift them up in prayer
        that Jesus will be with this family to His Glory. Judy, Jonesy and Tracy. They are unchurched and unsure, but very kind people and they do want prayer. I really appreciate it, Sister, and re little Scarlet, please let us know how she does.
        Blessings and
        Maranatha SOON!

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      2. Sheila, I did hear about the 3-hr darkness.
        I prayed for Tracy and said the same thing you wrote as I read on! So, I will keep them in prayer. What kind things you said about them.

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      3. I just watched a video on the 3 hiurs of darkness in russia Siberia they are saying something is definately not right with one large section of the sky going dark !!!

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      4. Prayers coming sister Sheila

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      5. The Siberia darkness was very probably nothing else than one of the (regionally installed) sun simulators being shut down for a reason, perhaps technical failure from the "red dragon". Remember the recent AO advertisement clip? Well, that's it. Nothing miraculous. We might get to watch this a lot more now before we depart.

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      6. Hi Sheila, Miguel and Loving Jesus. I just learned that little Scarlet's (my brother's grandchild) surgery is tomorrow at 7:30 a.m.(Friday). It is a 3-4 hour operation and she will be in ICU for at least the first 24 hours. Her parents are already with her at the hospital for pre-op. Thank you for your prayers for her.

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      7. Thanks so much for letting us know, Cathi. I was just praying for her and wondering how she was doing today. Moving the prayers forward to continue for surgery tomorrow! Keep us posted. Blessings Sherry

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      8. Thank you, Sherry. I should have followed up on this earlier. I talked briefly to my sister-in-law and I also told her that my online community was praying for Scarlet.

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      9. Praying for little Scarlet, Cathi. Home tomorrow so I can be in the Word and be in prayer at the same time as her surgery. Blessings to you and your family!

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      10. Oh, thank you Sheila! That is so wonderful of you and very giving and showing me God's love.

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    23. John hellar on minute to midnight yt channle great show !

      https://youtu.be/7Dzwpev66Ow

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    24. Greece blazing burning down 700 to 1000 flee to the sea ! Link below

      https://youtu.be/nEGX81Zebc4

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      1. Jeramiah, I already had a strange gut feeling when watching the news about Greece yesterday as looking at some drone footage that didn't look normal... And now please have a look how these pictures resemble the Cali-Fires from last year: GREEK WILDFIRES STRUCK LIKE A FLAMETHROWER (click!) The headline alone makes you go Hmmm... And then the molten aluminium and glass from the cars around ring a bell? Directed Laser Energy Weapons?

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      2. Wow that just crazy and sad but true ! Its also crazy how they satan is putting the fake sun bulbs in our face with the oa commercials ! We are in some dark dark days with things happening so fast sister Annabel thanks fr sharing that link !

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    25. Has anyone else seen this new add very crazy link below

      https://youtu.be/EPhjz0ma2LY

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      1. Yes Jeremiah , saw this .. before, did you look at the comments? How much more will we see? Lord w as tch over your children

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      2. Amen Veebee just noe seen it !

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      3. Jeff P noticed it first and commented... Now very fitting with the 3hr darkness in Siberia! LOL :-D

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    26. OK, Fine. I take a week off work to tune out, drop out, pray, play and do as little else as possible and the last dozen posts tell me surf's UP! I scanned the article on the Syrian Jet downing by Israel and nothing leapt out from the details. This Greece thing? Clueless. Greece fire in the kitchen 'bout burned the house down once, 'nother story. 3-Hr's Darkness and heat? Well, I'm convinced the cosmos is actually in a terrarium in Jesus' study and this month's science project has Nibiru passing thru with excessive additional radiation amping the heat and other phenom. BTW, here in Colo area, very odd weather last few days. Cloudy, not hot at all like you tell of. Hot earlier today, maybe upper 80's? The storm hit, was sure it could spin a 'nado. None did that I know of but was like Wizard of Oz weather, violent storm, whipping wind, while, at the same time, over here, we get sunlight blasting through high white clouds with blue sky behind, wow. Sunlight beaming in the sliding glass doors in the back while Gilligan's Island storm is out front. I tried getting the Annabel weather update but my Ham was on the fritz, Maranatha!

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    27. Found a link of an article with video of people in greece fleaing into the sea from fire

      https://abcnews.go.com/International/ive-life-man-fled-sea-escape-greece-fires/story?id=56778851

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    28. I just got excited. Did I just get a message from God?
      Does anyone else have a picture at the end of the last article's posts? (Post titled Jewish Nation State Bill Becomes Law - Unsealed)
      I went there to the very last post and saw a big circle that covered sherry's post and mine. Hers is blocked(picture over lays it) but mine is showing on bottom half like pic is see through or as if my post was put on top. Any way, what got me excited is that the picture is angel wings with a bright light as the body. It's in the sky but close up. It made me think God is saying the rapture is about to happen.
      Can y'all go see if any of y'all have that picture?
      I've never seen a picture posted in the comments except for emojis. It was odd. And that it's smack dab on the posts.

      Also, showing how close we are....Majority of Israelis back LGBT protests, new poll finds

      And this is so sad. ELEVEN boys of the Wild Boars football team who were rescued from a flooded cave in Northern Thailand will have their heads shaved today as they honour a promise made by their families to be ordained as Buddhist novices. ... Their act will honour former Thai Navy Seal Saman Kunan. They give credit to budda. Ugh!!! Those children are being taught wrong. They need to be giving God credit for saving them. I feel sorry for them and so many because they will be left behind. It's so sad.
      Just another sign of end times, so much of the world shuns God the Father, and Jesus His Son.
      The way Israel is loving the things that's an abomination to God, seems He will come quickly. Its strange that the law just passed says they will honor God yet the majority support evil against God.

      Anyway, I'm excited about that picture. I went to the article before that one and there's no picture at the end. Thought it might be something signifying post closed. But didn't have it.


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      1. Dear LJ, with regards to the Thai cave boys the whole story doesn't sit right with me, forgive me. I mean "12 boys" / "football" (just during the world chp in Russia / "cave" / "1 man dead" (sacrifice) / "Elon Musk pedophile insult" (which was the real odd news that triggered sth to me here) ... I have found an interesting video on the "FullSpectrumSurvival" channel, just watch, it makes you think if you're going to believe the next 'heartbreaking' story or at least give some thoughts to the official narrative as a Christian: The real reason for the Thailand cave rescue - Beware the changing narrative! (click!)

        Just shortly before getting saved in 2005, I had myself just wasted thousands of Euros to get a degree in Public Relations and News Media management in order to employ myself from before I gave this all up for Jesus to work as a waitress and cleaning woman. You know, I've literally learned how to fabricate such a story, like in the "Wag the dog" movie! And I paid a lot for to learn it. So I usually tend to doubt most news presented on the current MSM for a reason.

        Many might think I'm just heartless but I've got a degree how to play around with emotions and manipulate public opinion in my old life you know. That's why I stay pretty sober on the Thai boys as well. So yes I can very well relate to what you think about this. It was also lanced IMO to "promote Buddhism" or to lead people into the NWO uniform religion. There are also political reasons to it as these news were used to strenghten the Thai royalty behind. But such things will never appear on our MSM. Much love & blessings, MARANATHA!

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      2. Loving Jesus .. the circle is the art that Sherry chose as a blogger ... Like we have the "B" in a circle next to our names at the start of our comments.
        The big circle that cuts off the comments happens when we reach 200 or so and it will do this any blogger emblems that are using art - like for example Alla has a picture of herself.
        When that first happened I thought what a beautiful picture and why is it showing up ...

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      3. Yep, I don’t know why but when you see the “load more” at 200 comments, those personal icons cover the comments. Really strange.

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      4. LJ this has happened on my comments before and Sheila is right. The picture you see is my Avatar. Why it does it occassionally, we do not know. Brad and Gary have looked into it to try and help. When it occurs, it will not let my post go up without covering it with the Avatar. I was attempting to respond to Annabel to thank her for the link and tell her how I'd confused Lion & Lamb with Lamb & Lion and was looking in the wrong place on YouTube. The video she references above tells this man's opinion about the Russia/Israel/US "agreement" which is speculated. Nonetheless, I attempted with 3 different browsers to post under there and could not do it. I thought I'd deleted all the crazy stuff, but must have missed one. I can never reply using Safari, it usually works with Firefox and sometimes I have to go to Goggle Chrome. It is a mystery to us. Blessings - Sherry

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    29. Jimboni, I'm curious if you'd know of anything that might help my daughter. She got a virus last yr that messed up her vagus nerve. Now she makes a throat clearing noise uncontrollably all day long and her stomach hurts after eating. Everything hurts her. And she gets fast heart beat and chest pain from the malfunction of the nerve. It also caused so much pain in feet she couldn't walk. But a PT came and helped her get her feet desensitized. She am walk now. But the other areas are still in pain. So we need to get that nerve back to functioning right. You mentioned that Pycnogenol crosses the brain barrier so that got me thinking about this. I've researched so much on vagus nerve but found nothing that would help her. We like natural remidies.
      Since your last post, I saw that you are wise in the benefits of natural remedies, at least with the Pycnogenol, so I thought I'd see if you, or anyone reading this, might know of something. She's seen to so many doctors and had every test imaginable done. The medical drs can't help her

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      1. Lovin' Jesus, my head is an amazing trove of tidbits of data but yours is a new one to me. Annabel's link, below, sounds worthy of exploration. For general relief and wellbeing, the anti-inflammatory and literally dozens of secondary, system-enhancing benefits of Pycnogenol would have it being 1st on my go-to list. Most Pyc comes in 25-30 mg caps and 1/day, over time, will likely have significant and noticeable effects. However, as with any natural protocol, it is highly recommended that you make an exhaustive list of every singly little thing wrong now and then revisit that list monthly. Because natural methods are so gentle and subtle, often weeks go by, very significant change happened but did so so slowly that you end up feeling like 'nothing happened' when, in fact, quite the opposite is true.

        Beyond that, and I suspect you will have to go beyond the 'calming' effects of Pycnogenol, the next level of regeneratives will require glycogen support. Glyco-carbohydrates are a disruptive science reshaping the ENTIRE understanding of human biology (ala MIT report 10 Disruptive Technologies of the 21st century, 2000). More than a dozen GENETIC disorders are under clinical review and showing therapeutic improvement with Glycogen therapies for over 10 years now. HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars are being invested annually in this research, currently, by every major pharma company. There are ways to access this now, in the private market, but I would rather discuss that not on the boards. Maybe Brad can help us swap email addresses? Maranatha!

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    30. Dear sister I know you did only address brother Jimboni and probably you got all the info already here but yet did you try from the 'natural' ones behind this link? 32 ways to stimulate your vagus nerve and all you need to know about it

      Just leave out the Eastern and Catholic religion rites methods... I guess there's still plenty of ways left AFTER (!) having prayed about it and asked God for help first. Remember king Asa... Much love and I hope your daughter will get well soon! :-)

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    31. Cathi, thanks for explaining the circle with wings pic. I sure was hoping it was a sign from God. Lol.

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      1. Lovin' Jesus, I must say, when it first happened to me I was equally shocked, and your comment tickled me no end, Maranatha!

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    32. Annabelle, go, thanks for the link. Yea, I've looked into all the stimulation of the vagus nerve.
      Thanks though. And I food go ahead and check out the one you sent. Really appreciate it.

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      1. LJ , I am sorry to hear about your daughter I will pray for her. It will be interesting for you to look into the type of viral entityor bacterial cause. there is a diagnosis out there called transverse myelitis which is can be caused by a bacteria or a virus. This condition causes a slew of changes in the person's ability to walk Etc extremely painful . You can imagine and Physicians often use supplements and course time is the essential element for any type of inflammatory process . You might want to talk to your physician about supplements that are used for such a condition difficult to be able to test the vagus nerve because you're looking at an internal process with the diaphragm and cardiac as well. That's why the rapid heart rate. I will keep you in prayer.

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      2. My apologies I did not know if this was for Jimbo only or simply wanted others to chime in with some thoughts and that we'll pray God is able to carry us through these last times is every trial in Affliction. Praise God that we have conventional medicine as well as supplements to help us

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    33. Annabelle, wow, that's awful what they teach public relations, media. But I believe it. And I think you could be on to something about the story. Right away, they were talking about making a museum out of the cave to bring in money and they are making a movie.
      The media was telling a different story from what was told after they were all out.
      Maybe they really got stuck and they are using the incident to benefit their country and budda. Maybe it was all made up. I was engulfed in it. I couldn't sleep thinking of those boys. And the people helping. It's a shame if all I went through (prayers, sleepiness, worry, etc) was for nothing. And it just urks me that they are giving credit to a false god. I completely see your point and why.
      God bless you for giving up that career. I'm sure you could have made more money doing that then cleaning, waitress, but you did the honorable thing to God.

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      1. Dear sister, yes that was such a "Duh!" facepalm event back then... You know I usually so much hate it spending money in vain and I told the LORD 'now why didn't you call me earlier into the vineyard?' LOL Wasted my whole life so much. But again, better late than never! Praise Him for His mercy, HALLELUJAH! :-) Acts 19:19

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    34. Sherry, thanks for explaining. I love your picture. It was a blessing to me and maybe, just maybe, I was MEANT to see that. I sure do hope God used it as a message to me. I've been down lately about the world being so evil and I've just wanted the rapture to happen so much. For days my spirit had just been depressed. So I saw that pic and got excited.
      Maybe it wasn't random this time. Maybe it was to lift my spirit.

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      1. You may rest assured it was not random nor was it a coincidence. I can say that for 2 reasons - First and Most Importantly - To give you the lift you needed, when you needed, however He chose is the very definition of the Nature and Character of God. Secondly - Since it has occurred before, I carefully went in and deleted the comments - I must have tried a half dozen times attempting to thank Annabel for a link that was extraordinary for me and clearly of God. After all my careful deleting one was left - He left it for you so never doubt. He worked through a donkey and people who are far more evil than a donkey ever could be, so He can certainly work through a Computer, an Avatar and a Keyboard Jockey for the Lord! I just always thank Him for the mercy and the grace and the "wink" and pick myself up and dusty myself off and go on. He knows I need extra help most of the time and He is so faithful to give it! We so love having you as a special part of our special family. Your enthusiasm and pure heart shines through. He must be very pleased! Blessings - Sherry

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    35. Jimboni, wow, that's interesting. I'd like to know more. Thanks for all your help.

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    36. Family unsealed has a second brand new article i think you guys will want to check out maranatha ...

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    37. Is it bad that I feel less excited after seeing all these days just go by? I am still excited but it isn't the same as when I first found out in 2015. I know there have been more people waiting much longer than I but I can't stand being here anymore and watching all that's going on.

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      1. It's natural. Hang tightly to Christ. Talk to Him about how you feel and ask Him for help and encouragement. He will answer. We're close, just not certain how close. Could be today, could be two months, but just try to take this one day at a time. That is a very biblical principle. Maranatha! I'll pray for you.

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    38. Full course, I relate to your feelings. I have gotten my hopes up in 2015. We thought for sure that was it. Then other dates came and went. The rev 12 sign and Israel turning 70 were really big signs. It's a downer. But I'd say that it's the events in the world that being me down the most. When I was a kid, we walked the neighborhood, walked far to the pool, we walked to the store by ourselves. We were young too. But now days, I can't even let my kids in front yard by themselves. Have to watch them like a hawk every where we go because predictors work as teams to distract the parents while the other ones take the kids. The world is so far from God. Churches are promoting and accepting evil. They preach what tickles the ears. It's become a "show". They also have become political and more of a business then a body of Christ. There's so many corrupt leaders or wanna be leaders that are influencing the world too the negative instead of the positive. Child sex trafficing, rape, murder, hatred, people shooting others just because they got cut off in traffic or the neighbor was too loud or they got offended for what ever reason. People can't even date either, because of the creeps out there. There's nothing much that can be trusted now days. As Annabelle mentioned, even news can't be trusted. There's lots of news sites that were suppose to be telling the truth that I recently found out are not. They also are making up stories. People don't want to hear about Jesus and are criticizing and discriminating hard against Christians and getting away with it. People are getting fired because they are Christian. Getting refused service because they are republician, pro-life, anti-LGBT, trump supporters, etc. It's hard to live in this world. It's been like this for years but it's really gotten bad the last couple years.  The heat and freezing cold make it uncomfortable to live in.
      And sickness or health problems abound in Christians. Financial struggles, too. It's not all bad. There's good too. I'm just stating things that are worsening every day that make it hard to enjoy life. The devil is out to steal, kill, and destroy. But Jesus is our joy and the joy of the Lord is our strength. I've been down lately but I get by because I KNOW that Jesus is coming for us. I cry out to Him to come now. But I know that He has perfect timing. It's hard to wait. I totally understand your feelings. This community on rev 12 blog has helped to get through the days.
      We can pray for each other. 

      I think we all get down because we love God so much and it grieves us to see this world so evil. So far from what He intended it to be. Thank God, He has something better for us. And I'm so thankful we are so close to getting to paradise, joy unspeakable, no more tears, no sadness, no pain, no evil. I'm so so so thankful that's so close. Hang in there. Cry on our shoulders if you need to. 

      And what really helps, is to look at your blessings. Be thankful God is with you, protecting you and your family in this evil, crooked world. you have ac 😄, food, Shelter, health, money, family, friends, anything you can think of, big or small. Realize it's a blessing and praise God for it. Praising God in the midst of our struggles and disappoints really helps. 

      Try to find some good stories, testimonies, good deeds to soften the bad that's going on. Hope that helps. 

      I'll be praying for you. 

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      1. Full Course, I feel with you as well and concur to all above from LJ... If I read some excited comments that almost go like what Jesus warned His people from in Matthew 24:23 I kind of feel nothing at all but sort of numb. I hardly get any dreams too, last time was Pentecost but only "waiting" messages. Sometimes I wonder if there's sth wrong with me. I felt excited and anticipating about the Rev12-sign last year but not again since. Maybe that feeling will revive around the FoT again which I think is the latest appointed time for Jesus to get us. But in fact if He's delaying any further after October then I'm done. And not only from this crucial heat, chemtrailing and all the evil but from feeling completely nonsensical and obsolete. I got no more task, no more gospel to share, makes no sense at all to me. I don't want to be an unhappy bride then but I'm afraid I will be. Yesterday, I read some chapters through 2 Baruch and could quite well imagine how he felt. And yet I think he still lived in an environment being hardly so much polluted from what we have to endure. Chapter 23 is comforting though, when God speaks into his sorrow and pain. (click!) I cling to that and want to get more disappointed only after October but not before. Much love and blessings to you!

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      2. Annabel, I get dreams and lately more of them, praying about which ones to share and I feel the Lord speaking to me in what are ordinary things to others, but you have a gift with connecting the dots in Scripture and then expressing those connections in such a clear and concise manner that I find amazing. I can’t do that. I do believe as you indicated that the time of choice has reached the pinnacle of now or never and that’s how close we are. But even if it were to be longer than we can imagine at this time, He will provide the reason to keep going, to keep looking and I know that you know there is no jumping off point with our Lord—no backing up or throwing up of the hands. He’s not left us hanging with nothing to go on yet and He never will. He will feed us and nourish us along for as long as we need that. Your sticking it out strength has always been evident, Sister, so I’m not worried about you becoming an unhappy Bride! You’ll be right there on the frontline whenever that Door opens up to receive us Home!
        Maranatha!

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      3. I'll second that, Maranatha!

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    39. Flash flash flash flash listen to this awesome A Taste Of Heaven. Flash mob every praise Praise God. He is coming to take his children home let us hold on with fervency in prayer and everlasting hope https://youtu.be/DWN4IGYKNw0 maranths

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    40. Jason A yt chan biblical events and weather

      https://youtu.be/ru-4xIBo8cQ

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    41. I just cant stop thinking about the 3 hours of darkness in russia could this be a forerunner saying 3 days of darkness is coming soon or could it have been a sign of something evil and dark taking place in russia or somewbers on earth ??

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      1. Jeremiah, that might be but must not be. The pattern with Exodus from Egypt is the same applicable with the pattern of the people entering Canaan with Joshua after having long time wandered around in the desert (like we have been spending part of our lives in this evil world now). Anyways, please note what else happened during these "3 days of darkness" when additional information from the book of Jasher chapter 80 (click!) is being considered:

        It was during that time exact when God made all that part of the UNBELIEVING ISRAELITES DIE but unnoticed (!) from the Egyptians (i.e. the "world") in order to bury and LEAVE THEM BEHIND before crossing the Red Sea. Doesn't this recall the 10 virgin's parable to us? Same pattern, same sifting of His people BEFORE getting out. You will find the same pattern again in the judgement of the living survivors from the nations ("winepress") in Matthew 25 as none of the unbelievers or enemies of the holy people will enter the kingdom of Christ at that point when the new dispensation of 1,000 years reign starts. Every dispensation ends with a judgement of unbelievers but within the group of believers (or so-called) FIRST = 1 Peter 4:17 MARANATHA!

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    42. Veebee, thanks so much and it's ok for anyone to answer. I think I said in the post "for anyone reading this". I'd love all the help I can get. And I do appreciate it so much.
      We've seen specialists, spent 3 weeks in hospital, and many follow up visits to the GI dr. We've gone to several natural doctors as well. This is a mystery. She first got a bad cough. Then started that throat cleaning noise and stomach started hurting. She didn't get tested at that time because it was just a virus. But she was found to have a virus in her but they said that since it was not in the nasal cavity they wouldn't treat. That just baffled me. It was in her blood, but not in her nose. She was no longer sick with cold but still being effected by that virus. Her blood count kept going up showing a virus. Her GI gave several supplements and meds too, and we've tried so many things. But nothing has helped so far. When jimboni mentioned that stuff (don't recall name) I thought he might know of something that could help her. I want to try the stuff he mentioned for both of us. But also, of anyone knows of something else, I'm all ears.

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      1. LJ that sounds to me as if she might have got it by some vaccine perhaps? I mean how else did the virus enter the blood only? Or else an open wound... Anyways, we might only be able to cling on Gods promise to be physically transformed into new bodies soon. You know from the book of Jasher I have read how the Sodomites would hurt a person and then make it pay for the healing treatment again. That's the time of Lot also we live in. Have mercy on us, LORD, please!

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    43. Annabelle, maybe it wasn't such a waste after all. You're now able to use your knowledge for His kingdom to keep us alert to the TRUTH. Your wisdom has been very helpful to us, the body of Christ. And thanks so much for sharing. So what the devil meant for evil, God means for good and you've turned that evil around to use for God's glory. Praise God.!!!😄😄😄

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      1. Lovin' Jesus, How true, how true. LA Marzulli's testimony spring's to mind although I hadn't made the connection before. Many come into the light better able to guide others out of the darkness which they, themselves, just arrived from within, Maranatha!

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      2. LJ dear sister, thank you for your kind words. Indeed, His plans are so much better and His thoughts so much higher than ours! HALLELUJAH

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    44. Here’s a little news I just read from Blood Horse Daily: (condensed)
      After winning all 6 career starts, it was announced today that Justify will be retired from racing (due to a bad ankle)
      “What a way to go out” said jockey Mike Smith.
      “Never beaten, won the Triple Crown. He was a gift from God”.

      Well, I think we can all agree our feet are tired and although we have not been beaten, we too are so ready to enter that day of rest, where crowns await to lay at our Master’s precious feet. Now that is a gift from our God! And what a way to go out:-D
      Maranatha!

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      1. Sheila B., thank you so much for sharing that. We all get so excited and caught up in the typology and connections during the heat of the races but, after, the players leave the stage, and live on. It takes a steady eye to continue to glean food from this bit of the vine, sister, and you've spotted a detail concerning the 'finish' here which sure seems to get to the heart of the matter, all along, Maranatha!

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      2. TIME TO RETIRE FROM RACING, HUH?!?! Come LORD Jesus, hurry quick, MARANATHA!

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      3. Thinking of the verse that talks about heel..ankles.Justify )leaves the racing career.. Genesis
        3:15

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      4. Yes, VeeBee. Justify had gotten a bruised heel from running the Kentucky Derby when he broke Apollo’s 132 yr record and yet he remained unbeaten!

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      5. Quick thought which came to mind in reading Jimboni's response and I believe it is a great parallel. In the vineyards of Germany (ANNABEL) there is a practice of leaving the very last grapes on the vines until the freeze comes. These grapes are harvested after they are frozen on the vine and looking particularly pitiful, yet they make the sweetest of all wines. Its very special, very expensive and greatly prized. It's called Eiswein - Ice Wine. It is a far more concentrated and sweeter wine and is actually called a Dessert Wine. This occurs before fermentation and thus is unlike other dessert wines which can develop Botrytis bacteria. When the grapes are free of Botrytis they are said to COME CLEAN. "Only healthy grapes keep in shape until the opportunity arises for an ice wine harvest, which in extreme cases can happen after the New Year, on a Northern Hemisphere calendar." Blessings - Sherry

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      6. I thought of your foot comments yesterday because Rapture Watchers had a short video on Ephesians 6:11-16.
        In Ephesians 6:15 "and, as shoes for your feet, having put on the readiness given by the gospel of peace." Reading more on this, the passage is on warfare using the Roman armour ... Paul is sitting in jail ... They had hobnails on their boots to get a steady and firm stance. As we are to stand firm. Standing firm in the gospel of peace. As you have done Sheila for Judy, Jonesy and their daughter Tracy. Amen!

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      7. Thanks Cathi and everyone who prayed for Tracy. This morning she was stabilized, but still in induced coma. But they were so thankful for the prayers as they headed back for the hospital. Was able to encourage them further to look to Christ and put their faith in Him. So looking forward to His coming and the day when joy reigns and sorrows are not even a memory. Blessings All!

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    45. Left behind the original of 1 ,2 &3 they put the rapture right before or at the signing link full movie yt

      Part 1

      https://youtu.be/d-veeckZyAw

      Part2

      https://youtu.be/OhGsSS1IKjs

      Part 3

      https://youtu.be/3C-CSqzY7qo

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      1. Thank you Jeramiah, I loved this movie (esp. Part 1) although it doesn't fit right with 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 but that's a matter of storyboard obviously. Yet many have been confused about this FROM watching the movie and reading the book series of Tim LaHaye long ago so they still believe there's a group of professing Christians (foolish virgins) from the church age that might get a second chance.

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      2. Thank you sistef Annabel i love watching this show too!

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    46. Did anyone else know trump signed a waiver 6 month waiver delaying the embassy move on june 5th 2018 ???

      http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/247003

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      1. Yes, I did know that, but then the embassy was moved and today I was completely baffled by an article on Prophecy Update which stated Netanyahu is celebrating because "today is not only a day to celebrate the movement of the US Embassy to Jerusalem . . . " http://prophecyupdate.blogspot.com/2018/07/netanyahu-finally-vindicated.html

        I was completely baffled by the statement, but there must have been a delay from the opening to the "official" designation? Confused to Jeramiah! Blessings - Sherry

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    47. Last night I kept waking up hearing "Ephraim". Not audibly, but impressed in my mind, like I couldn't stop thinking of the word. I know its a name in the Bible, but that is about all I know.

      Anyone have an idea why that word was on my mind so heavily? Ephraim, Ephraim, Ephraim!

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      1.  Ephraim was the second son of Joseph and a grandson of Jacob. His name means “doubly fruitful,” because “God has made [Joseph] fruitful in the land of [his] suffering” (Genesis 41:52). When Ephraim was born to Joseph and Asenath (Joseph’s Egyptian wife), Joseph was a foreigner in Egypt, yet he had gained a high position in Pharaoh’s court.

        Ephraim was the younger brother of Manasseh. In Genesis 48:5, Jacob blessed Ephraim as an adopted son, saying to Joseph, “Now then, your two sons born to you in Egypt before I came to you here will be reckoned as mine; Ephraim and Manasseh will be mine, just as Reuben and Simeon are mine.”

        Later, as Jacob’s health was failing, Joseph brought Manasseh and Ephraim to him for a patriarchal blessing. Being the firstborn, Manasseh would normally have received the bigger blessing, but Jacob switched things up on purpose. As Joseph guided his two sons toward Jacob, he made sure Manasseh was on Jacob’s right side and Ephraim, the younger of the two sons, was on Jacob’s left (Genesis 48:13). But, as Jacob extended his hands, he crossed his arms so that his right hand was placed on Ephraim’s head. Joseph began to object, but his father assured him that he knew what he was doing (verses 17–19). In this way, Ephraim was given precedence over his older brother, Manasseh (Genesis 48:14).

        Descendants of Ephraim became known as the tribe of Ephraim, which is designated as one of the twelve tribes of Israel. They settled in central Canaan, just northwest of the Dead Sea. The tribe was bordered by Manasseh on the north and Dan and Benjamin on the south (Joshua 16; 19:50). Ephraim became the leading tribe of the northern kingdom (Joshua 17:15; Judges 3:27), and the capital, Samaria, was located in Ephraim’s territory. In fact, Scripture sometimes refers to Israel as simply “Ephraim,” due to the size of the tribe (e.g., Isaiah 11:13 and Jeremiah 31:6).

        The tribe of Ephraim was chastised for idolatry (Hosea 4:17) and their partnership with heathen nations (Hosea 12:1). The tribe of Ephraim was taken into captivity by the Assyrians in 722 BC when the northern kingdom of Israel was conquered. Even so, the Lord declared, “Is not Ephraim my dear son, the child in whom I delight? Though I often speak against him, I still remember him. Therefore my heart yearns for him; I have great compassion for him” (Jeremiah 31:20).

        After the Babylonian captivity, some of the descendants of Ephraim resettled in Jerusalem (1 Chronicles 9:3). Notable figures from the tribe of Ephraim include Joshua (Joshua 19:50); Samuel (1 Samuel 1:1); and Jeroboam I, the first king of the divided kingdom in the north (1 Kings 12:25

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      2. Miguel, Jeramiah has given you the absolute meat of it, but I wanted to add just another thought. Ephraim has become almost synonymous with the "Lost Tribes" in the Hebrew Roots and Messianic movement. Isaiah 11:13 is surely a cry from the heart of the Lord of His love and yearning for the division of the Northern Tribes and the Southern Tribes so they will again be reunited. IMHO this will occur during the Trib. Perhaps the cry you heard is yet another hint we are approaching that time when God's heart and focus is turning again to . . . JACOB! We all know what that means. Blessings - Sherry

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      3. I remember hearing about Ephraim ... In my notes from Ecrusymphony her video (Sheila first mentioned this site) and I watched a few of her videos. She has different viewpoints as I see it! Really. But, anyway ... She used Ephraim as being part of the U.S. and Israel with her context regarding war. She is seeing the seals as being opened I think since Christ ascended ... So, this is serious. I think this was the video on 40 weeks, signs and judgements from 6-30.

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      4. Sherry, what you said about the tribes returning hits me pretty hard and resonates. I feel like maybe I sensed the Holy Spirit calling Ephraim back to Israel? Why would I sense that though. My last name does have Jewish roots. Maybe I am of that tribe. LOL. Anyway, I do think it is an indicator of how close we are.

        I know we are all tired. Some of you have been watching for a long time. The exit is going to be spectacular and amazing; I know that. These are the last days for us. AMEN!

        Jeramiah, thank you for helping me understand Ephraim better. You are such a constant blessing.

        Cathi, I will check out the video. When you say, "so, this is serious" are you referring to my hearing/sensing "Ephraim"? It feels very serious. I am excited, very very very excited, because I know that I know that I know, we will be face to face with our Savior soon. Nothing excites me more. Nothing. Thank you for your constant care and excellent wisdom.

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      5. The thought springs to my mind of a typology of Christ-followers that Jacob intentionally bypassed the older brother to anoint the 2nd born. Are we not, ourselves, those 2nd-born, awaiting just that, now? Maranatha!

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      6. Amen Jimboni! We are exactly the "one taken out of due season" - not the one the world thinks of as the "first born" as we saw in so much typology of the Israelites. Most studies of the geographical movement of the tribes out of Israel in the diaspora leads to the belief that Britain, the US and Canada probably hold the greatest numbers of the "lost tribes". The problem I have with that designation is they are certainly not lost to God, but save for a very few people, the bloodline is so diffuse at this point it would be hard to tell without Genetic testing. I suspect, once we get home to our Father, we are going to learn amazing and surprising things about our history, our blood and our backgrounds in the world, the hidden things. Could it be that you are of the bloodline of Ephraim - certainly, most of us simply don't know. But, with the new Jewish State Bill there will be increased calls for Genetic testing (that's not perfect yet or even accepted in the rabbinical courts as proof) for now the government of Israel is mandated to "bring my people home"! Time is certainly shorter! Blessings - Sherry

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      7. Thank you family I have often wondered are we ephraim? Can any of us be from that bloodline ?

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      8. Miguel, a couple of other interesting connections with Ephraim are the battle in the wood or forest of Ephraim between The forces of King David and the rebel army of Absalom in 2Sam.18
        and the Gate of Ephraim in Neh.8 where it was the site for the feast of Tabernacles. Both of these are surely foreshadows of what’s ahead for Israel and the world in the near future. There will be a great slaughter, but in the end there will be great rejoicing as they are brought into a right relationship with our Lord and Savior.
        Blessings, Brother and TY for sharing with us!

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    48. All of us that are still here are all here for a reason our jobs arent finished not to work jobs to make money yes we must for the most part work and pay bills as all slaves on earth are stuck in this endless cycle with governments printing money from wood and everyone working till they are dead or well on their way to not be able to have time to do much other then suffer in long lines waiting for medications and food and then deciding do you pay your power bill or get medication or do you get food or pay a bill for a earthly home that means nothing as nothing material on earth really is ever yours as its all temporary but yet when our path on earth is finished when we have spread the gospel hopefully inspired others to come to Christ Jesus or helped others to not commit suicide or to walk away from that man or women thats beating them or to get help or any number of many things we do on our paths like making someone smile with kind words amen ! When our earthly path is finished hopefully we have had a good impact on someones life helped pass the gospel onto someones heart or helped in other ways as there are many ways and many in need of help everywhere i look sadness and evil abounds , yet we spill our blood sweet and tears and when we go home its truly sad how so many families not all but some fight over whats left behind as I have seen far too often sadly but we and others lead by example and believers true believers saved by faith who have that fire that light from Jesus shinning through our life we try to share that light the love Jesus Christ with as many as we can and I have had some who I witness too who seem broken and like they dont care they wont listen to me , we are being persecuted, our children are at risk prayer taken from our schools , then same sex marriage , now they can mark the birth certificate with an X and now they dont want kids to be labeled they dont want fathers to call sons words like champ or daughters princess and this is just scratching the surface aa churchs are now holding marriages for same sex and I am not judging them as we are to love all not to participate but love thy brother mother family or enemy , at what point will this entire world be swallowed up with evil lessons as families marriage has become a distant memory of a man and woman lasting till death do.us part now things are upside down! I pray for everyone in these dark dark times ....

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    49. I have been thinking about this chapter as well lately but in a slightly different context. I wonder about the assumption that is made/taught that when Lucifer fell and became Satan that 1/3 of the angels fell with him. Many people who state this position reference Revelation 12 as the evidence but if this is a future event, which I beleive it is, then Satan could not have already fallen with 1/3 of the angels back before or right after the 7 days of creation according to Revelation 12. We know that Satan fell when he sinned we just don't have a clear timeline in the Bible in my opinion. Even after the mention of the 1/3 of stars thrown to the earth, verse 9 just says his angels were thrown out with him. So maybe the 1/3 went back up for the war? Either way, a few scriptures I ponder with this are as follows:

      John 12:30-33 NKJV
      30 Jesus answered and said, “This voice did not come because of Me, but for your sake. 31 Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out. 32 And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all peoples to Myself.” 33 This He said, signifying by what death He would die.

      Luke 10:17-20 NKJV
      17 Then the seventy returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name.” 18 And He said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. 19 Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you. 20 Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven.”

      Matthew 11:12 NKJV
      12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force.

      Revelation 1:19 NKJV
      19 Write the things which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which will take place after this.

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      1. Matthew 11:12 has the word harpazo in it.... what do you make of that?

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    50. If it were not for harpazo being in verse 5 I would surely say that when Jesus died on the cross that the above scriptures from Matthew, Luke and John would apply and that is the fall mentioned here and Revelation 12:10 would make sense too because now Jesus between the cross and resurrection took the keys of sin and death (Rev 1:18), made a spectacle out of Satan (Col 2:13-15, 1 Peter 3:18-22) and is seated at the right hand of the Father on the throne (Mark 16:19 among others). I may need to review the paranthetical nature of Revelation, but interesting that you brought this up. Same Holy Spirit working in all of us to cause us to ponder such things. Praise God! I know I am not including some of the very interesting interpretations of symbolism for this chapter. I am only looking at one level in this scripture which I believe has multiple layers to it. Any thoughts? God bless all of you brothers and sisters in Christ! Looking forward to your feedback!


      1 Peter 3:18-22 NKJV
      18 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, 19 by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison, 20 who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water. 21 There is also an antitype which now saves us—baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22 who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, angels and authorities and powers having been made subject to Him.

      Revelation 1:18 NKJV
      18 I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death.

      Colossians 2:13-15 NKJV
      13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, 14 having wiped out the [i]handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. 15 Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.

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    51. Skywatch news media yt chabble something big haooening link below

      https://youtu.be/en9s89Z6qi4

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      1. Excellent video brother. The first three minutes left me a little breathless.

        Mars is redder, closer and aligning in a way that it has not in 60000 years, or shall we say ever.

        That should get our attention.

        My research uncovered this: Mars has two moons. They are called: Phobos and Deimos. Translation PANIC and TERROR!!!

        It will be in the constellation Capricornus meaning "horned goat". It is located in the part of the sky called the sea or water. Its brightest star is named Deneb algedi meaning TAIL of the goat.

        Another way to consider the word TAIL, since we are trying to understand "the TAIL of the dragon" which sweeps a third of the stars out of the sky, is it is the part AFTER... So instead of looking for a physical trait, we look for a more abstract interpretation....

        Notice that the day AFTER Mars and the lunar eclipse appear, there is a meteor shower on july 28. Will this be the third of stars falling to earth? I don't know. Just trying to put the pieces together.

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      2. Wow Miguel - your chaos and terror comment is right on! In fact Deimos is not just terror but it’s the god of Terror. Reallllly interesting!!

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      3. Miguel, that gave me chills. I was out looking the past few nights and Mars looked like a fireball up there. It was unbelievable in intensity even to the naked eye.

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    52. Hi! I'm a new commenter here! (tho' I've tried often and my posts just disappear...I believe it had to do w/ using safari!) I've been reading here and over at unsealed for over a year, since I found them. I appreciate the work you do at on this site as well as the work done by all of you commenters. I feel like I know you all a little since I've been reading so long, tho' you don't know me a bit! HA! I'm a fellow watcher and sibling in Christ. From New England, homeschool mom of 6, youngest 5 oldest 15, married to my high school sweetheart (he's a Christ-lover also and is warming up quite a bit to all my watching and sharing with him. Praise the Lord, he's starting to see what I'm saying. I know his mind must be on safety and work all day as he's a self employed arborist, but now he likes to know what I've found out as "the latest", no more crazy wifey :-) ) We're part of a small church that totally preaches TRUTH/ scripture and loves the Lord's appearing (tho' many are afraid to talk about it with others, if you bring it up they're glad! My only real "hobby" or fun, my business, really, is studying scripture and watching! Now you've got an idea about me. I love how at this site and over at unsealed how everyone is encouraged to share, but only in a Christ like way, no discouraging words... I am glad to have a place where I can be read and share what I see the Lord doing, where people won't see me as crazy. :-)

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      1. Little Sister, wow, what a treat of a testimony, so GLAD you are here and spoke up! There are likely many others with similar stories lurking, surely. Lovely family and it sounds like Our Lord has you ensconced as an encouragement to all of us who remember when times were, for us, more like you describe as you are now enjoying, Maranatha!

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      2. Thank you for the kind welcome, Jimboni!

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      3. Thank you Little Sister for your post! It's just great that our family is growing! Soon we will all meet together with the Lord in the air, and this is His blessing now! Blessings to you and all your family, and to all our Family! Maranatha!

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      4. Amen Little Sister. Lovely to have you. Maranatha!

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      5. Amen thank you little sister !

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      6. Hey Little Sister! So glad to hear from you and TY for such heartwarming words! We all can use every encouraging word from every part of the Body of Christ. Bless you and yours so much:-))

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    53. Hey Family a prayer request specifically for my sister and her family and also a coworker who are without power for an undetermined amount of time due to power lines being damaged by a very large fire near Idyllwild, CA. It has been extremely hot here and though they have a small generator it is not enough to power the A/C. Many people are affected in the area so please lift all up in prayer
      Thank you !
      http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-fire-california-20180726-story.html

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      1. They are in my prayers sister!

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      2. Yes praying All for your sister and her family, your co-worker and the Idyllwild area.

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      3. Praying too. Thank you for sharing.

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      4. Prayers up🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

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    54. Many fish new video

      https://youtu.be/69fvMW4Zyng

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    55. There's a new Unsealed, by Gary, The Lawless Law-Keepers, very interesting! It's every day now! Maranatha!

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      1. Thanks, Alla. I don't always check when my data is slow ... They take a while to get on board.

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    56. Wow catch the imagery in this article.

      Furnace Friday

      Those entering ‘Lords’ cricket ground not required to wear their jackets for the first time in history (c.f. Believers entering the Lords chambers having to be clothed...)

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12096342

      Ryan

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      1. That was an interesting article to read, Ryan. It was spell-binding as they went from one crisis to another - because of the heat!
        They had to remove some queues causing a 5 1/2 hour delay resulting in cancelling 1,000s of day/overnight tickets - calling this "Furnace Friday" because of air conditioning crashing.
        Barbecues were banned after 9:00 pm in the parks (people gathering to watch the blood moon) because of possible sparks lit on the parched grass (showing a pic that looked like sand and not grass).
        Non-emergency surgeries cancelled. Too many coming in etc with dehydration and such. Nursing staff felt dizzy etc.

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      2. Thank you so much! They are able to run the pump to their well and some fans… so much comfort knowing
        brothers and sisters are praying... love you all

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      3. It is scary ... Iness without power for two-four hours on one of the hottest days - in the 90's because a power line burst right on the front lawn and across the driveway ...

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    57. So ritz bit then fish crackers and now today hungrey man microwave dinners ehats up with all these sillemenela recalls wow

      https://youtu.be/nsZNL2v7kjA

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      1. There was also Taco Bell salsa con queso (possible botulism).

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    58. These events have changed history
      Jason A yt chan

      https://youtu.be/IP-vAYGT-iA

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    59. God please watch over my family my brothers and sisters here and across the world in these dark dark days Father you know who is in need as we all are suffering in these dsrk end times amen !

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    60. Barry Scarborough yt chan

      https://youtu.be/uv2w_osn1d0

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      1. Gods Warrior, Barry is showing the Jason A video he did. I believe you mentioned Jason's vid above.

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      2. Yes sister Cathi i just realized that lol whats the link to the article from ryan on the cancelations ?

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    Colossians 3:2-4

    Set your minds on things that are above, not on things that are on earth. For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ who is your life appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.

    1 Peter 2:9

    But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.

    Philippians 3:20-21

    But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power that enables him even to subject all things to himself.